How about banning the smelly homeless, or even just the smelly? And the loud talkers? And that flatulent guy? And especially the loud talkers in a group?
Remember, this is at the owners discretion...if you don't like it go somewhere else to eat. You don't have to go there and they obviously don't need your business. Yes,I have kids and I've not had a single date night with my wife in 4 years (since we got married).
How exactly its it discriminatory if the owner chooses that to be part of his/her store policy. Bars do it and no one gets pissy. Not every restaurant does it so what is the big deal? If you want to take your kids to dinner...go to chuck e cheese
Maybe not a ban, but they could make a restaurant not kid-friendly by not offering a kid's menu, or a changing table, or high chairs, or clowns.
I have two kids and have no problem with this. It's like being invited to an adults-only party, I get it. Kids can be awful, and ruin the experience of other diners, including (and especially) their own parents. While it's true that they are adults in the making, and need the experience of learning not to be monsters in public, if this place decides to say "don't practice here", it's their choice.
Kids are people too. Seems to me the commenters who say not allowing kids isn't discrimination are forgetting that. Not allowing kids is like not allowing pets? Really? Dogs don't sit at the table with you and eat a meal with you. Dogs don't order a meal off the menu. Dogs aren't costumers, they are merely (or would merely be) accompanying customers. Children are actual costumers.
Yes, parents with children are still allowed, so long as they don't bring their children. But children aren't. Thus, it discriminates against children. The question, then, is whether that's okay. Some bars don't allow anyone under 21. Most of those places don't serve food, but there's also those, including ones that serve food, where anyone under 21 must be with a parent. An understandable restriction.
I guess it really depends on the restaurant. I can see a sushi bar implementing a rule like that, especially if it's something like a hibachi grill where open grills and flames are an issue. Also, keep in mind that while not ALL parents do this: I could see a scenario where someone brought kids and let them scream and run all over the place. ONCE AGAIN, I'm not saying all parents are like this, but it only takes one hazardous night to ruin it for everyone. Working in a hospital, I saw things like that all the time where parents would bring kids in and leave it to the staff to make sure they weren't getting into medical supplies or licking windows.
With that in mind, I choose not to take my children into restaurants/theaters/hospitals for those reasons, and I can just as easily teach them table manners at home first. When I feel that WE ALL are ready, we might go and learn in an open setting.
On a negative note, that is discriminatory. A more polite way to go about the issue would have been to consider themselves an actual bar and be dubbed as a 18+ only establishment. At that point, I think they're losing more business by being semi-rude than just bumping the age bar.
Yes, KENYAUSURPER17 every problem in your petty ignorant life is due to the fact that Obama is president. You're a complete ass.
It bothers me that the author compares this to a "whites only" policy, presumably to gain sympathy for his cause. Last I checked, I have a choice in having and bringing children. This is really more like a "no pets" policy. The author should be ashamed for abusing the struggles of racial minorities.
I don't think that all restaurants should ban children because, as you said, they need to learn how to behave in a restaurant somehow. That being said though, there is nothing that will ruin my nice romantic and relaxing evening with my husband faster than being sat next to a three year old who's parents think its ok for him to come sit at my table, start screaming for no reason or throw crayons into my food (true story.) @momof4_83 - the problem in this country is entitled parents who think their children are God's gift to humanity. When I was young my parents made my brother and i sit in our seats and behave or we left. The idea of me going to a neighboring table of strangers was absolutely unacceptable.
I'm not saying that I should be able to go into a Denny's or Pizza Street and expect no children, but if I go somewhere expecting to drop $100+ on a meal the last thing I want is to find a crayon in it.
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Wolf Creek has quality control inspectors who would've inspected and signed off on the component when the job was completed. The real problem with Wolf Creek is the management an staff. At least 97% of the staff is related or married in to a family so a sense of entitlement exists to who gets a job there. During my time there, some of the most unqualified people who have no business at such a facility are only there because of relatives, so there are many cover ups, and falsified paperwork done there I witnessed among other things. I've received threats and was harassed if I ever reported it. I was "laid off" so they could continue doing things improper. You can't say anything because they are well organized in cover ups and know how to make a possible whistleblower look like a liar. If you're looking for a job there and you're not related or married in a family there, forget it. Aside from that, the work done by ABB was inspected and approved, Wolf Creek's looking for a scapegoat to cover up for their shortcomings.
It should be viewed the same way as smoke-free restaurants were viewed prior to the public smoking ban. An establishment should be able to choose to market to those who prefer to dine in the presence of adults. I'm certain that those who have hired a sitter for a nice evening in a restaurant don't want to hear someone else's children doing...whatever. I don't believe children should be banned completely by any means; it's important for everyone to learn how to behave in public. But providing a child-free atmosphere is NOT discrimination.
I would love, absolutely L-O-V-E, to go to a kid-free restaurant.
Oh, so now I can't take my kids to a restaurant? THANKS OBAMA!
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My boy would never cause any problems in a restaurant, and if you think he does, it's just your skewed perception. All of the non-parents are the problem in this society. You should all have some kids and figure out what life's really about. If you think my boy is too loud, or you don't like him looking at you, throwing food at you, or momentarily sitting at your table, then you don't understand America and you should go back where you came from! Besides, why do you think the nicer buffets have chocolate fountains and cotton candy? IT'S FOR THE KIDS, DUH! Get over yourselves!
You'll never make it, John David! You're a shame and a disgrace to your family!
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Re: “Restaurants that ban children? Really?”
With recent changes to laws regarding what the local city governments will and won't allow private business owners to do with their business (...I am referring to the smoking bans going up everywhere), it is no longer left up to the business as to what they allow in their business...these decisions are mandated by local ordinance! Welcome to socialism, goodbye free market economy!