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Re: “Talking shop, bread and social practice with community artist Sean Starowitz

"But whether his practice is considered art, by people who spend a lot of time determining that sort of thing, seems not to interest him much."

The people determining the artists' validity have already done so if he's a Charlotte Street Fellow.

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Posted by JUST SAYING on 09/24/2014 at 12:41 PM

Re: “Talking shop, bread and social practice with community artist Sean Starowitz

Thank you Natalie for a positive story about things going on in KC and saving us from yet another negatively toned 'this is why kc sucks' article from Vockrodt or Hudnall.

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Posted by Someone at the Pitch loves KC.. on 09/24/2014 at 11:40 AM

Re: “A closer look at the Feds' crackdown on two KC-based predatory lenders

sooo, there's no sauage here?

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Posted by Kirk Cameron on 09/24/2014 at 10:48 AM

Re: “A closer look at the Feds' crackdown on two KC-based predatory lenders

How on earth could the Catholic Church let this happen?

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Posted by Nard Noob on 09/24/2014 at 10:31 AM

Re: “A closer look at the Feds' crackdown on two KC-based predatory lenders

It is simply amazing to me that the State Legislatures know about these sort of predatory lending schemes yet do nothing to rein in these abusive practices. I like the idea of the US Post Office providing banking services to poor people, but in the political climate we have now, where people like Darryl Issa are doing their best to destroy the Post Office and privatize it, it will not happen.

I am glad that the FTC has stepped in here. Perhaps the threat of Federal civil suits and asset seizures will clean this cesspool up a bit.

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Posted by Ramblinfarms on 09/24/2014 at 9:28 AM

Re: “While Stand Up KC pushes for higher wages, fast-food companies still have it their way

Here's a possible unintended consequence of $15/hr - once you raise the minimum wage, you're going to find that the applicant pool is better educated and more qualified. My guess is that many of these people campaigning for higher wages might find themselves having to competing for and losing out on jobs that are suddenly more attractive to those more qualified.

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Posted by Charlie Frizzell on 09/22/2014 at 1:50 PM

Re: “While Stand Up KC pushes for higher wages, fast-food companies still have it their way

What is the hourly wage of the union organizer who exploits these naive fast food workers?

If they had any sense they'd be organizing to save their jobs from the robots and touch screen ordering stations that are about to make their jobs completely obsolete.

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Posted by Not Sure on 09/19/2014 at 11:07 PM

Re: “Cliff Drive: perfect for running, biking, hiking – and driving your trash

Light-rail is going to fix this, right??

Posted by shaking my head in disbelief on 09/19/2014 at 6:33 PM

Re: “While Stand Up KC pushes for higher wages, fast-food companies still have it their way

We can raise the min wage to $15 an hour- after we also double the military pay. How's that? Once you work out a military persons hourly week schedule- they are making at or less than min. wage. Little bit more dangerous environments for them compared to a fry bagger don't you think?
Then once the min wage is $15 an hour, the people who already had jobs that paid $15 an hour get to protest and demand $30 an hour because their company makes billions every year and they're only getting paid min. wage now. Why should they have to shave and dress in business casual in a stuffy office for 40hrs a week when they can get paid the same amount to slap tomatoes on a burger even though a piece of paper 10 inches in front of their face clearly says 'no tomatoes'. So that has to be raised. And then the people who make $30 an hour (union people and such) get to protest and strike that they are only paid min wage when they have a 'skilled' position and should be compensated as such for it.

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Posted by Jake Elliott on 09/19/2014 at 3:41 PM

Re: “While Stand Up KC pushes for higher wages, fast-food companies still have it their way

Any of these commenters interested in making economic, not moral, arguments against raising the minimum wage?

For about four decades, increases in the minimum wage have fallen behind inflation while worker productivity has doubled. That doesn't sound like systemic laziness to me.

And "you don't deserve it" spite isn't a terribly compelling justification to me for keeping the minimum wage low. Especially if reducing income inequality would lead to faster U.S. economic growth overall--which an August Standard & Poor's study suggests.

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Posted by Liz on 09/19/2014 at 3:02 PM

Re: “While Stand Up KC pushes for higher wages, fast-food companies still have it their way

Ahh yes, it took a few days but someone had to bring race into it. When in doubt, resort to the race card.
Here are a few facts for 'y'all' as you so eloquently put it.

You know what really damages neighborhood property values? Drugs. Gangs. Not caring about personal property. Not having pride in where you live. You think a McDonalds is the thing that damages property values? Work with the police to get the bad shit off the streets. You demand more money to flip burgers but god forbid you demand/organize your neighborhood be cleaned up of drugs and gangs.

So don't open a business because it could put some other business out? You do realize that every business ever started- started out small right? You like the mom & pop place? Great- eat there and support it- not hard. I'm pretty sure Taco Bell isn't putting the legit taco places out of business over in KCK- I know this because I like those joints so I eat there and support them instead of Taco Bell.

RE: Your comment of 'I say we pay these folks a fair wage and see if McDonalds can adapt to the real world instead of this fantasy land they live in where they have no responsibility.'

That is funny because you just want the 'no responsibility' part to be switched around and that's it. You saying give people a fair wage to see if McDonalds can adapt to the real world instead of this fantasy land they live in where they have no responsibility.
How about the people who work at fast food places 'adapt to the real world instead of this fantasy land they live in where they have no responsibility' but that would include applying yourself and who the fuck would want to do that right?!

3 different executives on McDonalds board in the USA started out as a burger flipper- not that means anything other than they worked hard to get out of flipping burgers for the rest of their life.

I apologize for being less lazy then other people. I apologize for not buying shit I can't afford. I apologize for having a mom and dad that gave a flying shit about me. I apologize for not having kids I can't/won't take of. I'm a horrible person for all of this. How dare I be a responsible contributing member of society when I should have just sat around knocking kids out and working a shit job and then demanding the company give me more money because they have more than me and fuck them right? And that isn't a race thing either- all races do that- and regardless of their race, it isn't right.
Frederick Douglass learned to read and write, escaped slavery and became a writer and statesmen on his own with little or no help, but by all means explain to me why you can't better yourself in today's world.
Oprah born in poverty- how is she doing?
Shadid Khan (owns the Jacksonville Jag NFL team) came to the US from Pakistan washing dishes. Now worth 3.8 billion.
John Paul DeJoria (Patron Tequila)- once lived in his car. Worth 4 billion.
George Soros- hid from the Nazis during WWII- put himself through school while working as a waiter and rail porter. Worth 20 billion.

All extreme cases, but they all started at the bottom.

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Posted by rebuttal on 09/19/2014 at 8:17 AM

Re: “While Stand Up KC pushes for higher wages, fast-food companies still have it their way

More skills = More money

I respect everyone who works hard, doing whatever they do. Even so, you have to be realistic and a little bit smart. You can work harder than anyone and never get out of the hole if you aren't working toward a target that is higher than unskilled/entry-level jobs.

Here's a free lesson in employment economics ... read it, learn it, do it ... and get out of the street:

"Acquire a unique skill for which there is a demand."


That is the key to making more money. Learn something that not everyone can do, that other people need to have done. That's how you move up.

Work smarter, not harder.

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Posted by ralpheatsbeef on 09/18/2014 at 6:41 PM

Re: “While Stand Up KC pushes for higher wages, fast-food companies still have it their way

Why are folks in the comments defending McDonalds corporate executives, and throwing the poor folks under the bus? Mickey D's damages neighborhood property values, they put mom-and-pop hamburger joints out of business, the government subsidizes its workers, and nobody really likes the way they feel after eating a McDouble.

I say we pay these folks a fair wage and see if McDonalds can adapt to the real world instead of this fantasy land they live in where they have no responsibility.

And I'm tired of hearing y'all argue over how you're less lazy than the chronically poor. Your mama taught you how to wear those boots you supposedly pulled up, and your daddy gave you that light skin and awful Kearney accent. The only lazy people in this whole situation are the McDonalds executives who haven't had to try to make money in a long time.

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Posted by Ronald McDonald on 09/18/2014 at 5:44 PM

Re: “While Stand Up KC pushes for higher wages, fast-food companies still have it their way

My first job at 16 was at a Henrys Hamburgers making 85 cents per hour. After 20 minutes I realized it sucked and quit and found a better job. That's all you have to do is quit and find a better job. But then, if your personal capabilities keep you from doing anything more advanced than a McJob, then STFU and be happy someone is willing to even hire your dumb ass.

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Posted by Dave Thomas on 09/17/2014 at 3:08 PM

Re: “While Stand Up KC pushes for higher wages, fast-food companies still have it their way

I'm generally more fiscally conservative and socially liberal and here's where I stand, and please hear me out. First of all, this job requires absolutely zero skill whatsoever. We all need to acknowledge and understand that. Having said that - there are plenty of jobs in the world that require zero skill at all and pay a lot more. Unfortunately there is a large number of people that rely on jobs like this to feed, house and clothe an entire family. Sad but true. Since these folks are not going to make ends meet while working 40/hrs a week at McD's, they apply for public assistance. This means that the American taxpayer is essentially subsidizing McD's (and others) cost of doing business. Why should we have to foot that bill? There is NOTHING fiscally conservative about taxpayers subsidizing their workforce. Pay them more, and get them off public assistance. Your shareholders can bite it. This increase in pay also comes with the understanding that *most* of you need to start giving a shit about what you do. I don't eat fast food often, but when I do, (unless I'm eating at Culver's or ChickFilA) I'm exposed to some of the slowest, lazy folks with the biggest "give a shit" attitudes I've ever met. Get the fucking chip off your shoulder and do your fucking job.

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Posted by Alan Aldi on 09/17/2014 at 1:21 PM

Re: “While Stand Up KC pushes for higher wages, fast-food companies still have it their way

Well stated Jake. What people refuse to comprehend is that minimum wage is not and has never been meant to be a living wage for a 35 year old man like the story referenced. Minimum wage workers make up 2.6% of the work force and the overwhelming majority of these people are young part time employee's just entering the workplace. These types of jobs are the first rung on the ladder for young people to gain experience in the workforce and help place themselves in a better position by learning from this experience and using it to help them take that second step on the ladder. I cant say for sure why Terrance Wise at 35 is still working a minimum wage fast food job, but what we do see is that many of these minimum wage workers are employeed at a job for a short period of time (perhaps a few months) then either quit or are fired only to move on to yet another minimum wage job. I have personally seen many workers start off at the bottom, work hard, stay in place and prove their worth thru their hard work, attitude and reliability to be promoted again and again to managerial postions that are very well paid. We live in a wonderful country that provides unlimited potential for anyone from any background no matter their age, gender or race for those who choose to work hard and make wise decisions. I'm guessing many of those those who don't work hard and make wise life decisions end up protesting in the streets for a $15 minimum wage.

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Posted by kcjoe on 09/17/2014 at 12:42 PM

Re: “While Stand Up KC pushes for higher wages, fast-food companies still have it their way

The problem is the football player that makes 5 mil and wants 6 can afford the basics, such as basic shelter, transportation, healthcare, and food. He wants because of greed not need. These workers if they were allowed to work 40 hours a week and some who do by working more than one job earn so little that they cannot afford these basics and have to utilize taxpayer assistance and even with that are highly exposed to any sickness where that might cost them a paycheck or any other financial setback that would cause them to go in a downward spiral of pay day loans and debt.
Additionally you speak of the companies making crazy profits while as was stated above these employees make so little that they qualify for taxpayer assistance even if they work 40 hours a week. A full time job that still qualifies as poverty and must take taxpayer money so that the company can add MORE profits for the shareholders and CEO's.

As for your $4.50 when you came up due to inflation it was worth more than $7.25 is today that is why there is a bill to catch up to the 60's pay rate. After indexing for inflation the min. wage back then was actually higher than it is today. That along with tracking CEO pay leads to the vast income inequality were when inflation is factored in the low income makes less and the rich enjoy even more.

With the attention that this has brought to this issue areas HAVE raised the min. wage and people can actually work their way out of debt and into some version of the American dream as well as the area not having to pay food stamps to the working poor because they are being paid closer to a living wage. So this was good day for them and an exercise of their constitutional rights as well as a pretty good way to save the area on taxpayer assistance If laws are changed or the public actually demands to shop only at places that taxpayer assistance is not a big part of the companies profits. The only ones that might suffer are the CEO might take only a 200X pay increase instead of the 500X pay increase and the shareholder might have to settle for a smaller % profit.

I know you did not say go to college for a better life. I grew up the min. wage was $4.25 so we are close in history that was when teenagers worked fast food. Look around it is not the same. Breadwinners from families are working their now the median age is 35. Included in those workers is a higher and higher % of college grads who now have crazy student debt and make no money because there are no jobs.

Crazy idea that also might work anyone who works should be paid so that if they worked 40 hours per week they would not qualify for taxpayer assistance but instead would be able to provide for themselves the basic necessities of life instead of just enough to shop at the company store on a good week.

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Posted by Lee McNew on 09/17/2014 at 12:09 PM

Re: “While Stand Up KC pushes for higher wages, fast-food companies still have it their way

If they get paid more they will lose their free gubberment handouts. Rent, groceries, and healthcare alone will more than wipe out any raise. No matter how much you make, Obama has devised a plan that will keep you poor. Affordable Health Care is designed to eliminate the middle class.

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Posted by Michelle O. on 09/17/2014 at 10:01 AM

Re: “While Stand Up KC pushes for higher wages, fast-food companies still have it their way

They feel that they should be paid more because the corporation makes a $hit-ton of money every year and that is not fair. Welcome to any job at any company in any country in this world.

Here is where I'm torn. I get you think you should make more money- there isn't a soul alive who doesn't wish that. Hell, look at the football players who make 5 mil a year and hold out for 6. I make a decent amount now and yes, I want more and when I make that 'more' money- I will want more-it is what people do. Here is the thing I think people forgot about- You have to EARN that 'more' money.

I didn't care for the pay I was making in my old job where I was working 40hrs a week so did I protest and demand they all but double my salary for the same amount of work? Nope- I went to school at night. And yes- I paid for it. Now before you come at me saying 'not everyone can afford school'- Yes, you can. You will most likely get some grant $ and maybe a couple loans but at least you are actively doing something to better your life instead of standing around demanding someone else do it for you.

I'm 34- Min wage was $4.50 when I was working in the Sonics and Little Caesars in Wichita- I was 16/17 and was willing to work as much as possible, because I learned quickly that I like money. No matter how much I have, I want more, but I also understood that I wasn't going to get rich flipping burgers and frying tots. * I know what a crazy idea right???* So I knew it was a means to an end. I went to school. I 'upgraded' to cooking in a restaurant for $7.25 an hour in 1999-2004. I took out student loans to help pay for school*again- crazzzzy idea right?* I graduated from school finally and got a job making just over $32 grand a year. It was fine, but I wanted more money- so I applied for other jobs that paid more and I got it *again...crazzy idea*. I had a job that was good, but I still didn't think I was making enough so I went back to school WHILE working 40+ hrs a week*another crazy idea* so I could better myself and once I graduated for that, I applied for jobs that made even more money and got it. I make a pretty decent salary now and I'm happy, but I want more just like you. The difference is that I had these crazy ideas where I KNEW that in order to have a better life I would have to work for it because no one was just going to give it to me.
Maybe that day off you took to protest would have been better served applying for better paying jobs, or listening to a instructor at a community college- all crazy ideas I know but sometimes those crazy ideas might just work.

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Posted by Jake Elliott on 09/17/2014 at 9:22 AM

Re: “Is Esmie Evil?

I hope she will recover in years to come, I have to beleive it is what her mother would have wanted for her. I think the drugs were the biggest problem going here. Good luck Esmie.

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Posted by Chris on 09/15/2014 at 11:04 AM

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