Loft living is basically "Downtown KC Living" you just have to make up your mind that it will be full of noise, people up at all hours of the night, police sirens, homeless people, pan handling, smog, stalkers, etc. that's why it's called Downtown living in the first place. ..... get use to it or leave.
Anyone who lives or works downtown Kansas City knows that panhandlers are a problem. The 10th and Main bus stop is full of people asking for bus transfers or money for meals.
Anyone who lives or works downtown Kansas City knows that panhandlers are a problem. The 10th and Main bus stop is full of people asking for bus transfers or money for meals.
I think if you read the comments people ARE leaving the Downtown area. Most are just waiting for their lease to expire. I'm sure they won't be back since they were part of those crime statistics that you mentioned.
I think if you read the comments people ARE leaving the Downtown area. Most are just waiting for their lease to expire. I'm sure they won't be back since they were part of those crime statistics that you mentioned.
As a lifetime Kansas City, MO resident, I am honestly shocked by these comments; with the notable exception of Michael's. Each time I've considered a move to a new area, I've checked out kcmo.org and checked out the crime stats for that area. If you don't like what you see, don't move there. If you have a problem with urban living, then don't live in the urban core. If you are truly frightened of a panhandler, cross the street to avoid him or her. This is not a difficult concept and surely not a deterrent to those who are aware of their surroundings. So, quit your complaining and move elsewhere.
As a lifetime Kansas City, MO resident, I am honestly shocked by these comments; with the notable exception of Michael's. Each time I've considered a move to a new area, I've checked out kcmo.org and checked out the crime stats for that area. If you don't like what you see, don't move there. If you have a problem with urban living, then don't live in the urban core. If you are truly frightened of a panhandler, cross the street to avoid him or her. This is not a difficult concept and surely not a deterrent to those who are aware of their surroundings. So, quit your complaining and move elsewhere.
"The panhandling and loitering problems that had plagued the library area are all but gone." Matthew you have to be BLIND or never leave your Loft, If you think a statement like that is true. Hey Kansas City just go down to the Arcade across from the Bus stop to check out the FACTS. Just walk around for 10 minutes to see if your not ask for money for a meal or for a bus transfer. Then come back in a couple of days and you will see the SAME PERSON needing help again. Like Duh.
My mistake .......it's Matthew not Steve. Numbers still apply 1 to 16.
"Feel free to challenge them"...... OK Steve's positive comments=1 ....... the others residents living downtown with negative comments=16.
"The panhandling and loitering problems that had plagued the library area are all but gone." Matthew you have to be BLIND or never leave your Loft, If you think a statement like that is true. Hey Kansas City just go down to the Arcade across from the Bus stop to check out the FACTS. Just walk around for 10 minutes to see if your not ask for money for a meal or for a bus transfer. Then come back in a couple of days and you will see the SAME PERSON needing help again. Like Duh.
My mistake .......it's Matthew not Steve. Numbers still apply 1 to 16.
"Feel free to challenge them"...... OK Steve's positive comments=1 ....... the others residents living downtown with negative comments=16.
Nope. I'm a downtown resident with absolutely no ties to developers whatsoever. My facts check out -- feel free to challenge them.
Nope. I'm a downtown resident with absolutely no ties to developers whatsoever. My facts check out -- feel free to challenge them.
Matthew's comments sound more like a real estate developer or an investors sales pitch than like someone who ACTUALLY lives downtown.
Matthew's comments sound more like a real estate developer or an investors sales pitch than like someone who ACTUALLY lives downtown.
While there are some legitimate concerns regarding the Library Lofts, both the article and the comments are filled with a significant amount of misinformation.
First of all, there haven't been burglary issues since the arrest was made. The way the murder was portrayed in this article was particularly irresponsible. It was a domestic dispute, the likes of which happen everywhere, where the man's girlfriend came for him. It had NOTHING to do with any sort of common key situation as he came outside to speak with her and the incident happened outside on the street. This situation had nothing to do with downtown or the Library Lofts.
In terms of crime, you do hear more about some property crime downtown but it has diminished significantly. The Downtown Community Improvement District has made huge strides since they were put in place and have made downtown much safer and more hospitable. The panhandling and loitering problems that had plagued the library area are all but gone. Street life, in terms of people walking around, has increased significantly as more buildings have been converted, many to lofts with financially stable owners in lieu of renters.
If you really believe that downtown is unsafe, back up your claim by looking at the statistics. Downtown is among the safer places in the city. Violent crime is virtually non-existent in the downtown area, comparable to places in Johnson County. Keep in mind also that downtown is a dense area, so even the less than 1% of people that have an issue is a significant number that leads to a perception that the area is unsafe. Your chances of having a problem with crime are statistically insignificant.
Also, to those posting that there is nothing open at night and there are no options for groceries and food -- it is time to take another look. Downtown living is more than a place to live, it is a lifestyle decision. In the City Market, one can find absolutely everything you need: produce, milk, eggs, meat, bread, seasonings, etc. Downtowners are also surrounded by a growing restaurant scene that is adding new choices once a month. While it isn't hopping, downtown certainly isn't dead and it will take people catching on to the new reality and supporting these places for it to succeed. Too many downtowners try to live in a vacuum. If you want to drive in, park, go inside and then not leave until the next morning to do it all over again, downtown living isn't for you.
I certainly value a critical eye on downtown projects and Library Lofts certainly has opportunities to improve (it is probably the worst building in downtown), but this article was irresponsible and the comments were misinformed. I'd encourage people to check out other properties (particularly the River Market) and get the facts about downtown.
While there are some legitimate concerns regarding the Library Lofts, both the article and the comments are filled with a significant amount of misinformation.
First of all, there haven't been burglary issues since the arrest was made. The way the murder was portrayed in this article was particularly irresponsible. It was a domestic dispute, the likes of which happen everywhere, where the man's girlfriend came for him. It had NOTHING to do with any sort of common key situation as he came outside to speak with her and the incident happened outside on the street. This situation had nothing to do with downtown or the Library Lofts.
In terms of crime, you do hear more about some property crime downtown but it has diminished significantly. The Downtown Community Improvement District has made huge strides since they were put in place and have made downtown much safer and more hospitable. The panhandling and loitering problems that had plagued the library area are all but gone. Street life, in terms of people walking around, has increased significantly as more buildings have been converted, many to lofts with financially stable owners in lieu of renters.
If you really believe that downtown is unsafe, back up your claim by looking at the statistics. Downtown is among the safer places in the city. Violent crime is virtually non-existent in the downtown area, comparable to places in Johnson County. Keep in mind also that downtown is a dense area, so even the less than 1% of people that have an issue is a significant number that leads to a perception that the area is unsafe. Your chances of having a problem with crime are statistically insignificant.
Also, to those posting that there is nothing open at night and there are no options for groceries and food -- it is time to take another look. Downtown living is more than a place to live, it is a lifestyle decision. In the City Market, one can find absolutely everything you need: produce, milk, eggs, meat, bread, seasonings, etc. Downtowners are also surrounded by a growing restaurant scene that is adding new choices once a month. While it isn't hopping, downtown certainly isn't dead and it will take people catching on to the new reality and supporting these places for it to succeed. Too many downtowners try to live in a vacuum. If you want to drive in, park, go inside and then not leave until the next morning to do it all over again, downtown living isn't for you.
I certainly value a critical eye on downtown projects and Library Lofts certainly has opportunities to improve (it is probably the worst building in downtown), but this article was irresponsible and the comments were misinformed. I'd encourage people to check out other properties (particularly the River Market) and get the facts about downtown.
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Loft living is basically "Downtown KC Living" you just have to make up your mind that it will be full of noise, people up at all hours of the night, police sirens, homeless people, pan handling, smog, stalkers, etc. that's why it's called Downtown living in the first place.
..... get use to it or leave.