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Re: “Malnourished carcasses of two pit bulls found in Dumpster at 31st and Campbell (updated)

james- are you serious???
you think it's ok for someone to fight a dog, starve it to near death, then slit it's throat, bash it's head in with a hammer and shot another one?
then just throw them in a dumpster?

dead animals should be cremated at the shelter.
it is illegal to dump a dead dog.
it is illegal to starve a dog
beat a dog
fight a dog
stab a dog
hit the dog with a hammer
shot a dog

there is outrage for several reasons- the horrible abuse of these dogs- the murder of these dogs- the dumping of these dogs-
how can you not be outraged?


Posted by witness on 04/19/2011 at 12:22 PM

Re: “Malnourished carcasses of two pit bulls found in Dumpster at 31st and Campbell (updated)

rerward money is being increased every hour by donations-

vigil and moment of silence on thursday 4-21-11 at 6pm----- 31st and campbell

Posted by witness on 04/19/2011 at 8:04 AM

Re: “Malnourished carcasses of two pit bulls found in Dumpster at 31st and Campbell (updated)

i have been in animal care for over 20 years- i've seen some horrible things- but this one of the worst. to come face to face with a monster like that and even exchange friendly words with him just seconds after he did this (unknowingly of course) - will haunt me forever.

Posted by witness on 04/19/2011 at 7:07 AM

Re: “Prop B passes: Missouri likes puppies after all

RE: anyone want a dog.

I have lived in several places in the US-
that why I have been to several facilities.

I am VERY glad you personally know breeders that are up to code-
I do too- but not large scale breeders.

I am ok with euthansia to some extent- I wish it didn't have to happen- it is an unfortunate consequence to people not spaying and neutering their pates.
There are over 5 dogs per each person in the US. There are simply not enough homes.

The way to solve the need for euthansia in shelters is by getting out there and promoting spay/nueter of pets. Until the masses spay/neuter- the pet overpopulation will continue- thus the euthanisa will be the only for some pets.

At this point- I feel my time on this comment forum is over- I have simply stated some PERSONAL experiences- and frankly I'm growing tired of being attacked while I am being completely civil.
Not to mention, I'd like to keep all of this for my son's scrapbook- since we are the ones pictured in the blog. When he's older- He doesn't need to read comments that are not very nice to his mom.

Posted by Pj on 11/04/2010 at 10:18 AM

Re: “Prop B passes: Missouri likes puppies after all

RE: anyone want a dog?

Yes- I have lived in the country- not too much land but over 5 acres. My neighbors raised animals for food and there was a buffalo farm a few miles away - where i would buy meat and such for my dogs.

Yes- it will be diffcult to find homes for 200+ animals- but they have a year to do this. I have worked in shelters and I have been present for euthansias- it is very sad to hold a perfectly healthy animal while they take their last breathe. I believe it is more humane than living in a cage- be it a mill or a shelter. The actual process of euthansia via lethal injection is humane and for the most part very gentle- especially if the animal was sedated before hand.

As far as my "right" to go in and TAKE these mills dogs- The BREEDER themselves called ME and asked if i would take their unwanted/needed animals-

When rescue groups go on "the raids" that is ALWAYS because the mill has been closed due to extreme code voilations and the officals ARE involved- dept of ag., animal control and the police-
most of time- these breeders have had several notices to come up to code prior to these "raids"- yet they did NOT comply.

I have done my research and if you re-read my comment above you will see that I stated that farmers shouldn't be too worried right NOW. I understand the concern that this bill MAY open up avenues in the future for farming issues- but that has not happen today- and if or when it does- we WILL be able to vote again- I forsee that type a bill will not pass since prop B cleared by such a small margin.

Never once did I accuse you or any of my local farmers of mistreating or beating their animals used for food.

Please re-read my comments above-
especially what i wrote to anonymous:
"As far as what you wrote-
I think it's wonderful- especially coming from a farmer such as yourself"
I completely support farmers that allow their animal to roam and such. Ibelieve you have mis-read my comment and assumed I was attacking farming- which is VERY far from the truth.

I feel that you are trying to be somewhat abrasive towards me- which I have in no way attacked you with statements asking if you have done your research and what you do for a living and where you live.

I was simply stating actual facts from MY personal experiences. Underground breeding is a huge problem- and it will probably increase- but I just have to be hopeful that any dog that is in need of help- will get it. I know that's unrealistic- but if this helps a even a handful of dogs- then I'm ok with that.

Personally- i have never met a responsible breeder that uses the off spring as a sole source of income- all the responsible breeders i know do it for the love of the breed.

Posted by Pj on 11/04/2010 at 9:55 AM

Re: “Prop B passes: Missouri likes puppies after all

RE: anonymous

first and foremost- I did NOT write the following ("anyone want a dog" worte that):

"So, the people who provide warm shelter and adequate food and water for their breeding dogs, now have to find homes for hundreds and thousands of dogs total."

Please be sure to re-read my comments.

As far as what you wrote-
I think it's wonderful- especially coming from a farmer such as yourself.

By the way- After visitng well over 25 mills around the country- I have NEVER seen a breeding facility with more than 50 dogs that was up to code- so I think limiting the amount is fantastic.

Posted by Pj on 11/04/2010 at 8:37 AM

Re: “Prop B passes: Missouri likes puppies after all

RE:
anyone want a dog-

I also wanted to touch on a few more points you made.

As far as the dogs that these mills will have to get "rid" of. They have up to a year the phase out these dogs and many shelters and rescue groups are ready and willing to take them.
Yes- I understand that some will be destroyed, but hopefully a licensed VET will be performing these euthansias rather then the breeder themselves (via clubbing, drowning, etc), thanks to prop B.

As I stated before- I know responsible breeders and I don't particularly have a problem with that scenario, as long as the animal are PETS and not just a source of money.

I do understand that there are not enough inspectors for these breeding facilities, but prop B will assist in this problem by allowing animal control and other animal welfare agencies to also come in and make sure these dogs are getting the basic needs met.

Lastly- I see no correlation between prop B and cattle. I understand that farmers are nervous but I feel it's not really an issue that this time. I do not eat meat but if I did- the only source of my meat would be from local farmers that allow the animals to roam and do not subject them to hormones and such.
Now- with that said, I believe that not only am I for animal welfare but for our LOCAL farmers, be it vegatables or meat.

Posted by Pj on 11/04/2010 at 7:47 AM

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