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      <![CDATA[This information was posted 10 days ago on Kansas <a href="http://City.com" rel="nofollow">City.com</a>. <br><br>Kansas City hoteliers are coming off one of their worst years ever, with an average occupancy of 52.3 percent in 2009.
        
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      <![CDATA[This information was posted 10 days ago on Kansas City.com. Kansas City hoteliers are coming off one of their worst years ever, with an average occupancy of 52.3 percent in 2009.
        
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      <![CDATA[Save the money and use it for the good of the city. Help our hotels that are already here.
        
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      <![CDATA[Save the money and use it for the good of the city. Help our hotels that are already here.
        
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      <![CDATA[I work at a hotel near the country club plaza, and notice that business is struggling as it is to fill rooms. Hours are getting cut for our employees.
        
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      <![CDATA[I work at a hotel near the country club plaza, and notice that business is struggling as it is to fill rooms. Hours are getting cut for our employees.
        
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      <![CDATA[Great article and writing as usual Mr. Martin. Your premise is solid, but I would posit another theory for the seemingly never ending requests for "one more thing" to energize and restore tourism and conventions to our city.
        
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      <![CDATA[Alberto - they are not tearing the P&L Building down. they are proposing to convert it into a hotel and add on another hotel as well.
        
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      <![CDATA[The best quote I ever heard on this subject (and I was in Hotel Management in Kansas City for many years) is:  "Building another hotel in a city where overall occupancy rates are low is like building a church for Easter Sunday." <br>Think about it - can the city afford to support this hotel (in both capital and labor expenditures) 365 days a year to capture 1 or 2 conventions that may last 3 days each?
        
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      <![CDATA[Great article and writing as usual Mr. Martin. Your premise is solid, but I would posit another theory for the seemingly never ending requests for "one more thing" to energize and restore tourism and conventions to our city.
        
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      <![CDATA[I can't  begin to tell you about all of the similar stories that go on in Kansas City, Missouri. I sat in on most of the Economic Development Council Meetings when the Power and Light District was in the corresponding phases of development.
        
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      <![CDATA[Alberto - they are not tearing the P&L Building down. they are proposing to convert it into a hotel and add on another hotel as well.
        
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      <![CDATA[The best quote I ever heard on this subject (and I was in Hotel Management in Kansas City for many years) is:  "Building another hotel in a city where overall occupancy rates are low is like building a church for Easter Sunday." Think about it - can the city afford to support this hotel (in both capital and labor expenditures) 365 days a year to capture 1 or 2 conventions that may last 3 days each?
        
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      <![CDATA[I can't  begin to tell you about all of the similar stories that go on in Kansas City, Missouri. I sat in on most of the Economic Development Council Meetings when the Power and Light District was in the corresponding phases of development.
        
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      <![CDATA[I vividly remember when then mayor, Kay Barnes, was riding around in a stretch limo paid by her dear buddy Mr. No Conflict of Interest Philip Anschutz, all the while plugging the Sprint Center. I attended a glorified rally on the Plaza were everyone (except me) was just giddy over the prospects of teams fighting over a chance to call the arena their home.
        
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      <![CDATA[maybe kc should look at how in las vegas the new huge city center complex is affecting all the other hotels there that were already having low numbers.
        
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      <![CDATA[I vividly remember when then mayor, Kay Barnes, was riding around in a stretch limo paid by her dear buddy Mr. No Conflict of Interest Philip Anschutz, all the while plugging the Sprint Center. I attended a glorified rally on the Plaza were everyone (except me) was just giddy over the prospects of teams fighting over a chance to call the arena their home.
        
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      <![CDATA[maybe kc should look at how in las vegas the new huge city center complex is affecting all the other hotels there that were already having low numbers.
        
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      <![CDATA[The fact of the matter is you can't create demand for lodging simply by building more lodging. I don't see how adding more rooms is going to help increase occupancy at said project.
        
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      <![CDATA[Is it me or is just TERRIBLY WRONG that they are thinking on tearing down such a beatiful Art Deco building, having so many empty lots out there? Could they do it worse?
        
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      <![CDATA[The fact of the matter is you can't create demand for lodging simply by building more lodging. I don't see how adding more rooms is going to help increase occupancy at said project.
        
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      <![CDATA[Is it me or is just TERRIBLY WRONG that they are thinking on tearing down such a beatiful Art Deco building, having so many empty lots out there? Could they do it worse?
        
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      <![CDATA[I think the hotel is a good idea as any major construction and then subsequent national buisness would be, but I am tired of Kansas City forking over so much money to developers. Sure you need to do such things to attract developers, but it's not like they aren't going to get any benefit out of building, owning, and operating a 1,000 room hotel in a city that is rising in various national attractions.
        
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: Warning: KC's push for a convention hotel ignores experience and logic]]></title>

    
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      <![CDATA[First of all, the City needs to get their priorities straight:<br>1. Addressing getting the crime under control here in Kansas City, and all the homicides.<br>2.
        
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      <![CDATA[I think the hotel is a good idea as any major construction and then subsequent national buisness would be, but I am tired of Kansas City forking over so much money to developers. Sure you need to do such things to attract developers, but it's not like they aren't going to get any benefit out of building, owning, and operating a 1,000 room hotel in a city that is rising in various national attractions.
        
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