There is a reason the Z-Man is at the top of the article. Not saying these other sandhiches aren't good, but when you have had a Z-Man, you know that it stands above the rest. The perfectly smoked brisket, the smoked provolone cheese, the tangy sweet and spicy sauce, the warm bun, the cruchiness from the onion ring, and the bright acidity from the pickle. It is like bitting into happiness. :-)
Well I will just buy the property and put a small friendly neighborhood Drive In Theater there.
Here's one you or Charles need to check out:
La Hamburguesa Loca, 3009 Independence Ave, Kansas City, MO 64124
https://www.facebook.com/LaHamburguesaLoca
Everything we've had there has been good to excellent. First time I've ever had a burger with a slice of ham on it. I was a little skeptical, but it tasted really good. We try to eat there once a week.
Any sandwich from Orange Box, but for sure the Tenderloin
@Abe. You can find Pigwich's Philly in Charles Ferruzza's look at local renditions of out-of-town signature sandwiches. http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/favorite-r…
My favorites: Carollo's, The Peanut, Longboards
Need to try: Christy's, Monks
Should have had on the list: Pigwich, Falafel from Habashi House not Olive Cafe
Great list Jonathan, this is a assortment that will require research, with Sandy's and The Fish Market at the top of the agenda.
Your utter lack of ability to respond to a simple question speaks volumes perplexed. I've asked, you've chosen to dodge it. That pretty much says it all.
Again, what is an acceptable use to those who are opposing this proposed development? Are they afraid to be seen as potential hypocrites? It isn't a hard question to answer but for whatever reason no one will man or woman up and answer it.
Disgusted,
Once upon a time, a long, long time ago in a City called Prairie Village there were elected officials that met with said developer behind closed doors to discuss this project. I'm not sure what was promised to said developer, but I'm sure it must have been good, or said developer wouldn't have put his $4M into the site. This isn't the first time around the track for this said developer. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Now, fast forward several years later when the residents of Prairie Village discovered that we didn't have any recourse against any developers or their proposals. Hmmm. They said to themselves. Well, lo and behold the residents did their homework and discovered this thing called a protest petition. Upon discovery, they found out that every other city jurisdiction in the area has this protection~and it is Kansas state law! Huh, they said to themselves. We must go forth and protect ourselves. So they did.
Now, comes the time when the appointed officials and elected officials must decide whether or not to grant said developer a special use permit to change the zoning ordinance. If they have done their homework, and they are familiar with the Golden Factors, and they listen to the residents that elected them~they will in fact vote it down. Not because of only a few residents around this project, because it is the right thing to do and it does not fit in this neighborhood or in our tiny town called Prairie Village. Hopefully, we will all live happily ever after. Even you dear Disgusted.
Perplexed, hopefully you can answer my question, what is an acceptable use to the small number of neighbors who are next to the property? Like I've already said a couple of times the council will probably vote this down. Assuming that happens what is acceptable so the next poor sucker who spends more than $4M on a piece of land has an idea of what they can do with it.
Clearly Gulliver and Disgusted don't really understand the scope of this project. How they can compare this to a CVS store doesn't make any sense. This project is 387,000 square feet! There is nothing like it in our City! How this will make it appealing for families to movie to our area also doesn't make any sense. Finally, the neighbors around Benton House didn't have the availability of the protest petition. This building went up without the neighbors having any say so whatsoever. Also, the Benton House hold approximately 80 residents. This monstrosity will hold 450.
I'm also curious as to why no one has discussed the low ratings of the Tutera Group properties (nursing homes). You should check out his Meridian property in Wichita, KS. It is his only Kansas nursing home on the Medicare website. Most of his properties rate below average and many in the well below. It is not anyplace I would want a loved one to live~EVER. The reason his other properties are not listed is because his independent living and assisted living properties aren't inspected and rated like nursing homes.
Then, there are the Golden Factors...please educate yourself when talking about this issue.
Disgusted, I can agree with your post 100%. I too have no vested interest in this, except for wishing the tax base to be expanded, but the one thing you have to admire is the savvy with which the NIMBYs have approached it. I suspect we have people in marketing, in consulting, no doubt a lawyer (or several) in this group. The one thing that gets me is the use of MASSIVE (and huge, giant, etc.), because this is no more massive than the CVS is a big box store, to cite a recent example. I wonder where all these people were when the plans were made for the facility at the corner of Belinder and Somerset. The answer is that their oxen weren't being gored then, so they didn't care. This is classic hypocrisy, but it doesn't matter. That one is done, and the proposed one is on life support, not long for this world.
Gulliver, they don't want the face the truth that this more about class than anything else Not once has anyone expressed concern for those who live in the apartments to the north or west of the site instead we're arguing around the impacts to 6-8 homes.
For the record I live in PV, not in the area around MV. I have zero financial interest except hoping to see a large piece of land in our city redeveloped in a way that provides long term financial benefit to our city. I do not work in construction, long term care, or real estate. So anyone who wants to imply otherwise can step off.
Also I'm disgusted because NO ONE from MVNA will even begin to say what they would consider an acceptable proposal to use that land. WHY WILL NO ONE ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION?!?!? I say because they are afraid to. Chickens
Unfortunately the recent history in PV says that we won't do things that will bring to our city or increase our tax base or make it attractive to families. But if you dare to say that the NIMBY crowd jumps out of the wood work. We have the city council we deserve and it isn't one that is going to take bold action on anything.
Hey, perplexed, I don't know who is for it, if anyone in PV, and I never said I did. I said the majority could care less. The point is that the neighbors and maybe a few others don't want it so it won't happen. By the way, what do those in the proximity stand to lose? There is plenty of space here for this proposal and you would hardly know it was there, except when those rowdy seniors had MASSIVE keg parties, with all of their senior friends coming over and parking on the street, peeing on lawns, and making a nuisance of themselves.
Anonymous Tutera Group machine, employees, family, friends, potential contractors, public relations company, "residents" of their "family" facilities...tisk, tisk.
Anonymous council people posting! Tisk tisk!
Gulliver Foyle, Jr. So, what you are saying is that the people that oppose this complex are NIMBY's but the people that are for it...are what? We'll just call them the developers and those that will make a significant profit off of it. You obviously weren't at the meeting on Tuesday night. There were a lot of people there that were opposed to the project that don't live in that vicinity. In fact, most of the people that were proponents of the complex don't even live in our City. So, wouldn't it be appropriate that those that live around the proposed complex, are those that have the most to lose, are one families displaying the signs in their yards to show their opposition? Sadly, I agree with you that most of the residents just don't care. I find that to be most unfortunate.
I think disgusted in pv pretty much nails it. Sure, you see a fair amount of signs, but you see very few except close to the proposed development. I live in Prairie Village and don't think the overwhelming majority of the citizens care one way or another, but those very loud NIMBYs are going to carry the day because the council will cave. If those people had their way, they would get rid of the nearby apartments, but they can't figure out a way to do so. The one thing you can say is that we don't need any more mcmansions on huge lots, but that's what the neighbors are going to end up with.
Hey Disgusted, I never said that his vote counts because it doesn't. My point is that while it may have been a legal donation, it shows that there is a "relationship" between the Mayor and the law firm that is representing the developer. I believe that it is a huge conflict of interest with an appearance of impropriety.
If the Council votes this down it is because they are representing the residents of Prairie Village and not the developer. It is the residents that voted all of the Council in to represent them and their best interest. This massive development is not in the interest of anybody but the developer who stands to make millions and millions of dollars~while inevitably costing the residents a loss of money with regard to their property values and the increase in services that will be required to handle such an enormous complex.
Re: “With Google putting Fiber in Austin, Kansas City Startup Village confronts an uncertain future”
Well there is one legit entrepreneur.. a lone wolf amidst a pack of sheep who has in fact built and sold a company..
As for the rest of the KCSV?
Ehh, revenge of the nerds.. Bunch of the unpopular kids getting together to bask in their apparent mediocrity. Not quite a stage four support group but nowhere near a Silicon Valley genesis..
Are they sheep trying their hardest not to appear desperate as they clamor to an imprimatur that's run it's course?
Where to start..
The dad, a CFO at a big KC law firm, pays for the sons play time in one of the above mentioned startups.
Another dad, who inherited oil money, pays for another 40 something yo sons play time in another startup which attracted investment from a KC 'venture capital' firm probably because the dad is a limited partner in the fund.
[Ssshhh.. No one say anything about the sons previous endeavor, the startup that dare not speak its name (reference another Pitch article: a million little pixels).] Kinda like the dad who agrees to buy the little-league team jerseys if they put the son in center field.
Incidentally, this same fund supposedly 'sold' a company to a well known search engine, for how much? (Crickets chirping). So what, it was a mercy killing - way to save the day Mr. Silicon Valley search engine.
Yes, it was a mercey killing. Doesn't stop the former CEO of this company (former carpet salesman now an 'entrepreneur in residence') from running around the circuit playing Yoda - giving advice to would be founders. Founders who would do well to ask Yoda "how many companies have you personally started?" And "how many companies have you personally raised money for?" [and no, running to the ex-telecom execs (who hired you) for more tokens after getting rejected by a couple hundred venture capitalists doesn't count as a cap raise]
Btw, who's the cute one - the sausage king of the nerds? The dashing young prince from back east - the one who sent an email to "the village" along with a threat to pack up and leave unless several thousand dollars were deposited into his exchequer.
All the makings of a farce.. Three amigos comes to mind. Actors pretending to be real cowboys? Guess we'll see.