This reminds me of why I do NOT contribute to that slimy radio station
Does it matter that Mayor Ron Shaffer was the recipient of a direct contribution from the Polsinelli firm? Other mayoral candidates in other surrounding cities didn’t receive a contribution from said firm; not Lenexa, not Leawood, not Mission, not Overland Park, not Westwood, not Roeland Park. Coincidence? I think not.
PV is losing families because we are making decisions to not do things that might actually attract them. We've killed the plan to build paths or widened sidewalks through the city. The first opportunity for large re-development in years is going to go down in flames because it isn't a school and the neighborhood is still butt hurt it was closed. We've decided not to fund a community center. And there are those that are determined to make it harder to modernize the older neighborhoods in the north of the city because we shouldn't alter what JC Nichols built more than 60 years ago. If the city isn't allowed to change to meet changing needs and expectations of its citizens it will go into decline. Unfortunately we seem to be determined to kill the city in order to save it. Good luck with that.
“It’s clear to me that you don’t care or want to work with the neighborhood,” said Satterlee. “I’m supposed to be excited about five acres of usable green space. My lot is three acres. That doesn't excite me.”
This comment speaks volumes about the people opposed to this. So far they have shown zero interest in saying what they consider acceptable just taking on dump on any idea that is floated.
MVNA has distributed hundreds of signs in opposition to this project. Just drive around Prairie Village and you will see the visible opposition. However, there are others that are opposed to this massive development as well. I'm not sure what he is basing this article and observation on. Perhaps he was being sarcastic?
This isn't about the Atriums. This isn't about Lucille. This is about an oversized project that doesn't belong in the middle of a residential neighborhood. It doesn't fit with its surrounding and goes against everything that Prairie Village is about. We are losing families. That is who we should be focusing on for the future of Prairie Village.
You have to admire this NIMBY crowd, because someone has advised them to hang their hopes on the MASSIVE HUGE DENSE development idea, even though it is none of these. Nothing will make them happy except, as they admit, school, church, or park or more huge houses, that when they see the plans, they will suddenly oppose. I live in Prairie Village and can confirm, we are currently well-stocked on churches, parks, schools, and large houses, but also that is true of senor living facilities. The fact is that those in the proximity hate the idea, and most of use could care less. I just want to know who came up with the choice of the word 'massive'. I bet it is one of those people living in a massive house, as in massive is okay for them, but not this development.
The residential rate for 3mb is $25 bucks a month and I would LOVE to have Google operate liNKCity and use Northtown as a testing ground. I can't wait to fire DirecTV, et al.
Sura 9:5
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
Even better is 8:12 in which it is commanded to behead the unbelievers
I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
Inshallah may Islam make itself known to the world inshallah
The biggest problem with this development is that the neighbors don't seem to understand that this property WILL change whether they like it or not. They have already shot down the potential to build a decent retail center that would have likely improved home values (similar to the Village Shops) when they defeated the zoning change. So now this is the only viable solution. The developers invested $4.3 million dollars and they're not going to waste that on a low return on investment by turning this parcel into a public park (are you kidding me with that suggestion!), school or church. In fact, if they were to turn it into a church, you can bet that the only church that could afford to build on such land would be a mega church and would likely have a greater negative impact on the surrounding neighborhood. Let's face it, the neighborhood opposed to this development missed the chance to make this property into something special and now has to live with the consequences. Living in PV myself (near the Village Shops) I can tell you that from the standpoint of the city, this development represents one of the only times we can expand our tax base without actually increasing taxes. The residents in the area need to WAKE UP and start providing meaningful suggestions (building a stone/landscaped wall around property to shield their homes, placing villas on the outskirts of the property to mask the interior 3-story complex, etc...) if they want this to be successful in the end.
First of all, shame on The Pitch for its irresponsible and baseless headline. It " ... isn't getting much resistance to its plan ... "? According to whom? To Tutera, obviously. Did the reporter attend the May 7 meeting? It was full of opponents, and not just MVNA members. Unfortunately, most of the proponents left the meeting before hearing the well-prepared and eye-opening presentation about the density of the project and its impact on property values. Another important fact left out of this article: the project includes more than villas and senior living. It also includes a skilled nursing facility, which is basically a second-tier hospital for rehabilitation and recovery. Who wants that in the middle of a residential neighborhood? Plus, I feel sorry for all those who spoke in favor of the project May 7 because they wanted to retire in PV. Do we know the price point of these villas and this senior living facility? I bet most of those speakers won't be able to afford living there. Besides, the big trend in senior living is aging at home. I'm afraid PV is turning into a community of elderly residents. Nothing against old people (heck, I'm 56), but I like age diversity. A previous poster is right when he said we'll drive all the families with children south to Blue Valley and Olathe. Tutera is a devious, low-cost developer. This development is not right for Prairie Village. Period.
Actually the problem was the majority of people that bought the low rate plan, NOT how much the high rate plan was, that area has a high lower income ratio to medium income ratio. I would venture to say almost 75-25. Most people would get the 1.5-3Mb plans because that worked just fine. Latency was low so Netflix ran just fine over the one tv or computer, and gaming was never an issue. Even when they ran a special for a 10Mb package nobody wanted it because what they had worked just fine.
On top of all that, an installation to a home that did not have prior service would cost roughly 800-1200 dollars for all the equipment and labor. So for a $14.95 customer the ROI on that stinks!
Heck I am hoping Google comes to my neighborhood because I want the "free" 5 Mb plan because I don't need it for anything more.
If they lead with anything other than Jodie Whatsherface for Michael Jackson, I'm all in.
The problem is that the project is far out of scale with the space. Turning this much green space into parking lots and dense 3 story buildings is way out of character with the area. Something on a smaller scale would be ok, but what they are planning is HUGE. Also, the headline of this article is way off. There is significant opposition to this plan.
Free speech works both ways.
Speaking of which, anyone know if we'll ever get "The Naked News" in Kansas City?
This is prime real estate (hence paying so much over appraised value) and Prairie Village should be happy that the Tutera group is purchasing it instead of some out of state firm that will develop it into a retail shopping center or apartment complex. Think of the alternatives; a liquor store, convenience store, restaurant, auto parts store, Wal Mart! Sure it would be nice to have it as a park or for more homes, but the reality of it is that just isn't going to happen. And if it was to happen, the houses would be so massive that people would complain about that. Just be lucky that the worst thing that will happen to neighbors is an old person "escaping" or the sound of an ambulance every once in a while.
Uhh yeah 'not tired' I do have a family connection - which I just wrote about in my post.
I wasn't speaking to the issues with the development - I could care less since I don't live in PV. It doesn't impact me. I was just agreeing with 'son' that Lucille, who runs the Atriums, is a fine woman.
Not surprising.
I work for Geo-Tel (http://www.geo-tel.com) and we take fiber optics data and lay it over GIS software, basically making fiber optic lines viewable in a spatial map-like environment. We help local governments, city officials, and urban planners find new ways to increase their city’s connectivity by analyzing existing fiber infrastructure. This allows them to make wiser and more fiscally sound decisions when it comes to expanding upon the telecom infrastructure.
Don't worry the council will cave to the NIMBY crowd. So far the only alternative anyone has proposed is more low density development with houses on 1-3 acre lots. You know while crying about the loss of green space if the school is torn down.
Re: “The Tutera Group isn't getting much resistance to its plan to wall off a chunk of Prairie Village for the Medicare set”
Hey perplexed unless its a tie vote the Mayor doesn't have a say at all in what happens here so what's your point? I can pretty much promise you with the current council it won't be a tie vote. They will pitifully cave to the loud mouths in the MVNA and kill this project and probably the next 3 that anyone attempts to propose on this site until we're stuck with redeveloping the largest vacant property in the city with 5-10 houses and all that precious green space tied up on new multi-acre lots. But that will be acceptable to the neighborhood.
Notice how no one ever mentions the apartments to the north and west of the site? MVNA could care less about the schlubs living there.