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Tech: We started our lawsuit this year.
O'Guin: Oh, shit!
[Conversation moves off the record.]
Tech: We had a lot of things happen this year.
Mac: I had a beer come out named after me — Mac's Beer.
O'Guin: Where's that at?
Mac: Flying Monkey Brewery. It's out in Olathe. You can get it on tap at a lot of places.
[Touring talk ensues until someone mentions Tech's hair.]
Tech: Guess what, Krizz! So I went to go take my mom money yesterday, and you remember when I told you Agony called — Agony is my son's mom — she said, "Why is my son's hair like that? Why is his skin like that?" I said, "What?" She said, "He don't look like regular black kids he goes to school with — his hair's different. His skin's different." I'm like, "I don't know. My mom's black, and my daddy's black, so I don't know." So it made me wanna know. I'm 36 years old, and all I know is, I'm black. So I go and take my money to my mama, and I tell her the story, her and Suzie. Suzie's got this long black hair, like my mama, like all my aunties. So I told her that I told Agony that we're black, and she says, "No, we're Chawtaw Indian and Creole." [Tech slams one palm on the table and looks around, wide-eyed.] "Thank you! Thank you for telling me!"
Kalico: But Creole's black, though, isn't it?
Tech: Creole's French and black, but what the fuck is Chawtaw Indian?
Mac and O'Guin: Choctaw.
Tech: But she said Chawtaw!
Kalico: That's just the hood curvature.
Tech: That's what I say after all my shit: chaw! [Laughs.] But wouldn't I have wanted to know something like this when I was little, man? They told me like I should know it. They said, "Look at your grandma. Didn't you remember she was Indian?" I'm like, OK, she looks like my mama.
Kalico: I thought mine was, too, but I turned out to look like a resident nigga.
Did you learn anything about yourself this year, Mac?
Mac: I'm part wolf. I didn't know. That's why I always go woo-oo-oof on my songs, 'cause I'm part wolf.
Tech: Do you go woo-oo-oof on your songs?
Mac: Sometimes. We always mix it way down so you can't hear.
Now that you've been in it a while, do you have any thoughts on the industry now?
Tech: I want to say mine first because mine's gonna be different from everybody else's, I think. They always ask me, "How do you feel about the state of hip-hop?" and I say, "I love it. I love it." And they ask why, and I say because it's helping black, white, Chinese, Latinas, whatever you may be — young motherfuckers — get up out of poverty. It's positive. I don't give a fuck if it's Soulja Boy, or it's fuckin' Young Joc or Young Drew, whoever. I love that hip-hop is getting these motherfuckers out of the streets. We're actual MCs. We actually fuckin' take the time to say some clever shit to impress everybody else, even the other MCs. Some guys out there, they don't give a fuck. This is what they're supposed to do. It's the reason for Soulja Boy. It's kids that wanna dance. It's necessary. You know what I'm sizzlin'? I'm a fan of music. So just because he don't flow like I do don't mean I'm'a say that ain't real hip-hop.... Like, Nas said, "Hip-hop is dead." I don't believe that it's dead. I feel like his outlook on what hip-hop is is dead, and it's not the dominant thing. So that's the way to say it, and say it right. And you got Luda to say, "Hip-hop ain't dead. It lives in the South." Fuck yeah, dude! It can live wherever you push it.... There's money for everybody, so why hate on the next man 'cause he does it different? So when they ask me what I think about the state of hip-hop. I say I love it because it's dominant. It's dominant in everything. You see it in rock. You see it in country — Nelly and fuckin' Tim McGraw. What? That's wonderful.