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Great article - sad story.

Comment by Dan — January 10, 2008 @ 10:40AM

End of the story kinda harsh don't you think? He may have been as you say just another dead dope dealer but he still has many many family & friends that love & miss Anthony & Olivia, besides that whatever he may or may not have been no one deserves to to die that way.

Comment by Steph — January 10, 2008 @ 11:56AM

Truly harsh, as if their poor families haven't been through enough!! Where's your compassion, o- I forgot it went out the window when you saw an opportunity to make a name for yourself, hell- your not any different than Tony; "hungry"...you know how it feels don't you, to be greedy for a good story at any cost, just remember that you will be judged by the same measure you judge others...

Comment by T — January 10, 2008 @ 01:09PM

Im sure there has got to be a rule book for Drug Dealers. One of the rules should be Do Not Bring Your Clients into Your Home. (Risking the life of your loved ones)

Comment by Lovely Latina — January 10, 2008 @ 01:32PM

Im sure there has got to be a rule book for Drug Dealers. One of the rules should be Do Not Bring Your Clients into Your Home. (Risking the life of your loved ones)

Comment by Lovely Latina — January 10, 2008 @ 01:32PM

Harsh? WTF? You've got to be kidding. This guy got his and it's just a shame that he didn't shoot back and save all of the taxpayers a great deal of money. What about all of the addicts out there ruining their lives and the lives of their families while this clown and his ilk wander the streets with bulging pockets full of cash?

Comment by Andy S. — January 10, 2008 @ 01:45PM

lovely latina; nothing lovely about your ignorance...how 'bout encouraging our raza/our young brown brothers, that life doesn't have to this way???Let's not let Tony's death be in vain, he was a good person that saw an easy way-that doesn't justify his choices. Let's send our raza to school, heck working at McDonald's beats always lookin' over your shoulder for the cops, or your enemies trying to get into your pockets!!!Think about your familia's that your leaving behind to pick up the pieces...we are a strong people!!!

Comment by T — January 10, 2008 @ 02:08PM

I'm forced to agree with the previous comments. I found this story to be extremely interesting and informative. I saw those billboards and never knew the back story or what actually happened with the case.

That being said, I find the last paragraph deeply disturbing. You project a dangerous concept that its "okay" that these two individuals were murdered. I fail to see why after writing a story based solely on factual evidence, you felt the need to add your own personal view. I fail to see what benefit to the story your views add. The only reason I can fathom is that you intentionally wished to inflict pain and suffering on the families of the victims.

If this had been a random murder of two individuals and no drugs were involved, it would be a tragedy. According to you, since there were drugs involved, they deserved their fate. My personal view is that you are not in a proper position to judge what people do and do not deserve.

Comment by Wayne — January 10, 2008 @ 02:10PM

I do think the ending is harsh, he had a family, and friends regardless of what he did. And so did she. So to almost critisize her family for not commenting after the trial, who cares, let them grieve for their loved ones as anyone would want to when they lose someone. and as for the guy commenting about he should have shot back and saved the tax payers money, that is stupid. Sorry but I never see my taxes go down when a person dies instead of goes to jail, do you? To the guy who wrote this, I'm sorry if you're unhappy because you're writing for a newspaper that's free, and you're pay probably isn't that great. I can see from your attitude and poor reporting skills, that maybe you ended up there for a reason, dont give up, maybe someday you'll help people write Singles Ads online or something.

Comment by Amanda — January 10, 2008 @ 02:14PM

Your article was well written and puts a different perspective on the lives of these two main people. Although I am sure all parents, friends, relatives would say that their deceased loved ones were "loving", "generous", "kind" and "good hearted", at one point, though, did their relatives and friends begin to condone their behavior. On the one hand you have a person who is selling drugs and contributing to the degradation of society and on the other you have individuals (family and friends, including Ms. Raya) who were benefiting from his riches. How many people closed their eyes to this behavior and accepted it because he was "such a nice guy".

Comment by Campbell, S. — January 10, 2008 @ 02:18PM

Why is it that reading the white corporate media rags (like the Pitch and the KC Star) are like not reading the news at all? In fact, it's probably even a step backwards from reading their stale crap. Honestly, the Pitch makes me want to look at my own stool sample, pretend I have amnesia, and then take a guess at what I had for dinner the night before because basically that's about how on-top-of-it the corporate Pitch is. Mexicans (if anyone would ever pay attention to them) had this story literally years ago. For chrissake, it's utterly laughable that the Pitch is actually attempting to report this as "news" even though the information is so old, so stale, and so common knowledge to local Latinos that some of the recent immigrants that heard the real story when it was first gossiped in Spanish (even as it escaped the eye of print media) have now learned English already and are probably on their way to writing dissertations in criminal justice. Meanwhile the Pitch just now got HALF the story.

PS-Not that I'm a trumpet for tonyskansascity.com, but you have to admit that he got this story years ahead of you and has since already put it to rest. It's sort of bizarre that even though he's just one blogger with intense skill and you guys are part of an entire media conglomerate, he still bested you on this one.

Comment by D — January 10, 2008 @ 02:46PM

TONY & OLIVIA both knew the risk of the Game they were in. I'm sure they both loved spending the money and sporting the cars, jewelry & clothes and all the lavish things that come with being involved in the Game they were in. Tony was warned about the 2 males that killed him. Tony did not heed to the warning. He got greedy.
They knew the risk of the GAME!!!!!!!!!! And they took that risk.

Comment by Anita M. — January 10, 2008 @ 02:54PM

Wow. Truly compassionate, to end the story like that. Just another dope dealer. Not a human being, whose past and circumstances you know absolutely nothing about, not a person with a family already in the throes of grief and pain. Just another dope dealer. That is the most inhuman thing I think I've ever read in the Pitch, and that's really a monumental statement. You are no better than them, you are a judgemental, self-righteous jackass who has no business writing for anything or anyone other than those looking for entertainment while defacating. I didn't even know these people, I have no particular opinion about them one way or another, but they were PEOPLE. Fellow human beings, who may not have made the right choices in everything they did and who certainly were involved in a dangerous lifestyle, but who at least (per your story), gave something back to the world, despite their mistakes. How do you think the family feels when they read hateful and contemptuous things like that? They aren't dealing with enough already? Imagine their shock and how foolish and crushed they were already to find out that their departed had been involved in this...and then they have to read things like this. And trust me, they do. I guarantee they search the internet for the names and read every line over and over and relive their pain and shock and grief every time. What's the point of deepening that pain? Do the loved ones that survived them deserve this from you? You, sir are no better than these dope dealers.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Comment by Josie Clark — January 10, 2008 @ 03:31PM

Dear "T":

You are right, working at McDonalds will keep the police from chasing you but bring the bill collectors after you. Unfortunately, these issues are more complex than what a menial paying job can answer. If only every "Brown brother" had an opportunity to education.

Comment by L — January 10, 2008 @ 05:17PM

Dear "T":

You are right, working at McDonalds will keep the police from chasing you but bring the bill collectors after you. Unfortunately, these issues are more complex than what a menial paying job can answer. If only every "Brown brother" had an opportunity to education.

Comment by L — January 10, 2008 @ 05:17PM

I too had seen these billboards everywhere. They were indeed caught up in the drug dealing, as evidenced by his prior record, the large quantities sold and also the drugs later found in their home. We hear about the problems with drugs in our society every day, but little about the stories behind the sellers and users. They obviously were very loved by family- I heard about this case for years. It would've been interesting to inform the readers about their real lives and what leads people to sell drugs.

Comment by Alicia — January 10, 2008 @ 05:38PM

Well somehow I knew this message board would blow up with comments. I'm going to do my best NOT to be disrespectful BUT to writer of this article, the purpose was? How could you be so harsh to two peope you didn't even know. Everyday, good people make bad decisions, thats called being a grown up!!! I don't know what the purpose was of writing this article. No one deserves to be murdered, no matter what! Regardless of the mistakes made, these two individuals were loved by MANNNNNNNNY! Call them what you want, most of it sounds like ignorance on your part. I have never liked the Pitch, I ONLY picked it up because of this article. Never will I pick it up again. I really would be interested in hearing your reasoning for doing this article. Haven't the families been thru enough? And is this the end? Are you done?

Can we let these families move on now?

Comment by K — January 10, 2008 @ 08:25PM

I just went to tonyskansascity.com, NOW THAT WAS ARTICLES WORTH READING. He told the truth, or as much as he knew it, but yet was compassionate to what actually happened to Tony and Olivia. And to the families! And he's right, we have to help in some way, to put a stop to the drug activity!

Comment by K — January 10, 2008 @ 08:40PM

What a sad story all the way around. And there are the what ifs. What if she would have run out the door when she hear the first shot. What if Rios had not done the last deal. What if Rios would have taken the hint that Shock Incarceration gave him. What if, what if.

You know we all see these stories on the news at night. They are two, three minutes long some time. Other times they get just a few sentences, no more. With most you never learn the real story of what really happened, the details, the background. Maybe, in a way, that is good too. With this sort of thing there are no winners...only losers. And I have great pity for all of the families involved.

Comment by justwalkingby — January 10, 2008 @ 09:45PM

I would like to ask ANITA M a question!

How long have you been so cold and heartless?!?!!? Shame on you for trying to act like God!

Comment by K — January 11, 2008 @ 08:08AM

Dear K,

To answer your question, I am not cold and heartless but very loving and compassionate. The truth hurts doesn't it. I am only speaking the truth and I can promise you I am not the only one who is thinking the same thing. Your comment on the other hand had NO Originality to it. You sounded just like everyone elses. Maybe you could put more thought into what your saying so you don't sound like a repeat of all the other comments. Olivia knew exactly what her man was involved in. She was okay with her man feeding into the addictions of others. She was okay with spending all that money with no conscience of lavishing herself with material things. Right? She chose to take the risk of gambling with her life. When your in the Drug World anyone with common sense knows your putting your life in DANGER. Trust me I am not match for God and never would I try to act like Him. They should fear the wrath of God and the consequences they will have to pay for their life style. Trust me they would have much rather took the harsh comments then to have to stand before the Almighty God. Anit M.

Comment by Anita M. — January 11, 2008 @ 10:35AM

"They should fear the wrath of God and the consequences they will have to pay for their life style."

Ooohhhh. . . God had plotted their murder. Is that what your trying to say?

Comment by u — January 11, 2008 @ 10:55AM

IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT OLIVIA HAD A CAREER OF HER OWN = WHICH MEANS MONEY OF HER OWN. IT SOUNDS LIKE SHE WAS A VERY INTELLIGENT WOMAN, WHO FELL IN LOVE WITH THE WRONG KIND OF PERSON. ITS KINDA FUNNY HOW PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO JUDGE OTHERS. EVERYONE NEEDS TO TAKE A LOOK AROUND AT THEIR OWN LIFES BEFORE THEY TALK ABOUT OTHERS.
SO HE WAS A DRUG DEALER, WE KNOW THAT, BUT HES NOT HERE TO DEFEND HIMSELF.SO LET HIM AND HIS FAMILY REST AND MOVE ON!

Comment by reader — January 11, 2008 @ 11:03AM

Yes I do agree the ending was harsh, I think thier families have gone through enough where that ending was unnecessary. Justin Kendell is more worried about the Pitch's ratings than the Families suffering. No matter who did what the main thing she loved him and found a good person in him, she did have her own career going for herself and he loved her. AND NO ONE deserves this. I dont think there is any wrong in loving someone. Some of these comments are just out of ignorance. There is not one human walking this earth that is perfect or comes from a perfect family, there is no such thing. So like someone else left a comment "who gives any one us the right to cast the first stone." I am glad these killers now aren't living thier lavish lives and can not do this to any other family.
I pray for thier families, that they can find closure and peace now but know there will always be an emptiness inside of them.

Comment by Marina — January 11, 2008 @ 12:06PM

Yes I do agree the ending was harsh, I think thier families have gone through enough where that ending was unnecessary. Justin Kendell is more worried about the Pitch's ratings than the Families suffering. No matter who did what the main thing she loved him and found a good person in him, she did have her own career going for herself and he loved her. AND NO ONE deserves this. I dont think there is any wrong in loving someone. Some of these comments are just out of ignorance. There is not one human walking this earth that is perfect or comes from a perfect family, there is no such thing. So like someone else left a comment "who gives any one us the right to cast the first stone." I am glad these killers now aren't living thier lavish lives and can not do this to any other family.
I pray for thier families, that they can find closure and peace now but know there will always be an emptiness inside of them.

Comment by Marina — January 11, 2008 @ 12:06PM

Hello U
Here is some scriptures for you to read.

Hebrews 9:27 Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgement.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death.
Romans 6:12 Do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires.
So basically God gives us warning about choosing a sinful life and the consequences of it. Which leads to death. God allows us to make our own choices and decisions. He also warns us in many more scriptures to try the best and be blameless before God and not to be caught up in this world of sin.
I agree with Anita - she is the only one who had guts to say anything. We should all learn from this horrible tragedy.

Comment by Bible Reader — January 11, 2008 @ 12:08PM

Ok. The sin here is greed. God doesnt have a rating system trying your method of sin or how strongly youve sinned. Greed by selling drugs - Greed by gambling - Greed by stealing or taking more than you need to get by. A sin is a sin. So if you can honestly say there has never been a time in your life where you have given in to the temptation of greed then you are in good standing there. But, that gives you no right to JUDGE. If this were somebody you knew or cared for would you still be agreeing with her comments? Would it be you saying, Yes, she got this one right. I would say not.

Comment by u — January 11, 2008 @ 12:36PM

Exquisite writing once again by the Pitch. Hopefully, stories such as these, which have made the Pitch "The Pitch" over the years, can become as abundant as they once were. Nonetheless, great reporting.

Comment by levi — January 11, 2008 @ 12:59PM

I can't belive what I'm reading here. Some of you people have no idea who Tony & Olivia were. So for you to cast judgement is asinine. I went to high school with Liv. She was a good person who loved deeply. So what she was with a man who sold drugs. Does that give the right for others to kill for what they(Tony & Liv) had? I know there are consequences for living the way they did but death. I dont think so. And to be quoting bible verses come on now. Their familes have been thru enough. I wish this story was never written. Not everyone needed to know their business.All this story did is re-open some healing wounds for their families. I pray that God give them strength,wisdom, & serenity.

Comment by SHELLEY SHEPHERD-HERNANDEZ — January 11, 2008 @ 01:02PM

WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

Anita - I see you don't have much education, your english is embarrassing!! I think people here have made it clear that your comments really are irrelevant. Ignorance is often times ignored.

And did you even know Olivia & Tony? Or are you just evil by nature? And judgemental, and stereo-typical, shall I go on because trust me, I will!

Spend more time in english class, instead of judging. Its nice to know that you have NEVERRRRRRRRRRRR sinned. Hmmmm....imagine that.

To "U", thanks for the great words and very kind words.

Comment by K — January 11, 2008 @ 01:03PM

THANK YOU SHELLEY S HERNANDEZ-Its nice to hear from someone who actually knew them! Anita M and Bible Reader really need to hook up and lived on HATRED street together.

Something tells me that Anita M is a "nobody" with "no facts". I-G-N-O-R-A-N-T!

Comment by K — January 11, 2008 @ 01:11PM

Tony Bothello of tonyskansascity.com is a dumb fat pathetic loser wanna be who lives in the basement of his whore, loser of a mom, rita valenciano. anyone who thinks he has an "intense" skill...probably just got through f*cking him up the @ss

Comment by lalo — January 11, 2008 @ 01:34PM

Tony Bothello of tonyskansascity.com is a dumb fat pathetic loser wanna be who lives in the basement of his whore, loser of a mom, rita valenciano. anyone who thinks he has an "intense" skill...probably just got through f*cking him up the @ss..

As for the writer of this article, I am glad of 2 things:

1.I am glad I went to trial everyday with the rest of my family so I could know what the f@ck you look like. I am sure I will see you out.
2. I am glad you got up and moved to the murderers side of the courtroom and sat with them. You obviously felt more comfortable, most welcomed and where you belonged.
see you around.

Comment by mer — January 11, 2008 @ 01:39PM

Tony Bothello of tonyskansascity.com is a dumb fat pathetic loser wanna be who lives in the basement of his whore, loser of a mom, rita valenciano. anyone who thinks he has an "intense" skill...probably just got through f*cking him up the @ss..

As for the writer of this article, I am glad of 2 things:

1.I am glad I went to trial everyday with the rest of my family so I could know what the f@ck you look like. I am sure I will see you out.
2. I am glad you got up and moved to the murderers side of the courtroom and sat with them. You obviously felt more comfortable, most welcomed and where you belonged.
see you around.

Comment by M. — January 11, 2008 @ 01:39PM

Ok, two serious questions!

1) Why wasn't Tony's picture shown in the article Justin? Because he was just another dead dope dealer?

2) People really want to hear an explanation as to WHY you wrote this article. Don't you think we deserve that?

Comment by k — January 11, 2008 @ 01:51PM

you were quick to put people's pics in here that didnt really have anything to do with the murder but you left our yours and Jonni Curry, the girl you spoke of. Why leave her and yourself out? you are a coward

Comment by n — January 11, 2008 @ 02:08PM

"K"
Putting me down doesn't escape the FACT that the end result of their life style is usually prison or death. I am in no way saying that their untimely death was right nor warranted but Expected. And, I did know Tony and Olivia. They were nice people. They were all those "flowery" words people use. And if you knew them and were aware of what they were doing, why didn't you say something? Do people really think that her job or income payed for her education? I am only saying what everyone has been thinking. Shame on YOU for being just as IGNORANT!!!
I have a right to my own opinion and obviously you can't handle it. Shows your maturity level. I still love you though. Sounds good I think I will take you up on some english classes.
Hugs and Kisses to you K - Bye Bye I'm sure we will be staying in touch.

Comment by Anita M. — January 11, 2008 @ 02:33PM

I'm curious as to why this story was written as well. The case has been tried and closed. So why write the story and open wounds for their family & freinds? Some are just strating to heal with the people finally being caught and justice being served. So why write this story? And why did you leave out Tony's pic? He's not just another dead dope dealer. He's a son, brother, a uncle, a nephew, and a grandson. Because he chose to come up the only way he knew you can't slander his name. Not on my watch. I'll say this. No one here is with out sin. Unless you can walk with the devil for forty days and nights not giving into his temptations, you shouldn't be condeming others and how they lived their days here. Some us come from the ghetto. And a chance to make some fast,non taxed money it's kind hard not to fall into that trap. Alot of us would take that chance and if you say you wouldnt your most likely lying to save face. So I'll leave it at this. People do what they gotta do to survive. And some people are just monsters that have no concinces(however you spell it) and take innocent lives. Maybe to some people Tony & Liv aren't innocent but who are you to judge. They were good people who didn't cause trouble, didnt kill,steal. They lived life. They live just as any of us. Maybe they didnt make the right choice but death was not the price to pay.

Comment by Shelley — January 11, 2008 @ 02:35PM

I'm curious as to why this story was written as well. The case has been tried and closed. So why write the story and open wounds for their family & freinds? Some are just strating to heal with the people finally being caught and justice being served. So why write this story? And why did you leave out Tony's pic? He's not just another dead dope dealer. He's a son, brother, a uncle, a nephew, and a grandson. Because he chose to come up the only way he knew you can't slander his name. Not on my watch. I'll say this. No one here is with out sin. Unless you can walk with the devil for forty days and nights not giving into his temptations, you shouldn't be condeming others and how they lived their days here. Some us come from the ghetto. And a chance to make some fast,non taxed money it's kind hard not to fall into that trap. Alot of us would take that chance and if you say you wouldnt your most likely lying to save face. So I'll leave it at this. People do what they gotta do to survive. And some people are just monsters that have no concinces(however you spell it) and take innocent lives. Maybe to some people Tony & Liv aren't innocent but who are you to judge. They were good people who didn't cause trouble, didnt kill,steal. They lived life. They live just as any of us. Maybe they didnt make the right choice but death was not the price to pay.

Comment by Shelley — January 11, 2008 @ 02:35PM

To Lalo, Mer and M

Come on, did we really have to go there? The debate so far was sincere, with people who really thought they had things to say...but then you took it there?

I'm sorry, I just don't support your behavior. That saddens me.

Comment by Concerned — January 11, 2008 @ 02:52PM

Anita M-YOU'RE AN ASS! I am done addressing your stupidity.

When it comes to Olivia Raya-There are two words for YOU! SHUUUUUUUT UP!

Comment by K — January 11, 2008 @ 03:15PM

very sad but a chilling reminder of what your grandmother told you...lie down with dogs you get up with flees. It also shows however that even a drug dealer and his enabling girlfriend are people, human beings with families, aspirations and could actually be good people who would do anything for you outside of their drug dealing.

I get the point of the last sentence. First because of the way they appeared at the beginning the community had more sypmathy because they feared it could happen to them or their kids. Now the public has filed it away as something that only happens to people in that lifestyle eventhough the families are still hurting. Eventhough there are lessons to teach from this. No one will now because they SEE Rios as just a dead dope dealer.

Comment by j — January 11, 2008 @ 03:21PM

To the writer...man if you were looking to ruffle feathers...job well done. I

know that you journalists look to do this to draw as much attention to your name as

possible. Thats the only way to get ahead in your "GAME." Do the dirtiest thing

possible on insticnt to get to the next pay level. Your level of ethics is not much

different is it? The really sad thing is that I know you are loving these comments and

the attention. It makes you think that your story had some sort of power. Don't give

yourself that much credit. You are dealing with Mexican_Americans here and we do not

hesitate to let our voices be heard when you strike a nerve in our community. That's

something you don't realize...WE STICK TOGETHER...no matter what someone may or may

not be doing to make their money. You have no right to comment on a lifestyle or

community that you have not experienced nor endured. What I think is funny is people

like you that grew up in suburbia and want to judge the Mexican dope dealers in

the "inner city." Not everyone grows up with the same oppurtunities nor under the same

circumstances, so untill you have walked the same steps in the same shoes as the next

man, you have no right to judge that man nor profit or gain form doing so!

Comment by AM — January 11, 2008 @ 04:01PM

OhhhhhhhhhhhhMG! Anita M, you sound as bitter and ignorant as JUSTIN?!?!! Are you his wife?!?!? LOL!!!!

Cause like, I'm totally, like sure that we'll be, like, speaking soon, like, totally love you! Ohhhhhh maybe you're one of those MEXICAN women, WHO TOTALLY, LIKE THINK, THEY'RE LIKE A WHITE GIRL!!!! Cuz, you like, totally, like talk, like one!

OMG! I think, I am like so right. Bye-Bye for now Chica~!

PS Justin, will you EVER address what you started?!?!?!?

Comment by Very annoyed — January 11, 2008 @ 04:01PM

My dearest K,

Why are you done responding to me now? You were on a role girl. I was having fun with irritating you. WooooooooW! SHUT UP IS all you got? Obviously you didn't know Olivia very well. People are very complex. You only knew about her what she wanted you to know.
I told you we would stay in touch. Talk to you soon. Very soon i'm sure.
I'm off to the mall to do some shopping. When im out tonight I'll have a drink for you because you seem very stressed.

Comment by Anita — January 11, 2008 @ 04:03PM

NOW THAT IS WHAT I AM TALKIN' ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AM-you said it with style and with class. WHAT you wrote is the GOSPEL TRUTH! You could not have said it any better.

Congrats!

Comment by Happy Girl! — January 11, 2008 @ 04:05PM

Dear Very Annoyed,

Bitter? NO not at all. I'm very happy and blessed. Did I forget to mention a very beautiful hispanic as well. I wasn't born in Mexico so no i'm not mexican.
No hard feelings though. Like I said gotta go shopping for a cute outfit. Gotta look good tonight. I will have a drink for you too very annoyed cause it sounds like you need to take the edge off. Oh by the way very annoyed - I take the white girl comment as a compliment. Bye! Off to have some fun tonight.
Bye Bye - I will talk with you soon.

Comment by Anita — January 11, 2008 @ 04:17PM

I wrote the story because it hadn't been written before. This was a huge story in Kansas City for a long time with many unanswered questions. The families wanted answers. So did the public. The facts of this case finally came out at the trial. Only then did we find out the horrible truths. It's not pretty. I can't begin to imagine how heart wrenching it must have been for the family members to hear. But the trial was public. The best I can hope for is this is a cautionary tale to others. No one should die the way Anthony Rios and Olivia Raya did. But maybe their story will be a wake up call for others living the same lifestyle.

Let me clear up a few comments from above. I sat on the defense's side of the courtroom because a woman with the Raya-Rios families asked me to move so the families could sit together. We didn't use Anthony Rios' photo because we didn't have one; the families weren't talking to me, and the Kansas City Police Department nor the Associated Press had a picture of Rios. I also didn't have a photo of Jonni Curry. Finally, we didn't post my picture because we never post our pictures with stories we write.

Also, j., you nailed the meaning of the ending.

Comment by Justin Kendall — January 11, 2008 @ 04:19PM

To Anita~
K. might be done responding to you because you're a complete fool. You didnt know Olivia or Tony or you wouldnt be talking about them in the manner that you are. Stop trying to ruffle peoples feathers talking about something other people care about that you obviously have no idea about. Have your drink. But, dont forget to not get behind the wheel or you'll be breaking the law too.

Comment by Shelley — January 11, 2008 @ 04:24PM

SHELLY! You go girl! She is a fool! So stupid, like we really believed her!!! Thats so funny, I am so glad you spoke up! And she took the white girl thing as a compliment? She is sooooooooooooo stupid! LOL! She didn't know Olivia and Tony, and if she did, and she believed what she was saying, she'd have a last name!!! Run Jane Run!!!! LOL!!!!!

Have a good weekend, Shelly!

Comment by K — January 11, 2008 @ 04:35PM

This story was written exactly how it played out in court, all the writer had to do was SHOW UP, TAKE NOTES and type it out for his story. No creativity, no investigation, no work and certainly NO THOUGHT PROCESS. This murder happened 5 years ago and the pitch has contacted the parents and families on a regular basis trying to get the SCOOP and ALL YOUR WRITER DID WAS basically type up THE TRANSCRIPTS FROM THE TRIAL and THEN TAKE A CHEAP SHOT AT TONY RIOS. CJ (the pitch's editor) the next time you go to the deli, you owe Mrs Raya an apology.

Comment by M-Dog — January 11, 2008 @ 04:38PM

Dang CONCERNED! sorry to make you sad...I apologize.
BUT lighten up girl ! its the weekend!

Comment by mmerlalo — January 11, 2008 @ 04:51PM

Shelly and K:

The point has gotten away with the back and forth comments between us.... I did know Olivia and Tony. We both knew them in different ways. They presented to you one way and to me another. That does not make you wrong nor does it make me wrong. This article was written to expose a different truth. A horrible truth that you obviously don't like people to comment about. But, that is the thing with freedom of speech, it allows for all to comment. Call me what you will. Continue to believe only one side of this "coin", so-to-speak. Your anger should be directed at the choices that these two individuals made. They may still be alive today. And, if I am not mistaken, weren't they both "educated". And if growing up in such hard circumstances were to blame than what do you have to say to all those individuals who were able to "rise above" their situations and make good choices. There are no winners. Good Luck to both of you. I am done....

To the journalist: Thank you for being the only person brave enough to expose a different side.

Comment by Anita — January 11, 2008 @ 05:02PM

"They were nice people. They were all those "flowery" words people use. And if you knew them and were aware of what they were doing, why didn't you say something? Do people really think that her job or income payed for her education? I am only saying what everyone has been thinking. Shame on YOU for being just as IGNORANT!!!", Anita.

Shame on who, you just said you knew them too. Maybe proof read this stuff before you submit it. And, obviously not everyone has been thinking it. Your only supporter dropped out after my first response to her. I just ask that you think about what ou are saying and what you are trying to accomplish by doing so.

Comment by u — January 11, 2008 @ 05:04PM

To Justin~
I understand you were doing your job. And yes the trial was open to the public. But did we all really need to know the manner in which these people died? and the ending to your article is what is upsetting. As I said Tony was more than just a dope dealer. And as far as Anita. I don't believe you knew Tony or Olivia. So I'll stop wasting my time with you.

Comment by Shelley — January 11, 2008 @ 05:07PM

Shelley
It’s a small point, but I never said Rios was “just another dead dope dealer.” I wrote, “He was another dead dope dealer.” I didn’t use the word “just.” From the reaction on here, he clearly was more than just a drug dealer.

Comment by Justin Kendall — January 11, 2008 @ 05:17PM

HEY! ANITA M! Arrrrogant ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS-aren't you supposed to be like, TOTALLY,SHOPPING? STOOOOOOOOOOP SPEAKING! SERIOUSLY, STOP SPEAKING!

Justin, I think you did write what you knew, but it appeared to us that you were almost poking fun, .....if that makes sense. Like OH NOW WE KNOW WHY THEY WERE KILLED, HE WAS A DRUG DEALER!!!!!!!!!!!! SO THEY DESERVED TO DIE.

iI truly believe the Pitch owes the families an apology. Good people, made bad decisions, and their life was taken away because of it, isnt' that enough punishment? I believe it is.

Dead or alive, they were loved, they had families, and the families are trying to move on. God bless each and every one of Liv and Snap's loved ones.

Comment by K — January 11, 2008 @ 05:53PM

Dear M, MER, Lalo, you obviously state you are a relative and were at the trial....i didn't appreciate what you said about Tony Botello nor his mom, both cousins to me. I am not as familiar with his blog as you and don't need to be. You seem to be upset at comments he's made and because of that you believe you are entitled to be hateful and judgemental, you really went to far. Well, everyone loves members of their family, you are not the only one, so i am here responding to your comments but without the anger and bitterness you possess. I knew Snap and Liv very well and I state very well because someone will question "how well I knew them" if I am not raging with anger at other comments posted and/or the writer of this article. Everything about this article is sad....because it never had to happen in the first place and could have easily have been avoided.

Comment by Enough Already — January 11, 2008 @ 06:13PM

Thanks Justin

I also wonder how many other families are overlooking or just idnoring these risky lifestyles of their loved ones. We hear about the low-income welfare mom that turns her head to her son's drug dealing because she needs the money in the house. But what about the middle-income folk who sort of don't ask about the nephew who supposedly rehabs houses but you never really see him plaster on his clothers or a lot of the property going on the market. Or the person who works a mid-wage job but has lots of cash from dealing part time. Or the person who astually believes she is dealing just enough to get seed money for her salon. Or how many college girls and even professional women are with these guys like this because they are not the scary-looking thugged out dealers.

Comment by j — January 11, 2008 @ 06:16PM

To the people that didn't like this story: Why even read the story in the first place if you are just going to waste your time bitching about here. We do live in America. I thought it was a well written and informative story. Which brings me to my next point Kids don't smoke crack.

Comment by Flash — January 11, 2008 @ 06:17PM

WOULD YOU BE SO COLD IF THIS WAS ONE OF YOUR OWN??
WE ALL HAVE SINNED, SO WHO ARE YOU TO THROW STONES??
THE WAGE OF _ALL_ SIN IS DEATH!!
YOU SIN TOO OR DID YOU FORGET??
I ASSURE YOU GOD HASN'T,
BUT HE DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY
HE LOVES US REGARDLESS OF THE HATEFUL THINGS WE SAY,
OR THE PEOPLE THAT WE SLEEP WITH BEFORE WE ARE WED,
OR THE LUSTFUL THOUGHTS THAT RUN AROUND IN OUR HEAD,
OR THE GREED THAT WE SHOW WHEN WE'RE NEVER SATISFIED,
AND I GUARANTEE HE REMEMBER'S THE LAST TIME THAT YOU LIED!
SO BEFORE YOU PASS JUDGEMENT ON SOMEBODY ELSE,
LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND WORRY 'BOUT YOURSELF!!!!

Comment by NIKI ELDRIDGE — January 11, 2008 @ 11:13PM

I just want the world to know that whatever this young couple did or did not do. They didn't deserve there lives to end like this. Only animals kill for the joy of it. And these animals that killed for greed deserve there deaths to be slow and painful. And for the shooter I hope everynite in your dreams you see the beautiful young lady you killed. And I don't want GOD to have mercy on your soul. Because you are the Devil's son. And the only one God should have mercy on is your mother. Because it's not her fault you are what you are. We know Olivia is walking amoung the angels, and is watching over her family. They could have sent her away before they did there business with Tony. The drug business does not go without punishment.Thank God the trial is over and the families are in peace now.

Comment by Monica Pacheco — January 12, 2008 @ 11:53AM

To each and everyone of you...


If you don't have anything nice to say, Don't say anything at all...

Comment by Kelly — January 14, 2008 @ 03:12PM

God K amd Shelley...how old are you?Ever read an article about crime in your narrow minded little lives?The writer Im pleased to say did a great job in telling the story.If it takes more than a person having the IQ of a carrott to understand....well then its not on the author? Its also shocking to see how many of you(suburban Libs to ghetto snipes...I cant tell)are so sympathetic to the crack trade! Good job Anita....you represent yourself well. And no my little Atheiest friends...God didnt plan the murder or pull the trigger.....but he sure gives you the capacity to do it to yourself.
ps....I know a little about crack smokin' and the such and there are no heroes or happy endings...EVER!

Comment by billy — January 14, 2008 @ 10:11PM

Excuse for standing up for a young woman I went to school with. And knew more to just being a drug dealers girlfriend. God forgive me showing compassion and sympathy. What was I thinking?

Comment by Shelley — January 15, 2008 @ 11:41AM

To all of the people who continuously say that Tony sold drugs because he grew up in a bad area or environment you really did not know him. Tony grew up in good area with loving parents and family went to the best schools and his family gave him almost every thing he wanted. So Stop putting the blame and his actions on growing up without a silver spoon because he didn't have a silve spoon but he had it pretty darn good one. Tony made that decision on his own to sell drugs, he didn't want to work hard to earn a living. He wanted the fast money and that lifestyle is why he is not here today. I don't believe anyone should die the way they did, but when you deal with those type of people drug dealers as be all know most of them are dead or in jail.

someone who grew up around the corner from Tony.

Comment by westside — January 15, 2008 @ 12:17PM

Yea Shelley what were you thinking? Honey you must be in denial. Your life must be so boring that you have to keep putting your comments out there. Okay everyone has seen your smelly shelley name enough times. Shut the HELL UP! Your not living in a perfect world where everyone says perfect wonderful things about other people.

Comment by Jessica — January 15, 2008 @ 02:31PM

Hey! K! sounds like your the arrogant one. Seriously, your the one who needs to STOP SPEAKING!!! By running your mouth doesn't help the family move on does it? You must be a very insecure old lady. Your probably good friends with Smelly Shelley. In the same breath that you are God blessing people you are cursing and cutting people down. So stop acting like you are so Holy. You are no angel yourself. So keep the lip zipped witch!!

Comment by T — January 15, 2008 @ 04:35PM

Anita, I am also from the Westside community and agree with you as well. To everyone that does not recognize there are consequences to being involved with drugs, you have completely lost the most valuable message this story has to offer and it is really our community that suffers with this denial. This article was not written to harm the families, it was written because the court case recently happened and the truth came out. The families benefitted from having high exposure to this case, they raised reward money and the killers were found, so why can't the truth be told? To everyone that feels the need to defend and are not willing to listen to what others think, then don't read these comments anymore...because the same 5 people keep commenting over and over and everyone is entitled to their opinion, your view will not change mine. I knew both of the victims too but I can see living with a drug dealer and being so comfortable you can hang out on the couch and write thank you notes while other drug dealers are coming in and out of your house makes you far from innocent. It was their lifestyle, the article even mentioned that her sister's boyfriend was also involved. Anyone that knew the victims knew what the truth was before this article came out, this article gave no surprises. I feel sorry for the families but I care for my community as well and hope this can make at least one person if not more think twice about getting involved directly or indirectly with drugs.

Comment by Fellow Westsider — January 15, 2008 @ 07:01PM

about some of the comments, about this guy rios being a drug dealer, i think that drug dealers can be nice people and be good citizens as well, cvs,walgreens,wal-mart,etc...are drug dealers, and they serve addicts as well, and the comments about the addicts having their lives ruined by mr. rios, well nobody was/is/did force the drug users to buy drugs from this man. also, when we speak of addictions, how come people do not list gambling, and the "riverboats", here in the city? they are just as bad as drugs,i mean gambling, in that it causes pain,hardships-economic-and social, and causes crime to go up, etc.... also, smoking kills way more people every year than do drugs, and if smoking were illegal like drugs are, then we would have the same problems with smoking that we now are having with drugs, just look at the history of alcohol. many,mayn,many years ago, coffee used to be illegal and it was treated with the stigma that drugs are today, and i do belive that there can be honest drug dealers, and social users of drugs... not all people involved with drugs are losers, or scumbags, or bottom-feeders, thank you for your time,and my deepest sympathies go out to the families of these two young adults. they sounded like very good and decent people.

Comment by danny — January 16, 2008 @ 01:01AM

about some of the comments, about this guy rios being a drug dealer, i think that drug dealers can be nice people and be good citizens as well, cvs,walgreens,wal-mart,etc...are drug dealers, and they serve addicts as well, and the comments about the addicts having their lives ruined by mr. rios, well nobody was/is/did force the drug users to buy drugs from this man. also, when we speak of addictions, how come people do not list gambling, and the "riverboats", here in the city? they are just as bad as drugs,i mean gambling, in that it causes pain,hardships-economic-and social, and causes crime to go up, etc.... also, smoking kills way more people every year than do drugs, and if smoking were illegal like drugs are, then we would have the same problems with smoking that we now are having with drugs, just look at the history of alcohol. many,mayn,many years ago, coffee used to be illegal and it was treated with the stigma that drugs are today, and i do belive that there can be honest drug dealers, and social users of drugs... not all people involved with drugs are losers, or scumbags, or bottom-feeders, thank you for your time,and my deepest sympathies go out to the families of these two young adults. they sounded like very good and decent people.

Comment by danny — January 16, 2008 @ 01:02AM

Anita you best pray that you never face something like this. your words are ugly and GOD don't like ugly.

Comment by glad i ain't you — January 17, 2008 @ 01:58PM

fellow westsider. your as stupid as Anita. There's drug all through your family. you'll see.

Comment by glad i ain't you — January 17, 2008 @ 02:09PM

I am a regular reader of this newspaper & I have to say that this article was very disturbing...not only because of its contents but because I did know, Olivia & her family as well. She didn't deserve to die, no matter what she knew, what she witnessed or because of who she loved. She came from a good, strong family that loved her dearly & any one of them would do anything for anybody-thats how they are. Judgement shouldn't have been made upon her because of who she fell in love with. Nobody's perfect, everyone makes mistakes...so nobody has the right to judge anybody!! There are always consequences to the way we choose to live our lives & make decisions that we learn from both good & bad. We all want the best in life & for our families & sometimes we do what it takes to get us there, some do it the easy way & some, the hard way.

Comment by Angel — January 17, 2008 @ 02:12PM

I just wanted to make a statement to all who have commented. Now that we all know what has happened in the life of these two young people, good and bad. Let's just let them rest in peace now. The only judge is GOD. And he is the judge of us all. I think this article has gotten out of hand with it's comments, and now it's time to let it go. Let's just take a lesson on what we've learned of this. And hope that we never have to read of things like this about anymore friends or family.

Comment by Monica — January 17, 2008 @ 02:39PM

well, I understand where this story is coming from but to know the party that was murder if you only knew olivia, she was the sweetest and when you spoke with her she put a smile on your face and to even speak of her mother, she didnt know any of their dealings. I love Olivia and had much respect for her mother and father she comes from a normal middle class mexican american family so dont judge her family or his. Just let them rest in peace !!!!! LOVE U LIV !!!!!!!!

Comment by westsider — January 19, 2008 @ 10:01PM

The article was well written. It is sad and sometimes the truth is painful to accept. My prayers go out to the families. Sometimes we all make the wrong choices. It is just sad that two young people had to pay with thier lives for a few wrong choices. I am sure thier parents ask themselves on a daily basis why they did not insist on a different way of life.

Comment by live life to the fullest — January 21, 2008 @ 05:00PM

I remembering hearing about the shooting all them years ago and I knew it had to be drug related. Anyone in that "world" knows that there is a possibility of death. He made that choice, as did she by staying with him. This has nothing to do with race, gender or creed. It is all about illegal dealings and drugs. I have family members with revolving doors to the Prison systems for the same reasons. I do not feel sorry for any of them.

Comment by Bren — January 22, 2008 @ 01:17AM

Welcome to life folks.
Shit happens, deal with it and move on; as you know, nothing anyone can say or do can change the past.

For everyone speaking for Mexican-Americans and people who live or were raised in the "ghetto", please do not speak for all of us. If anything most of you have tarnished the name of your peers, so please, only speak for yourself and never for others.

I too am Mexican-American, I was raised in the "ghetto" and still live here. I read all of the comments and am embarrasssed at the ignorance of the writers. Majority of the people who pointed their fingers at others for making judgements, being "harsh", and not being sympathetic aren't in any place to make such remarks. Yes, we all have the right to share our opinions, but it is ignorant to slander the character and opinions of those who have opposing opinions. To each their own right ?

I did not know either of the "victims", I am sure that were loving and caring people, but they were both criminals. The love for these people is obvious and it is a shame to think that they did not have enough sense to give their loved ones the respect that anyone deserves. I am not saying that they did not love in return nor did they not have respect for their loved ones and others, but I am saying that it's sick that neither of them (along with others involved in the "game")cared enough to earn a respectable lifestyle that promotes life, not risk it.

"Rios had an alibi for family members wondering how he made his money. He told them that he rehabbed houses."

Rios knew what he was doing and he knew it was wrong, or else he wouldn't have had an alibi. Maybe his or her family really knew maybe not, it doesn't matter now. You know the risk you take when you involve yourself with things like drug dealing.

Most people would like to experience the nicer things in life, but most of us cherish our lives too much (for the sake of ourselves, our loved ones, whomever)to get involved with something that could kill us and put our family through the pain and suffering of losing a loved one.

It hurts that the two of them and others' lives were taken because they were someone's family and someone's friend, it also hurts to know that the way they behaved in life caused their death.

The "high" life is disgustingly glorified in this society, no one is ignorant to the risks taken when involving themselves with drugs. This might be a little elementary, but I'm sure many of you saw the movie Scarface. No one mourns the loss of a fictional character yet we can all learn from it... without pain. It sucks that real lives had to be taken in order to stir up some controversery but it also showcases the ignorance of humans.

The healed wounds of family/friends might have been opened, Rios or Raya did not put any possible consequnces of their lifestyles into perspective for the sake of their loved ones, that hurts more than any of them reading this article.


The writer of the article did his job, the reason why he wrote doesn't matter. It gives facts, which have already been put to trial. The personal opinions of the writer and The Pitch don't matter either, they are not in the business to heal or sympathize, get over it.

It is not the writer's job to glorify the life of the dead, regardless of who they are/were. Most of you have done an excellent job in defending the characters of the vicitms without pay, none of you provided any facts, because it has been done.

Take what I have said as you will, support/slander me and my opinions all you like, but remember that you too are just as guilty for what I am guilty of.

Comment by A — January 22, 2008 @ 08:28PM

Welcome to life folks.
Shit happens, deal with it and move on; as you know, nothing anyone can say or do can change the past.

For everyone speaking for Mexican-Americans and people who live or were raised in the "ghetto", please do not speak for all of us. If anything most of you have tarnished the name of your peers, so please, only speak for yourself and never for others.

I too am Mexican-American, I was raised in the "ghetto" and still live here. I read all of the comments and am embarrasssed at the ignorance of the writers. Majority of the people who pointed their fingers at others for making judgements, being "harsh", and not being sympathetic aren't in any place to make such remarks. Yes, we all have the right to share our opinions, but it is ignorant to slander the character and opinions of those who have opposing opinions. To each their own right ?

I did not know either of the "victims", I am sure that were loving and caring people, but they were both criminals. The love for these people is obvious and it is a shame to think that they did not have enough sense to give their loved ones the respect that anyone deserves. I am not saying that they did not love in return nor did they not have respect for their loved ones and others, but I am saying that it's sick that neither of them (along with others involved in the "game")cared enough to earn a respectable lifestyle that promotes life, not risk it.

"Rios had an alibi for family members wondering how he made his money. He told them that he rehabbed houses."

Rios knew what he was doing and he knew it was wrong, or else he wouldn't have had an alibi. Maybe his or her family really knew maybe not, it doesn't matter now. You know the risk you take when you involve yourself with things like drug dealing.

Most people would like to experience the nicer things in life, but most of us cherish our lives too much (for the sake of ourselves, our loved ones, whomever)to get involved with something that could kill us and put our family through the pain and suffering of losing a loved one.

It hurts that the two of them and others' lives were taken because they were someone's family and someone's friend, it also hurts to know that the way they behaved in life caused their death.

The "high" life is disgustingly glorified in this society, no one is ignorant to the risks taken when involving themselves with drugs. This might be a little elementary, but I'm sure many of you saw the movie Scarface. No one mourns the loss of a fictional character yet we can all learn from it... without pain. It sucks that real lives had to be taken in order to stir up some controversery but it also showcases the ignorance of humans.

The healed wounds of family/friends might have been opened, Rios or Raya did not put any possible consequnces of their lifestyles into perspective for the sake of their loved ones, that hurts more than any of them reading this article.


The writer of the article did his job, the reason why he wrote doesn't matter. It gives facts, which have already been put to trial. The personal opinions of the writer and The Pitch don't matter either, they are not in the business to heal or sympathize, get over it.

It is not the writer's job to glorify the life of the dead, regardless of who they are/were. Most of you have done an excellent job in defending the characters of the vicitms without pay, none of you provided any facts, because it has been done.

Take what I have said as you will, support/slander me and my opinions all you like, but remember that you too are just as guilty for what I am guilty of.

Comment by A — January 22, 2008 @ 08:28PM

As someone who knew this couple, I can say that there has been a lesson learned. Many in their world have changed their lives for the better, meaning that they don't sell drugs anymore. It was a tragic wake up call, but what happened has changed many lives. For most dealers, the worst thing they think will ever happen is to get busted by the cops. Now everyone is painfully aware of the additional ways that selling can hurt them. Snap & Liv learned the hardest and most permanent way possible- let's not forget the lesson their deaths taught us.

Comment by Alicia — January 26, 2008 @ 11:06PM

A- Thanks for that long dumb comment you left. Why dont you just go to hell! It doesnt make it right for anyone to be killed just because it was wrong for what Tony was doing. What Ghetto did you or do you live in? Overland Park, Mission, Parkville, HMMM??? You dont know a damn thing! The editor wrote this story to exploit them, so what if it was fact, the victims were exploited!!! That is just wrong, Just let them rest in peace and let thier families move on! You and the other ignorant people that have left ignorant comments just get a life and get over yourself. You are no better than them!

Comment by me — January 28, 2008 @ 02:48PM

to "ME"
TALK ABOUT AN IDIOT.... Man, who pissed in your cheerios?!?!!?

Comment by Caring person — January 28, 2008 @ 03:59PM

Here is another great example of The Pitch's intelligence. They support racial harmony, yet I see the word "Nigger" printed everywhere in this article. The Pitch is nothing more than a trashy, fictional reading! I just ask that they get their stories right before printing them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comment by Mike Jones — January 31, 2008 @ 01:53PM

I think "Justin" the writer is a fucking prick. I think that he was still a person, and at one time or another your friend has either sold, or bought a joint, so if they were randomly shot by some fucking psychopath, well..oh, well.Just another dead dope dealer.FUCKING IDIOT.Show some compassion.Prick.

Comment by Maria — January 31, 2008 @ 11:37PM

To "me"- Thanks for the short, absurd comment you left. Why don't you just learn how to write with correct punctation and proper grammer ? Why don't you just go back to elementary school ? I never said it was right for Tony to be killed. I live/grew up no where near the areas you mentioned, great job assuming. I may not "know a damn thing", but I do know how to produce intellegent sentences and I do know that editors don't write stories, they EDIT them. The author wrote the story. The victims were exploited, I don't think they cared to think much about the consequences of their actions on that Friday night, you reap what you sow in life. I'm not stomping on their graves nor am I preventing their families from moving on... stop making excuses, the "victims" are only victims of their own actions, regretfully, it ended in death. I never claimed to be better than anyone, you are pointing your finger at yourself. I do have a life, if I didn't, I wouldn't be capable of leaving a comment.

Comment by A — February 6, 2008 @ 09:29PM

Justin: Thank your for writing this article. I too had seen the billboards and was concerned for the families and sadden by the loss of these two young people. You wonder about how two apparantly young and innocent people could be murdered without reason. Then the billboards disappeared and I never knew anymore about what happened, until I read your article today.

I fail to see, as so many have commented, how you sat in judgement of these young people. The facts are the facts. He was selling drugs.The commentors seem to project their anger for what occurred onto you, as if you were the shooter.

I hope to see more of your work in the Pitch. Thanks for bringing the details of this case to light for the general public, not just those in the barrio o la raza that seem to think they are