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Re: “Mexican macro-economics

Alright, so we all think that our nation is the only one who shouldn't have to deal with illegal immigrants. But, have any of you tought about who were the owners of this land in the first place??? NATIVE AMERICANS...we're all, somehow, immigrants. The fact that some of us were born here doesn't make us any less immigrants than them. I'm an economist, so as a professional, I know that most of these illegal immigrants work and get deducted from their paychecks what they are supposed to for social security, medicaid and other fees. So, who gets all the benefits from this? Obviously, not them!!! They don file for tax, they don't claim their medicaid rights...The government takes advantage of this!! They get to keep the money that illegal immigrants pay for on their wages!!! What about those families who came to this country to offer their kids a better life, because back in their homecountry they couldn't get a job or just couldn't see the light at the end of the tunnel (economically)? Their kids are good citizens, they go to school, participate in local activities and even do social services. Not all immigrants give their back on the government. What about those who actually go through the trouble of getting and ITIN number? They pay taxes and send their kids to college? What should we do with those families? They are doing the right thing. Their kids have no chance of getting a job in their homecountry. Isn't an advantage for us to have those prepared and intelectual people? It is time for us to open our eyes to this new world we live in. There are millions of immigrants living in our country, we can't send them all back. We better take advantage of their potential. I'm an ALL AMERICAN and proud of my MEXICAN ROOTS!!!

Posted by alternative on 12/05/2010 at 8:19 PM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

My fiance' wrecked her bike and needed stitches in her shin, about 7 of them, went to St Joseph Hospital ER, we were there maybe 90 minutes. Wonderful service, but the bills so far are $2200!
How can that be I asked? "We get a lot of non-English speakers that don't pay", came the answer.
So the undocumented workers that work for cash, pay no taxes, no social security, and no health care premiums, drag down all of us.
Maybe some roofing company or yard service reaps benefits from employing illegals, but I don't, and I have to pay the bill.
Same with the school system, how many teachers have to learn ESL courses and how many schools have added staff to educate the illegals kids? And then you have the drug gangs spilling over into the US. Think about that, cause its your money

Posted by Itsyourmoney on 12/05/2010 at 3:25 PM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

My fiance' wrecked her bike and needed stitches in her shin, about 7 of them, went to St Joseph Hospital ER, we were there maybe 90 minutes. Wonderful service, but the bills so far are $2200! How can that be I asked? "We get a lot of non-English speakers that don't pay", came the answer. So the undocumented workers that work for cash, pay no taxes, no social security, and no health care premiums, drag down all of us. Maybe some roofing company or yard service reaps benefits from employing illegals, but I don't, and I have to pay the bill. Same with the school system, how many teachers have to learn ESL courses and how many schools have added staff to educate the illegals kids? And then you have the drug gangs spilling over into the US. Think about that, cause its your money

Posted by Itsyourmoney on 12/05/2010 at 12:25 PM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

Growing up in a small farming community in Kansas you know where your dollars go when you spend them on local labor and that in turn keeps that dollar in the community resulting in a stronger community. In larger communities one does not see that benefit so clearly and how powerful those dollars can be for the over all health and strength of that community. The numbers the article puts out seem to be unbelievable for both sides. When illegal immigrants work for low wages and without the protection of US laws I see it as a form of indentured servant and that is a form of slavery. That is not the American I want to be apart of. The Pitch should be doing more articles that allow the reader to see that cheap labor in American is looking more like human trafficing or ok form of modern day slavery!

Posted by Jerry on 12/04/2010 at 7:39 PM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

We all should'nt worry about missy tooken our jobs. They key word is ILLEGAL! All other facts are secondary. There is such a thing as workers coming to the US to work and then they GO HOME! I am not just talking Mexicans here but all ILLEGAL immigrants.

Posted by Craig on 12/04/2010 at 6:22 PM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

Growing up in a small farming community in Kansas you know where your dollars go when you spend them on local labor and that in turn keeps that dollar in the community resulting in a stronger community. In larger communities one does not see that benefit so clearly and how powerful those dollars can be for the over all health and strength of that community. The numbers the article puts out seem to be unbelievable for both sides. When illegal immigrants work for low wages and without the protection of US laws I see it as a form of indentured servant and that is a form of slavery. That is not the American I want to be apart of. The Pitch should be doing more articles that allow the reader to see that cheap labor in American is looking more like human trafficing or ok form of modern day slavery!

Posted by Jerry on 12/04/2010 at 4:39 PM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

We all should'nt worry about missy tooken our jobs. They key word is ILLEGAL! All other facts are secondary. There is such a thing as workers coming to the US to work and then they GO HOME! I am not just talking Mexicans here but all ILLEGAL immigrants.

Posted by Craig on 12/04/2010 at 3:22 PM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

Well the first mistake is taking anything that California has to say seriously. That state is a bankrupt failure because of its views.
I see nothing wrong with immigrant workers as long as they come here on a work visa, have a job to go to, and return to their country of origin when the work is completed. We don't need a bunch of unemployed undocumented illegals looking for a job. We have enough folks looking for jobs now.
The problem isn't really the USA as much as it is Mexico. The country of Mexico has all that it needs to be a productive country but will not do it, they will not respect the US by patrolling their own side of the border and provide reasonable law enforcement in its border towns. If they did we wouldn't have to deal with so many of their criminal nationals. Higher expectations need to fall on the Mexican government and sanctions need to be imposed for their failure to enforce laws. Mexico enjoys many lucrative trade agreements with the US and they need to be held responsible for lack of respect of our border.

Posted by TB on 12/04/2010 at 1:50 PM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

It seems to me that the main point is being missed here. It's not the jobs that they take that is hurting us, it's the free medical services they get, it's the burden they are putting on our prison system (ask Ca. what percentage illegals make up in their prison system), why do we have to supply bilengual teachers in our school system?, why do they get to draw from our welfare system and social security system when they have never paid into them? I don't know all the answers but I do know that when they crossed our borders illegally they were telling us that they don't respect our laws then and what makes us think they will respect them once they are here?

Posted by Dennis on 12/04/2010 at 11:31 AM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

Well the first mistake is taking anything that California has to say seriously. That state is a bankrupt failure because of its views. I see nothing wrong with immigrant workers as long as they come here on a work visa, have a job to go to, and return to their country of origin when the work is completed. We don't need a bunch of unemployed undocumented illegals looking for a job. We have enough folks looking for jobs now. The problem isn't really the USA as much as it is Mexico. The country of Mexico has all that it needs to be a productive country but will not do it, they will not respect the US by patrolling their own side of the border and provide reasonable law enforcement in its border towns. If they did we wouldn't have to deal with so many of their criminal nationals. Higher expectations need to fall on the Mexican government and sanctions need to be imposed for their failure to enforce laws. Mexico enjoys many lucrative trade agreements with the US and they need to be held responsible for lack of respect of our border.

Posted by TB on 12/04/2010 at 10:50 AM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

It seems to me that the main point is being missed here. It's not the jobs that they take that is hurting us, it's the free medical services they get, it's the burden they are putting on our prison system (ask Ca. what percentage illegals make up in their prison system), why do we have to supply bilengual teachers in our school system?, why do they get to draw from our welfare system and social security system when they have never paid into them? I don't know all the answers but I do know that when they crossed our borders illegally they were telling us that they don't respect our laws then and what makes us think they will respect them once they are here?

Posted by Dennis on 12/04/2010 at 8:31 AM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

Typical Leftist Baloney...

Posted by Blue Knight on 12/04/2010 at 2:44 AM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

Typical Leftist Baloney...

Posted by Blue Knight on 12/03/2010 at 11:44 PM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

The entire article turns on the words "not necessarily true". Typical tripe. It does not refute or lay out an empirical position, just spouts bunk in a sophomoric attempt to sway opinion. Foul ball, Pitch.

Posted by Erudite on 12/03/2010 at 5:16 PM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

The entire article turns on the words "not necessarily true". Typical tripe. It does not refute or lay out an empirical position, just spouts bunk in a sophomoric attempt to sway opinion. Foul ball, Pitch.

Posted by Erudite on 12/03/2010 at 2:16 PM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

missy, you are either an illegal yourself or one of those ignorant bleeding heart liberals. Possibly both. Illegals have all but destroyed the economy on both sides of the state line in Kansas City by saturating it with cheap labor.

Posted by gary on 12/03/2010 at 10:08 AM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

missy, you are either an illegal yourself or one of those ignorant bleeding heart liberals. Possibly both. Illegals have all but destroyed the economy on both sides of the state line in Kansas City by saturating it with cheap labor.

Posted by gary on 12/03/2010 at 7:08 AM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

Are you kidding me?? that s what happens when corporate and government think thanks attempt to think... the construction trades used to be a good place to work1 roofers, framers, concrete guys made a living wage before all the illegals came.. I know I was one of them. When you have gangs of guys coming in at 8 bucks an hour cash, for back breaking work, all living in one apartment and you are tryin to support a family they cut the pay till it is not worth the trouble! been there and done that...

Posted by john on 12/02/2010 at 10:06 PM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

Are you kidding me?? that s what happens when corporate and government think thanks attempt to think... the construction trades used to be a good place to work1 roofers, framers, concrete guys made a living wage before all the illegals came.. I know I was one of them. When you have gangs of guys coming in at 8 bucks an hour cash, for back breaking work, all living in one apartment and you are tryin to support a family they cut the pay till it is not worth the trouble! been there and done that...

Posted by john on 12/02/2010 at 7:06 PM

Re: “Mexican macro-economics

There are many subcontractors in this area who pay taxes, own homes and are actively contributing in many ways to their community. They have to submit competitive bids for their part of a construction project.

I have seen big apartment projects in this area where there are an endless supply of mexican workers doing sheet rock, roofing, stonework and cement work on Saturdays and Sundays. These were not small projects. Some of these projects covered several city blocks and took more than a year to finish. The contractors who were doing this work beat out the other subs that were using long-standing members of this community. The undocumented workers who were probably using forged green cards do not pay for homes, hospital expenses and other things. It is a well known fact that a lot of their money goes back to Mexico. If local residents were used, all this money would go to keeping up property values, and otherwise spent in this community. The local subcontractors are unfairly and probably illegaly disadvantaged in their bidding by others who are using these undocumented workers.

Think of all of the Mexican workers used in the repair of the Kitrina hurricane damage. Think of the outrageously high fees the contractors were paid, and the amount of this money that went back to Mexico.

I think that these reports are skewed to conclude anything they want to conclude if they say the economic gain or loss is a wash.

Posted by Robert Fenn on 12/02/2010 at 2:10 PM

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