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Re: “A Doggone Drag

This is unbelievable. After 5 years of not making money but continuing to get bigger and bigger with NO sponsorships other than small (mainly friends and acquantances) giving donations to help push it a long and many people not being paid but forgiving, for the dogs, in the past why would you go bigger and bigger with no donation money still? Corporations donate to not-for-profits that do the work, fill out the paperwork and do the dance. Sitting around waiting for someone to hand you something doesn't fit the bill.

Maybe it is sad that you have to play a corporations game and show them a game plan in writing, but we are all responsible for being good stewards of what we are given whether an individual or a corporation. Throwing good money after bad with no actual game plan or budget in action, which does not feed or provide medical care to the dogs, is probably not where a major sponsor wants to place their money.

Ownership of ones actions is a good and moral trait regardless of your beliefs, position in life or faith. It does not sound like ANYONE involved is taking ownership for anything. There are definately two sides to every story but when no-one takes any blame and only points fingers and cries out for pity, its absolute no-one is credible. Pity of ones self or ones situation does no-one any good. Sounds like some people need to take a real long hard look in the mirror and get real with themselves and the pie in the sky thinking that the big break is going to come along.

Posted by Unbelievable on 10/03/2007 at 1:07 PM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

To "Unbelievable", It is so easy to post suppositions, rumors and fabrications when you remain anonymous. Had you read and comprehended this forum and it's posts, you would realize I take full financial responsibility for Dogstock despite any extenuating circumstances. Your other comments are suppositions at best. I am ill and very tired of this, but I must soldier on to whatever conclusion develops. Regardless of everything, our top priority at AARF is to care for and rehabilitate the dogs in our care, place those we can, and work out arrangements with debtors. Responding further to innuendo here is fruitless. Thankfully, there are many who have said it better than I could anyway. As for pity, I pity those who have so hollow a life they must attack others without any actual first hand information to improve their pitiful self image.

Posted by Randy Long on 10/03/2007 at 11:35 AM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

This is unbelievable. After 5 years of not making money but continuing to get bigger and bigger with NO sponsorships other than small (mainly friends and acquantances) giving donations to help push it a long and many people not being paid but forgiving, for the dogs, in the past why would you go bigger and bigger with no donation money still? Corporations donate to not-for-profits that do the work, fill out the paperwork and do the dance. Sitting around waiting for someone to hand you something doesn't fit the bill. Maybe it is sad that you have to play a corporations game and show them a game plan in writing, but we are all responsible for being good stewards of what we are given whether an individual or a corporation. Throwing good money after bad with no actual game plan or budget in action, which does not feed or provide medical care to the dogs, is probably not where a major sponsor wants to place their money. Ownership of ones actions is a good and moral trait regardless of your beliefs, position in life or faith. It does not sound like ANYONE involved is taking ownership for anything. There are definately two sides to every story but when no-one takes any blame and only points fingers and cries out for pity, its absolute no-one is credible. Pity of ones self or ones situation does no-one any good. Sounds like some people need to take a real long hard look in the mirror and get real with themselves and the pie in the sky thinking that the big break is going to come along.

Posted by Unbelievable on 10/03/2007 at 10:07 AM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

Well, now I see the lord Jesus has sent in a comment, and it is really one that don't make any sense. You see, if you have a place where pets are being cared for you surely need some form of communication. You know most people wish the Long's the best, because they took on a major task to take care of these wonderful animals, not many people dedicate their lives to something like this. I agree, they made a mistake hooking up with a partner in the festival. Most know partners in that type of event normally don't work out. Well dear lord, or Jesus, instead of firing this kind of comment, step forward with some help for the dogs, or step down from your throne, and shut-up.

Posted by music friend on 10/03/2007 at 2:09 AM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

if the long's are so broke, how do they afford the internet to keep posting comments on this thing?

talk is cheap, there is now a whole new meaning to that phrase now...

Posted by jesus on 10/03/2007 at 1:23 AM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

Well, now I see the lord Jesus has sent in a comment, and it is really one that don't make any sense. You see, if you have a place where pets are being cared for you surely need some form of communication. You know most people wish the Long's the best, because they took on a major task to take care of these wonderful animals, not many people dedicate their lives to something like this. I agree, they made a mistake hooking up with a partner in the festival. Most know partners in that type of event normally don't work out. Well dear lord, or Jesus, instead of firing this kind of comment, step forward with some help for the dogs, or step down from your throne, and shut-up.

Posted by music friend on 10/02/2007 at 11:09 PM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

if the long's are so broke, how do they afford the internet to keep posting comments on this thing? talk is cheap, there is now a whole new meaning to that phrase now...

Posted by jesus on 10/02/2007 at 10:23 PM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

I was there for the second year vending our tie-dyes. My wife and I leave the kids at grandmas and get to kick up our heals a bit. So you can see I'm already a bit biased. I just love this festival and I love dogs. Was anyone else at this festival Saturday. What an incredible evening of music, especially the Kim Manning Project. Thank you to all of the people that worked there asses off to make that night happen. We met some wonderful people and reunited with some wonderful people, Super Dave especially, that we had met the year before. As far as the postings on here about who's at fault and all, I know nothing and really don't have anything to add. I just thought that these comments needed more love. I sure hope that everything works out. You know the saying "don't sweat the small stuff and it's all small stuff". Hang in there Randy

Posted by Todd on 10/01/2007 at 4:36 PM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

I was there for the second year vending our tie-dyes. My wife and I leave the kids at grandmas and get to kick up our heals a bit. So you can see I'm already a bit biased. I just love this festival and I love dogs. Was anyone else at this festival Saturday. What an incredible evening of music, especially the Kim Manning Project. Thank you to all of the people that worked there asses off to make that night happen. We met some wonderful people and reunited with some wonderful people, Super Dave especially, that we had met the year before. As far as the postings on here about who's at fault and all, I know nothing and really don't have anything to add. I just thought that these comments needed more love. I sure hope that everything works out. You know the saying "don't sweat the small stuff and it's all small stuff". Hang in there Randy

Posted by Todd on 10/01/2007 at 1:36 PM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

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Posted by Ed on 09/30/2007 at 3:45 PM

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Posted by Ed on 09/30/2007 at 12:45 PM

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This whole debacle has been very unfortunate for all parties involved. That being said I would like to point out several things that came to mind after I read this article and the ensuing comments:

1. All of the checks issued to cover the costs associated with Dogstock 5 were signed by Randy Long. The same is true of all contracts. Every single band that played the event and every employee that worked at the festival received a bad check. NOT ONE PERSON that I am aware of received monetary compensation. This constitutes fraud, plain and simple.

2. Regardless of what anybody says there were not more than 1,000 people at the event. The idea that there was a huge contingent of folks hiding out in the woods for the duration of the festival is ludicrous.

3. The fact that tickets were initially sold as "buy one, get two free" is worth noting as even in the best case scenario this wouldn't raise nearly enough money to offset the costs of a festival with five stages and 100+ bands.

4. "Noble says Dogstock's success depended too much on ticket sales." I can't imagine any knowledgeable promoter making this statement while keeping a straight face. The financial success of virtually every event is contingent upon strong ticket sales. The only exception that is even remotely possible is a festival that is underwritten by a sponsor with deep pockets. Obviously this wasn't the case.

5. The only people that truly know why Noble no longer works for Wakarusa is Noble and a few people within the Waka organization. Anything else stated is nothing more than rumors. Just because you saw Noble handing someone a VIP wristband does not mean he was stealing bracelets.

6. The areas where catered food was being served had no running water which is a clear violation of health codes. The fact that credentials weren't laminated is laughable.

7. Golf carts at a smaller sized festival such as this one are pointless and a waste of resources. I timed the walk between the main stage and the farthest placed side stage and it was not more than 3 minutes.

8. This post is worth quoting again: "I do know one thing... if Noble and Long are dumb enough to air out accusations on a public forum with lawsuits and legal proceedings in the near future, well, it's no surprise the festival was a failure. I can only imagine neither one of you has secured legal counsel. Lionel Hutz could even tell you that your ramblings on the message board over the past week is completely stupid and can only hurt your legal standing." I couldn't have said it better although I feel that Mr. Hutz is a both a fine lawyer and drug keeper away-er.

9. Bands that pulled out of the festival were listed on the website for weeks and even months after it was clear they would not be playing the event. You can't hide behind the "acts are subject to change" one-liner when removing the band's name off the website would take less than 10 seconds. I've never seen a clearer case of false advertising.

10. The bottom line is that the whole event from start to finish was a huge trainwreck. Clearly poor management along with big egos and short-sighted planning played a large role in the downfall of this festival. It's too bad as approximately 80 dogs, over 100 bands, and who knows how many hard working folks were left holding the bag. Shame on Randy and Noble both. They can blame whomever they want but the bottom line is that they both fucked up big time. Only time will tell if they will attempt to make things right but somehow I doubt it.

Only my two cents folks, take it for what it's worth.

Posted by Charles Hatfield on 09/29/2007 at 6:10 AM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

This whole debacle has been very unfortunate for all parties involved. That being said I would like to point out several things that came to mind after I read this article and the ensuing comments: 1. All of the checks issued to cover the costs associated with Dogstock 5 were signed by Randy Long. The same is true of all contracts. Every single band that played the event and every employee that worked at the festival received a bad check. NOT ONE PERSON that I am aware of received monetary compensation. This constitutes fraud, plain and simple. 2. Regardless of what anybody says there were not more than 1,000 people at the event. The idea that there was a huge contingent of folks hiding out in the woods for the duration of the festival is ludicrous. 3. The fact that tickets were initially sold as "buy one, get two free" is worth noting as even in the best case scenario this wouldn't raise nearly enough money to offset the costs of a festival with five stages and 100+ bands. 4. "Noble says Dogstock's success depended too much on ticket sales." I can't imagine any knowledgeable promoter making this statement while keeping a straight face. The financial success of virtually every event is contingent upon strong ticket sales. The only exception that is even remotely possible is a festival that is underwritten by a sponsor with deep pockets. Obviously this wasn't the case. 5. The only people that truly know why Noble no longer works for Wakarusa is Noble and a few people within the Waka organization. Anything else stated is nothing more than rumors. Just because you saw Noble handing someone a VIP wristband does not mean he was stealing bracelets. 6. The areas where catered food was being served had no running water which is a clear violation of health codes. The fact that credentials weren't laminated is laughable. 7. Golf carts at a smaller sized festival such as this one are pointless and a waste of resources. I timed the walk between the main stage and the farthest placed side stage and it was not more than 3 minutes. 8. This post is worth quoting again: "I do know one thing... if Noble and Long are dumb enough to air out accusations on a public forum with lawsuits and legal proceedings in the near future, well, it's no surprise the festival was a failure. I can only imagine neither one of you has secured legal counsel. Lionel Hutz could even tell you that your ramblings on the message board over the past week is completely stupid and can only hurt your legal standing." I couldn't have said it better although I feel that Mr. Hutz is a both a fine lawyer and drug keeper away-er. 9. Bands that pulled out of the festival were listed on the website for weeks and even months after it was clear they would not be playing the event. You can't hide behind the "acts are subject to change" one-liner when removing the band's name off the website would take less than 10 seconds. I've never seen a clearer case of false advertising. 10. The bottom line is that the whole event from start to finish was a huge trainwreck. Clearly poor management along with big egos and short-sighted planning played a large role in the downfall of this festival. It's too bad as approximately 80 dogs, over 100 bands, and who knows how many hard working folks were left holding the bag. Shame on Randy and Noble both. They can blame whomever they want but the bottom line is that they both fucked up big time. Only time will tell if they will attempt to make things right but somehow I doubt it. Only my two cents folks, take it for what it's worth.

Posted by Charles Hatfield on 09/29/2007 at 3:10 AM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

Joshua

First off, let me say, do you think Randy just made up the allegations he has stated?
Also, desperate man? Yes. But why?
Are you smart enough to know what kind of stress Randy and Susie are feeling?
Do you have any kind of idea what it�s like to care so much for someone or something
other than yourself to try and do what they do on a daily basis in caring for these dogs?
Don�t you think it�s silly to state things like:
Eric, Dan, myself and many more would have been happy to step up and help make this bad situation better.
When did that ever even enter any of your heads?
And further more, yes I do expect you and all others who have a heart to send money to help.
Better late than never!
You can�t tell me you and Eric and Dan had no fun or games or drugs or alcohol during dogstock just like
a lot of the other attendees.
Finally, Randy has stated over and over again that all he owes will be paid! He is working as hard as he
can to make it all good. Give him a break! If he were capable of performing miracles on demand, none
of this would be happening to start with! He can only do so much each day. He is dealing with a potentially serious medical issue along with all this and his wife being barely able to function thanks to a drunk driver who has yet been punished as he should.
Just how much do you feel Randy and Susie should suffer just because someone you know has been called some names based on what others have told them?
One more thing. Just who are :

the many in the business

Can we have their names and contact info so we can talk with them about it directly?

Stella

Posted by Stella on 09/27/2007 at 11:04 PM

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Open Letter To All Dogstock Creditors,

I apologize for not being in touch before now if you haven't heard from me, as well as for checks which did not clear, or bills not yet paid. Once it was obvious those I mistakenly trusted weren't bringing the cash up we stopped writing checks.

I have been in and out of the hospital with some pretty serious health issues since last Friday. I missed the benefit some friends threw to help us make a dent in the Dogstock debt. Between the weather, the change in venue, and other factors beyond our control the festie tanked costing our friends a lot of money. In spite of all this I have attempted to defend my good name and the name of Dogstock as well as the foundation on this forum. In the midst of all this something good did happen.

We were contacted by a dog lover and music lover who is a professional fund raiser for non profits. She has been working tirelessly for days contacting potential donors to save our rescue sanctuary and pay off all these bills. She is a real go getter, and we pray for good things. The way I feel, I just hope I'll be around to see that happen.

Aside from our physical challenges, which are many, my wife Suzie and I are mentally and emotionally devastated. Believe what you will, but we have numerous witnesses to many thousands of dollars being pocketed by Eric Noble (the co-promoter) and some of his staff, as well as their drunken driving on golf carts, driving on hallucinagens, driving around selling drugs with CREW shirts on during their shifts, etc.

We regret more than anything hiring Eric Noble and his cohorts to help with this benefit for our dog rescue shelter. They did an awful lot to destroy it rather than moderately grow it as Suzie and I had planned. Frankly, had I listened to her they wouldn't have been involved. Others who knew noble's M.O. first hand from Wakarusa didn't tell me till the festival was over as they were afraid I would see their warnings as sour grapes.

Our fund raiser will be contacting all creditors soon to start working things out as the funds come in. Some names and addresses we don't have as the Sheriff's office kept all our check receipts from our duplicate checks as part of their investigation. Noble is also part of their investigation, of course. Some creditors had not yet been transcribed to the checkbook log. If you know anyone owed by us who has not been contacted please forward this to them.

Again, we acknowledge our responsibilities, regardless of the theft that occurred, and will do everything we can to make it up to everyone. It will take time, but we'll get it done. That said, I have to leave for more medical treatment. For those so inclined we would appreciate your thoughts and prayers as well as your continued patience.

Sincerely,

Randy Long
Akita Adoption and Rescue Foundation
www.akitarescue.info

Posted by Randy Long on 09/27/2007 at 9:55 PM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

Everyone,

What Joshua states implying our facts are erroneous re: wrecked golf carts with keys issued by noble and his staff, driving drunk, driving otherwise impaired, pocketing monies meant for the foundation, having sponsors make out checks to noble and never turning in the cash and other malfeasance is ridiculous. Most posts on this subject aren't from me or people I know. They saw what they saw. I saw what I saw. Security and catering saw what they saw as did all vendors and fans. Two of the carts issued to these children were wrecked! One dog was run over and killed and another was almost run over by staff. I would never seek assistance from those who helped make a mockery of our otherwise positive event.

That said, any help is appreciated and I appreciate Stella's suggestion. Anyone who wishes to help, please send your check or money order to:
Akita Adoption and Rescue Foundation
6206 E. 317th ST
Melvern, KS 66510

Thank You!

Posted by Randy Long on 09/27/2007 at 9:32 PM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

Stella,

Eric, Dan, myself and many more would have been happy to step up and help make this bad situation better. And I believe we could have, your idea of $20 from a thousand people is a good one.

But do you expect us to help when Randy has came out accusing all of us of being dishonest, drunk, thieves? He has chosen to alienate himself from the many in the business that know better than to believe these lies of a desperate man.

Take care!

Posted by Joshua on 09/27/2007 at 9:06 PM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

Joshua First off, let me say, do you think Randy just made up the allegations he has stated? Also, desperate man? Yes. But why? Are you smart enough to know what kind of stress Randy and Susie are feeling? Do you have any kind of idea what it’s like to care so much for someone or something other than yourself to try and do what they do on a daily basis in caring for these dogs? Don’t you think it’s silly to state things like: Eric, Dan, myself and many more would have been happy to step up and help make this bad situation better. When did that ever even enter any of your heads? And further more, yes I do expect you and all others who have a heart to send money to help. Better late than never! You can’t tell me you and Eric and Dan had no fun or games or drugs or alcohol during dogstock just like a lot of the other attendees. Finally, Randy has stated over and over again that all he owes will be paid! He is working as hard as he can to make it all good. Give him a break! If he were capable of performing miracles on demand, none of this would be happening to start with! He can only do so much each day. He is dealing with a potentially serious medical issue along with all this and his wife being barely able to function thanks to a drunk driver who has yet been punished as he should. Just how much do you feel Randy and Susie should suffer just because someone you know has been called some names based on what others have told them? One more thing. Just who are : the many in the business Can we have their names and contact info so we can talk with them about it directly? Stella

Posted by Stella on 09/27/2007 at 8:04 PM

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So far, the war of words continues and I have read no suggestions of a solution.
All of you out there who know Susie and Randy also know the dogs come first
and they come second in almost every case. So, what can we do to help? Who is
willing to help? Eric? Dan?
Does it make you all sleep better at night to mud sling?
Does it accomplish anything useful?
I doubt it.
If everyone would stop and think of how to turn the negative energy spent on all this
and do something worthwhile to help, we could all make a difference. It could help not
only the Longs and the dogs and horses and the bird, but it might make you feel good
about yourself. Lets all pull together and insure future dogstocks (which are a really
good time according to most paying customers) and do something like if a
thousand people sent just $20 some of the debt could be resolved.
There was no criminal intent on Randy�s part I assure you. In addition, he is not being charged as a drug dealer either. That�s silly! I don�t know if Eric stole money or not. I assume only he knows the answer to that. I do know he doesn�t seem to be stepping up to the plate to help with the mess left behind in Randy and Susie�s lap.
Come on people! Use your heads. As a person who lives paycheck to paycheck, I know
I can come up with at the very least $20! It is not wasted money! It�s a donation! It�s
tax deductible!
It would be the right thing to do!

Posted by Stella on 09/27/2007 at 7:16 PM

Re: “A Doggone Drag

Open Letter To All Dogstock Creditors, I apologize for not being in touch before now if you haven't heard from me, as well as for checks which did not clear, or bills not yet paid. Once it was obvious those I mistakenly trusted weren't bringing the cash up we stopped writing checks. I have been in and out of the hospital with some pretty serious health issues since last Friday. I missed the benefit some friends threw to help us make a dent in the Dogstock debt. Between the weather, the change in venue, and other factors beyond our control the festie tanked costing our friends a lot of money. In spite of all this I have attempted to defend my good name and the name of Dogstock as well as the foundation on this forum. In the midst of all this something good did happen. We were contacted by a dog lover and music lover who is a professional fund raiser for non profits. She has been working tirelessly for days contacting potential donors to save our rescue sanctuary and pay off all these bills. She is a real go getter, and we pray for good things. The way I feel, I just hope I'll be around to see that happen. Aside from our physical challenges, which are many, my wife Suzie and I are mentally and emotionally devastated. Believe what you will, but we have numerous witnesses to many thousands of dollars being pocketed by Eric Noble (the co-promoter) and some of his staff, as well as their drunken driving on golf carts, driving on hallucinagens, driving around selling drugs with CREW shirts on during their shifts, etc. We regret more than anything hiring Eric Noble and his cohorts to help with this benefit for our dog rescue shelter. They did an awful lot to destroy it rather than moderately grow it as Suzie and I had planned. Frankly, had I listened to her they wouldn't have been involved. Others who knew noble's M.O. first hand from Wakarusa didn't tell me till the festival was over as they were afraid I would see their warnings as sour grapes. Our fund raiser will be contacting all creditors soon to start working things out as the funds come in. Some names and addresses we don't have as the Sheriff's office kept all our check receipts from our duplicate checks as part of their investigation. Noble is also part of their investigation, of course. Some creditors had not yet been transcribed to the checkbook log. If you know anyone owed by us who has not been contacted please forward this to them. Again, we acknowledge our responsibilities, regardless of the theft that occurred, and will do everything we can to make it up to everyone. It will take time, but we'll get it done. That said, I have to leave for more medical treatment. For those so inclined we would appreciate your thoughts and prayers as well as your continued patience. Sincerely, Randy Long Akita Adoption and Rescue Foundation www.akitarescue.info

Posted by Randy Long on 09/27/2007 at 6:55 PM

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