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Re: “All in a family: John the Baptist, Suco the chimp, and the largest false-claims tax-fraud case in Missouri history

NO....this isn't the same Oyer family that had the music and dance studio in Northeast!

Posted by Scarfoot on 08/22/2015 at 4:16 PM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

Is there any way we can overturn the City Council vote with a voter petition? Thanks to the last city election turnout all you have to do is have your extended family sign the petition and you're good to go.

Posted by marksnelson on 08/19/2015 at 5:13 PM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

Wink,

You asked, "What business owner WANTS to finance his competitor?" None, but I would ask. "What business owner should be COMPELLED BY LAW to finance his competitor?" IMHO I don't think anyone would find that reasonable.

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Posted by R-Truth on 08/18/2015 at 1:00 PM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

Wink,

Good analogy. But at least those are private transactions. The franchisee has the right to terminate their relationship with CarStar, pursuant to the terms of their contract. But the hotels subsidizing the Hyatt are compelled by law to subsidize the Hyatt.

There is no way to opt-out of the Convention and Tourism tax. The full weight of the government compels a business to act against their best interest.

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Posted by R-Truth on 08/18/2015 at 12:58 PM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

R-Truth, I have seen a simular tactic with the Carstar collision group.

An established body shop owner buys into the Carstar franchise hoping to grow his business, and starts paying the monthly franchise fees.

Along comes an upstart wanting to open his own shop down the street from said Carstar, and compete with him.

Carstar will finance this upstart....which basically means the guy that is currently operating a Carstar shop has just had HIS franchise fee spent on financing his competitor to get started.

What business owner WANTS to finance his competitor?

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Posted by Wink Dinklemeyer on 08/18/2015 at 8:09 AM

Re: “Melissa Stevens – heir to the Patricia Stevens Modeling School – refuses to be forgotten

I was a Patricia Stevens but my parents could never afford to send me there :(n

Posted by Tricia Ann Stevens-Nolan on 08/15/2015 at 10:51 AM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

James Gallo,

You are partially correct. What is scary is that this is not Free-Market. They are taking from Hilton, Marriott, Wyndham businesses to pay for a Hyatt. Now does that seem right? Should Wyndham have to pay for a competitor, without any choice? See my post at 8:32.

Posted by R-Truth on 08/14/2015 at 9:04 AM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

Luke B,

There is a relative shortage of hotel rooms in the metro area. We have about a 4% higher occupancy rate than competing markets. That is why you are seeing private money coming in to build new hotels in Kansas City. These hotels are generally in the 120-180 room range. You hardly see private money build 1000 room hotels. The reason is their inflexibility. Revenue per Available Room (RevPAR) is a very important metric, and if you have 1000 rooms, you have alot of vacant (but still AVAILABLE) rooms. With a 120-180 room hotel, I can put a no-walk rate of say $69 to entice 15 walkins per night (increasing my occupancy 10%) where a 1000 room hotel would have to entice 100 walkins to achieve that same 10% increase in occupancy.

So yes there is a *shortage* in Kansas City, and that need is being filled by smaller more flexible hotels. I believe there is a Hampton being built downtown, a couple of refurbishments, and even a new Marriott property(?). All of these are less than 200 rooms and much easier to make money on.

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Posted by R-Truth on 08/14/2015 at 8:53 AM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

I have personally notified the owners of two large area hotels. They are "flagged hotels" meaning they fly under the flag of a competitor of Hyatt.

I informed the owners that they would be paying for the new 1000 room Hyatt, which they would be competing for business with. They said "No we aren't". I said "Yes you are". I explained that financing will come from the Convention and Tourism tax that your customers pay. The owners were flabbergasted. They are out of town owners, based in New York. They started talking about how at 17-20% (depending where you are located) Kansas City has the 2nd or 3rd highest hotel tax in the United States. They explained how this hurts their customer satisfaction surveys because a guest that books a $100 soon finds it costs $120 at checkout. I explained how 8% of that 20% tax goes to Convention and Tourism tax.

So the very charges that are upsetting their guests, are going to build a new COMPETING hotel downtown. One of the owners didn't believe me and called the Lodging Association. The Lodging Association confirmed what I said, but said they SUPPORT the new hotel.

Point of the story is that if Mr. Kemper and those against the hotel want to make a change. They might start with informing the owners of current hotels. To "Flagged hotels" the only thing that matters, other than profit, is the survey scores. And they take a BEATING from the high taxes in KC. And that's fine, until they are getting beat up to help build a Hyatt.

So Show-me Institute and Mr. Kemper, want to make a change? Drop $60 on 120 stamps, and send a mailer to the owners of record here in KC and see if there isn't some upset owners calling the Lodging Association.

You can't just assume these owners know this stuff, because they don't. That is a fact.

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Posted by R-Truth on 08/14/2015 at 8:32 AM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

You must first build the hotel before you can read what's in the report.

- Nancy Pelosi

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Posted by kcjoe on 08/13/2015 at 10:39 AM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

RichiePoor - if they were traditional old school pimps you're get biyatch slapped for even writing a post.

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Posted by It'sMrShaft2U on 08/13/2015 at 4:11 AM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

You can't criticize Not So Sly James....he's black ..... which would make you a racist. Haven't you learned anything from the last 7 years with Oblunder?

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Posted by It'sAllWhitePeoplesFault on 08/13/2015 at 4:08 AM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

8/13/2015

Gotta really like the latest KCMO City Fiasco, with Mayor Sly James Street Car / TOY Train .

Absolutely Pathetic !

TOY TRAIN FIASCO : http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/city-d…

I even posted on here months ago, it'd turn out to be a Fiasco !

and their worried about a Convention Hotel, why they can't even manage a Lemonade stand without screwing it up !!

I see already some of the "Liberal" media news sites ae burying the story to cover for Mayor Sly James - KCTV5 has now buried the story deep somewhere in their web site , gotta look hard now, no longer front story news as it should be !!!

Anything to keep the voters clueless and in the dark about It !!

Just like this Hotel will be and that new supposed Airport !

Everything these Liberal Idiots do down there at KCMO City hall turns out o be a Disaster and failure & Fiasco ,costing Tax Payers, 1 way or the other eventually.

Thru the years / Decades

18th Vine Failure

The River Quay Market Failure twice rebuilt, once in the 1980's and once in the 1990's and now turned into Lofts

Sprint Center Fiasco which is costing tax payers as reported earlier here by the Pitch !

Union Station Fiasco, which went thru major Renovation in late 1990's, and opened in the early 2000's and seems to have Fizzled out the last 5 years .

KCMO can't keep water flowing to Tax Paying citizens - Water Main Breaks constantly !

City Council members Fiasco almost yearly like misfits from Mchales Navy !

and wasn't their a Vote taken n this TOY Train and Voters voted NO and Sly went ahead anyway !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

when are the people of this city going get their heads out of their asses an realize their being fleeced by these crooks who have infiltrated city hall !

Won't be long this city will resemble Detroit another Liberal run Disaster !!

Street car Fiasco Delay : http://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/city-d…


Wouldn't be surprised to find out, its more KCMO faultthan the Manufacturer of the street cars, City hall blowing excuses to cover their ass to buy time most likely !!

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Posted by Crazy Clown on 08/13/2015 at 1:26 AM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

Steve,
How does total hotel room capacity compare between the cities mentioned? I have always heard that KC has a hotel room shortage but I have no reference source besides rumor.
-Luke B

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Posted by Luke B on 08/12/2015 at 8:08 PM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

Anybody need some juked facts and data to shove some boondoggle project down taxpayers throats?

Email me at jukedataforpimps@fools.com.

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Posted by Paid 'whore' Expert on 08/12/2015 at 1:58 PM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

Great work, Mr. V. Now if only voters would read it. I have to say, I'm thankful I don't live in KC. And I'm sorry for those who do and have to put up with such special interest BS.

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Posted by Bob on 08/12/2015 at 1:33 PM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

Nedward - you are far too literal; the point of my original comment, buttressed by my second, is exactly the fact that KC taxpayers have been promised multiple times over multiple years that multiple projects would NOT be financed by them, only to wake up multiple times to the fact that, yep, they are indeed paying for the developers & pols ineptitude, not to mention a disingenuous edging over into dishonesty...

Or, put another way: Hey - you need a bridge?

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Posted by Nick2 on 08/12/2015 at 12:13 PM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

What we have in Kansas City is a group of politicians who are little more than professional pimps out to fleece tax payers. Too bad they're not traditional pimps then they could at least rent out all the vacant hotel space to clientele.

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Posted by richiepoor on 08/12/2015 at 11:35 AM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

Nick - KCI isn't going to paid for by tax funds. I quit reading your post after that.

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Posted by Nedward Goatee on 08/12/2015 at 11:13 AM

Re: “Kansas City wants to keep a convention center consultant's report buried

Steve, are you telling me they've been spending money on this BEFORE it was APPROVED?!

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Posted by devon on 08/12/2015 at 10:45 AM

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