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Posted by J15056975826 on May 5, 2011 at 11:13 PM

I came upon this rather bizzare site during a web search for items pertaining to my now deceased daughter. It is, to an outsider, a rather strange and sad place to visit. Way too much arguing, accusations and, quite frankly, silliness about something that has been decided a decade ago and, if revisited, will be decided by a court of law and not arguments on a blog.
BTW, I am not really interested in the case and have no opinions as to it's eventual outcome.

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Posted by George Hunsicker on January 15, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Yes, the truth is still the truth.

It is true that when Byron Case was directly accused by Kelly Moffett of Anastasia's murder, he went silent and changed the subject, after which he coached her on how to avoid admitting anything to police. The truth is that this is NOT the behavior of an innocent man.

It is true that Kelly Moffett was sober when she witnessed Byron Case shoot Anastasia WitbolsFeugen. It is also true that Moffett was sober when she testified to that fact in court on April 29, 2002. And the truth is still the truth.

It is true that Kelly Moffett broke up with Byron Case in December 1998 or January '99. Case did not break up with her, and the breakup was more than a year and a half before she named him as the killer. The characterization of Kelly Moffett as an "embittered ex-girlfriend" is a fable.

It is true that Byron Case knew from the start that he was a suspect in the murder of Anastasia WitbolsFeugen. He admitted this to her family, and he admitted the same under oath in court. It is true that he did everything he could to avoid talking to the police after having given them his first statement. It is true that he was rude and boorish with Anastasia's family in the months following the murder.

It is true that Don Rand, called by the defense as a witness and STILL touted by Case apologists, did not see Justin Bruton's car. It is true that he saw a car on the opposite side of the road and heading in the opposite direction that Bruton's car would have been going. It is true that he told investigators that he could not tell at all whether the woman he saw getting out of that car was upset in any way. It is true that his testimony did nothing to help Case's defense. It is true that Case and his supporters are fully aware of these facts, yet continue to perpetrate the lie.

It is true that Byron Case was convicted by a jury of his peers based upon (1) Kelly Moffett's eyewitness testimony, (2) his own tacit admission of the murder, and (3) his lack of a believable alibi. It is true that his performance on the stand, as well of those of at least three of his friends, was viewed suspiciously by jurors, and that those factors added to their certainty of his guilt.

It is true that Aaron Vermuelen liked to brag to friends about the "good old days" with Byron Case, when they would snort cocaine and play video games. It is true that Byron Case had a worse drug habit and more mental health issues BEFORE Anastasia's murder than Kelly Moffett did AFTER the murder.

It's true that Evelyn Case had no idea during the summer of '97 whether her son was living with her or staying for weeks at a time at Jutin's. It is true that she accepted as gospel everything he told her. It is true that Evelyn Case is now reduced to slandering and stalking people who lost a loved one to her son's actions. It is true that her concept of the "truth" is what her son says is the truth.

It is true that Byron Case murdered Anastasia WitbolsFeugen without conscience, and that he manipulated his girlfriend to lie on his behalf. It is true that Byron Case is in prison for life, and that his appeals with the best chance of success have already been reviewed and rejected by the courts. It is true that he will die behind bars. It is true that he deserves his fate. And that truth is still the truth.

And BTW, Evelyn (and yes, we know those last two posts were yours), I don't answer questions for someone too cowardly to identify themselves. Enough with this "Anonymous" crap. And that's more truth than you can handle, lady.

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Posted by Frank K. Jung on December 9, 2008 at 4:42 PM

Frank
when EXACTLY did you meet this leader in person?

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Posted by Anonymous on December 8, 2008 at 11:11 AM

Infamous or famous
This reads like a tabloid.
The truth is still the truth, and nothing has changed.

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Posted by Anonymous on December 8, 2008 at 10:59 AM

Sorry I've been gone for so long, as we have an election recount going on up here. I knew there were comments (search engine still works), but I've had some higher priorities.

I expected I'd find a couple more goofy comments from another Aaron sockpuppet or three. Imagine my surprise to find only one Aaron sockpuppet, and one in support.

Guys, is it one of you from work? If so, no fair, I can do this myself, though I will say your comments were on the mark.

If it's not a coworker of mine, it's definitely not family, as we almost never refer to Case as "Byron", but by his last name; he's done nothing to earn the respect of being called anything else. Perhaps I should just refer to him as "Inmate 328416". No, I won't, but I don't call him by his first name. I call my friends by their first names, and he is definitely not that.

One correction:

"regardless if he was suffering from a high fever from strep throat"

Case was suffering from a low-grade fever (101 F), not a "high fever", as he claimed. His doctor's evaluation shows that, and you can tell from the tape of his conversation with Kelly Moffett that he was not delerious and had not just woken up. He was sick, no doubt, but delerious? Just another lie/exaggeration by B.C. Case.

As for Vermeulen's (yeah, I'll stop calling HIM by his first name as well; from now on, he's the Wanker) "gothical" post, it's the same old argument, misstatement, and slander as before. Kelly Moffett was neither drunk nor a crack head on the night she witnessed Anastasia's murder; she was neither drunk nor a crack head when she testified in court about that night. And Case was not convicted "solely" on that basis. There was the matter of a bad and unbelievable alibi, and oh yeah, that tacit confession.

You always seem to forget that, don't you, Wanker? Case in effect confessed to the crime, and his alibi violated all logic. Next thing, you'll be going back to Don Rand. How'd that work out for you last time?

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Posted by Frank Jung on November 19, 2008 at 3:59 PM

At first glance it appears that Byron was convicted largely on the testimony of a single witness. However, there is one rather glaring problem that really stands out, the so-called "tacit admission" of guilt by Byron.

When asked by Kelley Moffett during a taped telephone conversation, " Why did you have to kill her? . . . Could you explain that to me? . . . I mean if you could seriously explain to me as to why you actually felt the need to kill her, then that would really help me feel better about the whole fucking thing," Bryon didn't say, "Look, you are nuts. You know I didn't kill her. Why are you saying this? Go away and leave me alone, I'm sick" or something to that effect. Instead, he rather cryptically replied, "We shouldn't talk about this."

It really bothers me that Byron didn't say something more forceful to Kelley if he was in fact innocent, regardless if he was suffering from a high fever from strep throat. I know that even if I was on my death bed, I could muster up the strength to forcefully deny an accusation of murder from someone. That he didn't do that is very troubling.

And when Kelly asked Byron what she should tell the police, who were questioning her about the murder, Byron said to her, "I mean the only advice that I can give is start everything with 'I think,' or 'the best I can remember is' . . . there."

If the story of what happened to Anastasia occurred the way that Byron has always said it did, then why didn't Bryon simply tell Kelley to just tell the police the truth?

I'm sorry, but it really appears to even the casual observer that something is not quite right with that whole picture. "We shouldn't talk about this" sounds like a person who may have been smart enough to know that the conversation was possibly being recorded.

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Posted by Anonymous on November 12, 2008 at 11:35 AM

Byron needs a new trial. Being convicted solely on the testimony of a drunken crack head is just plain wrong, and scary, too.

We should all be scared to death if that is what it takes to send someone to prison for the rest of their life.

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Posted by gothical on October 27, 2008 at 6:11 PM

You should know all about Karma, Aaron. Just ask your "wife" and "A Friend" about it. Trash talking while hiding behind sockpuppets and stalking people you've never met is the way to prove your friend's "innocence", right? You've been hiding behind aliases for the last three months, and have yet to honor your promise in your last signed post to explain your reasoning for your email last year trying to incite harassment against others. We're still waiting for that, and you've had all that time as well to come up with an alibi for the tacit admission that got Case convicted.


But instead of playing games with you, I'm just going to give you something from our FAQ.



What were the details of Byron Case's alibi?

Byron Case and his supporters have long maintained that he was always consistent with his alibi of the night of the murder. This is not entirely true, as there were significant variations between what he on some important details.

The Basic Story

The basics of Case's alibi are that he, Justin Bruton, and Kelly Moffett picked up Anastasia at the Dairy Queen at Highway 24 and Brookside in Independence, Missouri, a little before 7 PM on October 22, 1997, much later than had been planned. There are differences and inconsistencies in events and intentions before that, but this discussion is about the alibi regarding what Case claimed transpired between then and her alleged exit from Justin's car.

According to Case's most basic alibi, they picked Anastasia up at the Dairy Queen, drove into Mt. Washington Cemetery, stopped briefly at the William Rockhill Nelson Mausoleum, then left the cemetery when spotted by the caretaker; they exited the cemetery, drove south along its eastern wall, and turned west on Truman Road. At the stoplight near Truman and I-435, Anastasia became angry with Justin, got out of the car, announced she was walking home, and proceeded to walk east on Truman Road. Bruton, Case, and Moffett then drove back to Justin's condo, while Anastasia's actions remain a mystery.

Inconsistencies

In Case's first statement to police on October 24, 1997, he mentioned that after picking up Anastasia, they decided to "follow through with the original plan" and return to the original meeting spot, which was the Nelson Mausoleum in Mt. Washington Cemetery; when he told Anastasia's family about the same event via email, he described it as if they had been "looking for a place to park the car". In his second police interview on July 29, 1999, he described the drive to the Nelson as if they simply drove around and decided at the spur of the moment to stop there.

In Case's first interview with police on October 24, 1997, he told police that Anastasia got out of Justin Bruton's car at the traffic light at Truman Road and I-435 after announcing she was going to do so, that she and Justin argued about her leaving, that she slammed his door closed and walked off, and that neither he nor Justin nor Kelly Moffett considered it unusual, as she had walked out of Justin's condo during arguments many times before. When he described this to Anastasia's family two months later, he changed his story to say that "none of us expected her to get out of the car". Less than a week after that, he added the detail of Justin telling Anastasia he didn't really love her being the remark that set her off. In his second interview with police, 21 months after the murder, he added details of Anastasia's and Justin's conversation that he didn't seem to remember two days after the event. In his testimony at trial, he left out the detail of Justin and Anastasia arguing briefly once she got out of the car.

Also of interest is the testimony of John Bruton, Justin Bruton's step-father. Mr. Bruton testified that Case told him that the drive had been the result of a "double date", and that Anastasia had exited the car at a stop sign. While Bruton's testimony can be regarded as second-hand, it is significant that a friend of Case's, Allie Conrad, came forward to the family in late 1998 to tell them that Case had talked to her the day after the murder and told her that Anastasia had exited Justin's car at the stop sign at Blue Ridge and Truman Road, near the entrance of Lincoln Cemetery, not a dissimilar story to the one Case had told Bruton. Allie's place in this murder investigation is told elsewhere.

Problems with Veracity



One of the key components of Case's alibi was that Anastasia's alleged behavior (angrily storming away from Justin's car and attempting to walk home along a dangerous part of town) was "not unusual behavior," trying to equate it to times Anastasia had walked out of Justin's condo in the Plaza and walked around the block a few times to cool off. Anastasia's family considered this description to have been extremely inconsistent with her normal behavior from the very start, and Case once tried to justify his claim by telling the family via email that "Justin and Stasia argued a lot, but never as fiercely as they did that night". A major part of his alibi required that Anastasia be so upset as to take actions categorically at odds with her personality and previous behavior. Case only attempted to redefine such actions as being "normal" for Anastasia.

Case's alibi also required by its nature that Anastasia was murdered at Lincoln Cemetery by a complete stranger, a scenario of which has already been disposed. Forensic evidence made it clear that Anastasia had not been abducted, that she had not struggled with an assailant, and had not even tried to shield herself from the fatal shot; along with other clues, and the extreme unlikeliness of an assailant lying in wait at that time and place, made the scenario difficult if not impossible to believe.



The jury did not find Byron Case's alibi believable.

Go to http://www.stasia.org/case_aga... to see all references.

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Posted by Frank Jung on October 21, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Dude how long has it been since my last post? Seriously? Wow! You are truly a work of art. I started a post and have since put it on the back burner from months ago. I will put it all together over the next couple of weeks. Please feel free to rant daily until then! :0 By the way how is Robert WitbolsFeugen's police charges coming along? Isn't he due back at court on FRIDAY, OCTOBER 17, 2008 at Location:DIVISION 28 Jackson - Independence 9:00am. Tell him I send my blessing. Karma follows us all, no mater who we are, or how powerful and exalted we have become. :)
AV out!

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Posted by Aaron Vermeulen on October 8, 2008 at 9:44 PM

Oh, boy, you're REALLY being a funny, creative troll, aren't you, Aaron, posting fraudulent messages under someone else's name? Well, no, you're not. You're still just dropping your pants and playing with yourself in front of anyone you can find nearby. Maybe it comes from living behind a cemetery.

Everyone knows that it is you, Aaron. As you continue to lie about it, you STILL know you're a liar. You can't come back with your own name, because you'd have to admit your cowardice of hiding behind sockpuppets all this time. God, what a wanker. I just don't know for sure whether it's because you are just a coward, or because you're a pathological liar.

And you still can't answer the questions. You left the question about Case's tacit admission of murder with the reply that it "isn't something I'm prepared to defend at this point". Well, when will you be able to respond?

The responses you DID make to other questions were pretty much non-answers that avoided the issue or attempted misdirection. Two questions: 1. Were you on Sarah Palin's debate prep team? 2. Are you ever going to attempt to make a real answer to them, or can we all assume that you've acknowledged Case's guilt by your failure to respond?

And exactly how are you "proving" Byron Case's "innocence" with trolling behavior? How does this inability to admit the truth of your own behavior give you the least credibility if you were to actually make an argument?

Now, just to state the bloody obvious here, the "Frank K. Jung" posts on 9/26 after 10 PM were made by the same worthless piece of crud who has posted here under the monikers "A Friend", "Not Your Friend", �Anonymous� (at least since June), "Frank�s Mom", "FYI,FKJ", "Uncle David", "Nicole", "John Smith", "Hehe", "Beasley", "Dear Idiot", "Mrs. Vermeulen", and of course, "Aaron Vermeulen". Most of those rants were posted from Aaron's parents' attic on Berry, where he has lived his entire adult life and has obsessively stalked people for the last six years.

I've said this before, Aaron, the first time I responded to you: Get a life. Your current one sucks.

Byron Case is guilty, and will remain in prison for the rest of his and your lives, and I wish him a long, long life. How's THAT feel, Aaron?

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Posted by Frank Jung on October 5, 2008 at 10:26 PM

Frank asked: "So tell us, "A Friend", just how did you manage to stumble onto this? What were you searching for to land here?"

I was searching for your mailing address. I wanted to send you the phone number for a good therapist who can help you deal with your hate issues.

I was also searching for a way to understand why people like you are so filled with hate. I'd ask you, but all you would do is accuse me of being some guy named Aaron, the second greatest object of your hate outside of Byron Case.

Who else is on your hate list?

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Posted by A Friend on September 26, 2008 at 9:16 PM

For the record, I just want everyone to know that I really don't think that Byron Case is guilty and that I now believe that he should be released from prison.

Also, I would like to publically apologize to anyone who has read my words on here whom I may have offended. Thank you.

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Posted by Frank K. Jung on September 26, 2008 at 9:09 PM

For the record, I just want everyone to know that I really don't think that Byron Case is guilty and that I now believe that he should be released from prison.

Also, I would like to publically apologize to anyone who has read my words on here whom I may have offended. Thank you.

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Posted by Frank K. Jung on September 26, 2008 at 9:02 PM

Someone at my office noticed this while I was posting at lunch and mentioned this. I'd missed it:

"I am just a guy who stumbled onto this page"


After going to the Plog via its regular means, we were unable to pull up any posting that was originally written in May 2007, at least not without knowing what we were looking for. It just does not happen by accident.

So tell us, "A Friend", just how did you manage to stumble onto this? What were you searching for to land here?

Take your time, Aaron. I'm sure you'll come up with an excuse almost as brilliant and convincing as your explanation of the "FBC Surprise" email. Oh, wait, you never HAVE come up with an explanation there, which is probably what will happen here.

Everybody knows who you are, Aaron. We all know WHAT you are as well. You're a troll. An obsessive, pathetic troll. the truly sad thing is that it's probably all to which you can aspire.

Fuck off, troll.

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Posted by Frank K. Jung on September 26, 2008 at 3:11 PM

God, sometimes I hate it when I'm right. Yep, Aaron is back, and all he could do was play with himself in front of us all. He has nothing substantive to offer.

This is the best you can do?

"A Friend" proved he was Aaron when, after claiming not to be a supporter of Byron Case, he started (badly) defending Case in one of his "replies" (9/15), and made the confimation absolute by taking a shot at Robert WitbolsFeugen, something that is 100% Aaron and nothing but Aaron. It helps the identification that "A Friend" throws exactly the same kind of temper tantrum that Aaron does in his named posts. All that plus the fact that "A Friend" has frequently posted here from the same IP address that "Aaron Vermeulen" uses. God, you're stupid, Aaron. Don't you think some of these things can be traced?

You're doing this because you can't come back as Aaron. "Aaron" dropped out rather unceremoniously back in July after having been stuck for an answer about his attempts at internet harassment. You'd think that being outed for lies about your personal life would be enough, but it took having to own up to possibly felonious acts that scared off his only true ID. But you just can't stay away, can you Aaron?

Bottom line is that Byron Case really did murder Anastasia WitbolsFeugen and is rightfully doing a life sentence in a max security prison for his crime.

Bottom line is that he will be there FOR THE REST OF HIS MISERABLE LIFE.

Bottom line is that the evidence supports his conviction.

Bottom line is that Aaron is a pathetic wanker who has no real life, and that his attempts at using sockpuppets and not get caught has degenerated into an ugly clusterfuck.

Bottom line is that Aaron CANNOT make a legitimate, rational, and believable answer ANY of the questions I've posted.

Update for ya, Aaron, since you're so obsessed with Robert WitbolsFeugen: I heard from one of his daughters this week, and learned Jackson County has decided to postpone his "trial" till after the election, and word is that they will not pick it up any time soon, having such a weak-ass case against him. Sorry to disappoint you. Wait, no, I'm actually laughing at your disappointment.

Get help soon, Aaron, before you hurt someone.

You know, I miss arguing with Jamie. His arguments were only marginally better than yours (I'd hope he's still a bit embarrassed about his "depth of character" remark), but he at least didn't start his arguments from some fantasy world. He just believed that "prosecutors are trained to be sociopaths" and that a public defender draws "his paycheck from the same source as the prosecutor does" (an attitude and belief that are drawn from his own past), but he had less of the stink of True Believer than you do.

I note that, possibly in response to my statements here, the FBC website has now announced that the MySpace circle jerk has been closed by its administrator, so as to work on "other promotional endeavors". Nice save effort, Sylvia. If you really want to get anywhere, you should remove all the taint that the association with Aaron still leaves on the site. But of course, there wouldn't be much left afterward.

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Posted by Frank Jung on September 26, 2008 at 11:43 AM

got an ulcer yet?

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Posted by Anonymous on September 23, 2008 at 7:49 AM

Frank, can you also set your search engine to notify you every time that I scratch my balls? Seriously, you don't think that you are angry and obsessed? You should see yourself the way outsiders see you. And you have ZERO proof that I am this Aaron character outside of your own narrow-minded insistance that I am.

I am not Aaron and I do not support either side of this argument. I am just a guy who stumbled onto this page, started reading, and was amazed by how angry this Frank character is! I mean seriously, it is just simply incredible.

Niether side of this argument does anything to further their cause, I can tell you that!

And "Frank" is the worst of the lot.

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Posted by A Friend on September 22, 2008 at 7:19 AM

I'm just going to have to set the search engine to check weekly. Aaron just can't leave it alone. And he just thinks it so clever when he uses sockpuppets and denies that it's him. Aaron, don't you think you should be at least posting from a different IP address, where it's less simple to trace you? Yes, I have that capacity, and have been able to identify you for some time now.

Write all you want this weekend, Aaron. We know you won't use your real name, and that no one else is posting, and we know you can't actually write anything of substance, that all you can do is shout "Nyah nyah" and "Sez you". You will not defend Case's innocence anymore because you cannot, and bullshit is the only weapon you have left. Sling away.

Aaron, I will now assume that the fact that you made one feeble effort to answer my questions and have gone back to attacking me anonymously means that you have no answer for any of the questions and that you have conceded the points.

Byron Case made a tacit admission of murder, and you have made a tacit admission that you can't really answer the questions, and can no longer defend him.

So the facts as tacitly agreed upon so far:

1 & 2. Case knew from the start that he was a suspect. He prepared himself for his interview with police, and steadfastly refused to talk to them again face to face until they offered him limited immunity, a condition that he later misinterpreted as his "get out of jail free" card, thinking it was a blanket immunity for any statement he made. He rehearsed Kelly Moffett for each interview she did, but stayed away from them himself. The reason he avoided talking to police was that he was afraid of being tripped up if he had to answer the questions too many times.

3. Byron Case resisted arrest because he knew the jig was up when he saw the police and he panicked. He had lied for so long about his having murdered Anastasia that he had lost the ability to admit to it.

4. When directly accused of murder by someone who was with him on the night of the murder, Case clammed up and then simply tried to change the subject. He already had been talking about the fact police wanted to talk to Kelly Moffett, and after changing the subject away from his own guilt, he started advising her how to avoid telling the truth to police. There is only one conclusion to explain his behavior, the same conclusion the jury came to: he murdered Anastasia WitbolsFeugen in cold blood, after cool reflection.

5. Anastasia and Case had been friends at several points of their acquaintance, but by summer/autumn of 1997, they disliked each other strongly. Anastasia resented Case stirring up problems between her and Justin, and Case resented the demands she made on Justin's time. Case had put out an insult on his pager announcement to her, one that actually offended some mutual friends, and two nights before the murder, Anastasia had left word with Justin that "Byron can go fuck himself". A witness from the night of the murder, Dawn Wright, testified that she had seen Anastasia angrily arguing with Case ("the guy in the long black trench coat"). They were NOT friends at the time he killed her.

6 & 7. Evelyn Case testified (page 877) that her son had complained frequently how little he saw of Justin because of his relationship with Anastasia (this while testifying on his behalf), and Case could not deny that he had made such complaints. As already shown in Anastasia's letter to Justin, Case had interfered in their relationship.

8. Aaron is an asshole who has consistently hidden behind the internet to make libelous accusations, and has on a number of occasions threatened to "dig up dirt" on a variety of persons. He has stalked Kelly Moffett practically ever since Case was convicted, but has never found anything except that she has been pretty messed up ever since that day she witnessed Anastasia's murder. Aaron probably can't pronounce "Schadenfreude", much less define it, but it's one of his defining characteristics. He's a bully, and like all bullies is a base coward and only attacks when he can duck behind his sockpuppet identity. He has few if any friends, and is fiercely loyal to Byron Case because Case has made him believe that they're true friends. Case has little respect for Aaron's intellect; he was a good person to hang out and do drugs with, and has blind loyalty befitting a fanatic from any cult, and Case used Aaron as part of his manufactured alibi, and Aaron can't admit that now, not even to himself.

Aaron sent out his now-infamous email to others on the FBC site because he thought it would be "fun" if he could get anyone to make crank calls or commit vandalism or any kind of harassment. He never expected it would be passed to one of the objects of his hatred and obsession. If he thought that it might come back to bite him, he would have chickened out.

He has done everything he can to avoid talking about it, even after having promised to respond back in July. He never will respond, because he's too cowardly to admit to criminal actions, he can't rationalize it as any sort of innocent prank, and he's too cowardly to simply 'fess up and apologize. He still hides behind sockpuppets because he can't resurface as himself without explaining why he's afraid to answer for his assholiness.

9. Yes, Aaron and Byron Case used to think it fun to ingest cocaine and then play video games with each other. We have that on good authority, Aaron: we have it in your own words to a friend to whom you had no reason to exaggerate.

10. When Evelyn Case claimed her son's first felony conviction was reduced to a misdemeanor, she was apparently going on his telling. When she testified that Kelly Moffett had told Case that her father was a violent alchoholic, it was Case himself who made the story up for her consumption. Byron Case told lies to his mother to suit his needs, and she bought every single one of them. She helped enable his lifestyle, including being able to kill another human being.

11. The MySpace "community" is now defunct for at least the third time since this article was originally posted. I had nothing directly to do with that, but a communication from one of Anastasia's sisters informs me that MySpace was itself starting to crack down on such sites, and this one had been noted. I have no idea whether Aaron's earlier legally questionable actions had any influence, but it could not have helped.

12. The FBC website has a number of demonstrable lies on it, only one of which is the "third party witness" bullshit. They're even lying about what they do with the money.

Everybody knows who you are, Aaron. Everybody knows WHAT you are. If I had even the least bit of respect for you, perhaps I'd hate you, but no, you are the one filled with hate; you are the one hiding behind aliases and avoiding directly addressing the issues. How does that feel?

You'll be back, because just like any other exhibitionist, you'll want to jump out from behind the bushes and expose yourself. I just wish you were a bit more creative.

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Posted by Frank Jung on September 18, 2008 at 11:17 PM

Not a Friend: Frank has a life. It involves posting her daily about how much he hates certain people. So there, chew on that!

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Posted by Frank's Mom on September 18, 2008 at 5:06 PM

I have a life, Aaron. As I mentioned before, I work for a private criminalistics lab. You're the one living with your parents at 30 and creating an imaginary wife and children.

And still, you can't offer legitimate or rational answers to the questions about Case's alleged innocence.

You know, the saddest thing about you, Aaron, is that you are and always have been Case's clueless dupe. He planned to be at your house when his friend Abraham would page him, so he could show you his best stricken, shocked look when he revealed to you that his "friend" had just been found dead. He drove over to your house that day IN THE CAR YOU KEEP CLAIMING WAS IN THE SHOP. He spent the night at his father's house, a 5-minute drive from your house, so he could get there in time for his buddy to page him.

He had Kelly tell her mother the "Anastasia got out of the car and walked home" alibi the night before, just as he fed it to his mother later the same night. He's said over and over again that "no one considered her behavior unusual", yet they both managed to make special note of it to their mothers. And he made sure someone credulous was there to witness his "shock" when he "first" heard the "news".

God, Aaron, you should have been a Bush supporter. You have such a capacity for belief that flies in the face of the facts.

BTW, there ARE now some viewers of this site. I clued some of my co-workers in on this, and they think you'd be hilarious if you weren't serious about yourself. One of them thought you'd fit the profile of a Manson Family member, with your single-minded, almost religious faith in your guy.

Again, now, WHY did you send that email with the personal contact info? Was it to plan birthday parties for its subjects? Was it to include them in your circle? Were you just doing a lot of coke that night, and forgot yourself? Or did you have criminal intent to incite harassment?

And now that the FBC Circle Jerk has expired, to any of its members still communicate with you, knowing that YOUR behavior helped shut it down?

Karma really is a bitch, and it's already taken a bite out of you, Aaron.

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Posted by Frank Jung on September 18, 2008 at 4:07 PM

Wow. Frank needs to get a life.

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Posted by Not Your Friend on September 18, 2008 at 1:22 PM

Poor, pathetic, cowardly Aaron Vermeulen is at it again, avoiding the issues and going on attack just to change the subject. As it is and always shall be.

Aaron, the guy who tried to incite harassment against a person who was an eyewitness in the trial of one of his favorite buddies, thinks HE has reason to be "afraid" of me.

Let me ask you this, Aaron. Do you think I would want someone as obsessed and as angry as YOU to know where I live?

QUESTION 11: What happened to your MySpace "community"? You know, the one to whose members you sent that "Surprise" email with the incitement to harass?

QUESTION 12: The FBC site STILL has the false statement about "a third party witness whose statement the day after the murder took place vouched for Byron Case's innocence" when we already know that Don Rand (the "third party" in question) testified that the car he saw was eastbound (heading toward Anastasia's home) when Case claimed that they were all heading the opposite direction. We also know that Don Rand at first testified on direct that the woman had been arguing and looked upset, but on cross-examination had to admit that he had not seen anything of the sort, that he had already told police that he could not tell whether or not the woman was upset, and that he hadn't seen her in any sort of argument. The question: Why does the FBC web site still put out this direct lie? It's almost like Sarah Palin and the Bridge to Nowhere. Why to you still continue to lie?

Byron Case lost his last appeal, and has none currently working, yet that information has never been posted on the FBC web site. Why not? Why can they not admit how poorly he's done with his appeals, and admit that all donations are currently going toward buying cigarettes?

You say I'm full of hate, but hatred has been your hallmark, hatred of Kelly Moffett and of several members of the victim's family, even hatred for the victim. You use the word "obsessed" a lot to describe everyone with whom you disagree, but what does it say about you when, SIX YEARS after your friend's conviction, you try to harass his victim's godfather? What does it say when YOU were the one thrown out of Byron Case's trial for trying to intimidate a witness on the stand?

It says that you are one sick fuck, Aaron. No one would even know your name except for the obsessive way you attack any who disagree with you. Get help. Get it now. Don't rely on your "wife" for help, because "she" is in your imagination.

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Posted by Frank Jung on September 17, 2008 at 10:48 PM

Frank Jung, you say "A Friend" should have no fear of putting his name on his posts, as you have."

I think that the fact that you are extremely angry is quite obvious to anyone who reads your daily rantings and ravings on here. (I can imagine spittle flying off your lips if you were speaking).

So that you would think it odd that someone would not want to post using their real name is completely laughable!

I mean, come on, would you want someone as angry and obsessed as you are to know who you are and where you live? No thanks. I'm not ready to give some obsessed mad man any excuse to come after me.

And you scare me, dude. Get help before you end up in prison for something violent that you do.

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Posted by A Friend on September 17, 2008 at 3:07 PM

Here's a followup on my statements and questions from yesterday:

First, we all know it's you, Aaron, behind the "A Friend" and even the "Anonymous" posts of the last week. You tried to pretend that you were just someone who was reading the posts from a neutral standpoint, going so far as to say you didn't support Byron Case. But all through it, you were a partisan in his cause, and when you took a dig at Robert WitbolsFeugen, you left absolutely no doubt as to your identity.

Be honest for a change, Aaron. You've been lying about so many things throughout this, and you're not particularly good at it; you keep getting caught in your lies, and you look worse each time. Jamie has been the only poster here other than you and me for the last couple of months, and you're the only one hiding behind an alias. Just stop it. I won't respect you less for 'fessing up. I really can't respect you much less than I already do.


As for the questions and current responses:

(1) You are attempting to redefine "suspect" as a legal concept by asserting that police would have to arrest him if he were a suspect; this is not true. Police usually make arrests only when they believe they've gathered enough evidence to bring it to trial. As long as both Byron Case and Kelly Moffett stuck to the same story, police had little to go on other than the flimsiness of their alibi.



You know the alibi, the one that required Anastasia to have been inexplicably lost, to have obliviously wandered the wrong direction uphill on an unmarked cemetery road, and to have found just at that time a waiting killer, a killer who did not want to rob or sexually assault his victim, and even didn't want to let his victim know he was there. Forensic evidence showed no sign of struggle, and even showed that Anastasia had been surprised by her killer, that she hadn't even bothered to look around or behind her until the last second of her life. You've obviously never walked through a cemetery at dark if you believe all that was possible.





(2) Byron Case was recorded on tape telling Kelly Moffett that he made it clear to police that he just "couldn't remember things". The fact that police wanted him to come in again, and were so interested in talking to him that they granted him limited immunity (a promise they would not use anything from that specific interview against him) in order to get him in. As he was being asked in August 1998 to come in, you can see the arrogance in his reply, saying "I have more important things to do with my time than, you know, run around in circles" in his refusal. The FBC web site does not have that conversation among its documents; when they say they want people to have all the facts and make up their own minds, I think they're not as interested as they claim to be.



Assuming for sake of argument that Case's alibi was actually true, then his attitude of non-cooperation with police, given that he was one of the last people seen with Anastasia, comes off as someone who didn't give a shit about his so-called "close friend".





(3) When KCMO Police Detective Albert DeValkenaere testified about the arrest of Byron Case, he did not say that Case resisted arrest, he merely described the arrest, and told how Case had turned and run from him and other officers, and had closed and tried to lock his bedroom door before being subdued and arrested. He let the jury fill in the blanks, but the conclusion was obvious. As for him crying, we got that after the trial from a different officer.



Please don't play semantics with the issue. There is no doubt that he fled from officers and tried to lock his bedroom door in one desperate attempt to elude arrest. The question is "Why did he do it". Your response (ignoring the claim that he really didn't resist) is that he "was frightened". Granted that he was probably scared shitless by what was happening, but if he were innocent, turning and running would be the absolute last thing he would want to do, as that exact action has gotten more than one suspect shot. It had only been a couple of days since he'd refused to answer Kelly Moffett's question, "Why did you have to kill her?", and he ran because he knew exactly why they were there: to arrest him for the murder of Anastasia WitbolsFeugen.





(4) Again, when you make your claims on the FBC site about no DNA evidence, etc., it is what you don't say that tells the most about you. You don't talk about the implied confession that was audiotaped.



The jury never got to see how arrogantly Case behaved toward Anastasia's family, making bogus threats of lawsuits, harassing one of Anastasia's best friends because she had told police about an overheard conversation in 1997 that implicated Case in the murder (just ask Tara McDowell about that one). They didn't need to see that; they got nearly the full flavor of Byron Case from that conversation.






(5) Two nights before Case killed Anastasia, she wrote a letter to Justin in a Word document venting her spleen at Justin, and at Byron Case. Case claimed in his July '99 interview to have never seen the letter before, but since he spent the night before the murder at Justin's home, it's not a really credible claim.



And again, as for your claim of Anastasia's email, you'd have to produce that email with all headers visible to prove that it came from her. Even assuming it to be real, you seem to believe that everything written was absolutely honest, and that a person as vain as Byron Case would not respond to empty flattery. Of course he would do so, and Anastasia was actually brighter than case was. Please produce that email with its headers, as well as Case's reply (also with headers) to show that this was an exchange between true friends.



I'm not holding my breath.





(6) So many of you have said you've read the entire transcript of the trial, yet you never remember these things. We actually have that particular question to Case annotated on our transcript. Since you've already read the whole thing at least once, I leave it to you to do the rest of the work on it.





(7) When Case was exchanging emails with Anastasia's family in the months following the murder, he would alternate between calling her a close friend and then telling how annoying she was. I have close friends who can be obsessive about such things (and I note that your side is real big on the word "obsessive", despite it being Evelyn Case who used to vandalize out guestbook), but I dealt with them (if they were friends) in a much different manner, and I know of no true friend who ever treated another in as shitty a way as Byron Case treated Anastasia.






(8) Honest thought is that I know you never believed that we would get a copy of your email; you sent it out to members of FBC and never expected to be ratted out. It matters not; you did it, and your motives were malicious, and it is more telling that none of your friends called you out for it. It's not just that you were an asshole for doing it, it's that the rest of the FBC group were all assholes for implicitly approving of your behavior.





(9) I don't need an answer to this one, but please do not try to deny your and Byron Case's heavy cocaine use; we have some documentation on that one, from a source you would never expect.




(10) As of yesterday when I checked (just to be certain), Byron Case STILL has a Felony Stealing conviction on his criminal record. It was NEVER reduced to a misdemeanor. No matter what Evelyn Case believes, her son is once, twice, three times a felon (Stealing, Murder One, ACA). Knowing some of her other statements, I believe that Byron Case still can't tell the truth about himself, and none of you are willing to challenge him on a lie.

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Posted by Frank Jung on September 16, 2008 at 4:26 PM

"A Wanker" has stated that he is not Aaron Vermeulen, but he still uses the same tactics, calling me "full of hate" and telling me to "let it go", without making any effort to tell anyone else the same, and doing so behind an alias. If this were truly a disinterested third party, he'd have no fear of putting his name on his posts, as I have. Instead, he uses a sockpuppet, and his first post was an attack. What were the odds?

People on my side, who have taken little or no part in this discussion, have been attacked and libeled as pedophiles and killers; I've just reported the true facts about two of the main attackers. Since "A Wanker" has now decided to answer my questions, it is painfully obvious who he was all along. Nice try, Aaron. Actually that's not true; pathetic try, Aaron.

(1) Why has Byron Case consistently tried to hide the fact that he knew all along that he was a suspect?
The "reply":

You can't be a suspect without any evidence against you. If the police believed Byron Case was a suspect, why couldn't they have made an arrest before Kelly Moffett came forward?


Case was a suspect all along because he was one of the last three people to have been seen with Anastasia, and his alibi was suspicious. The police already knew that Anastasia had neither struggled with nor run from an assailant, and his alibi would have required such actions. If you disagree, please come up with a believable scenario which does not violate the known forensic evidence.

That, plus Case admitted to Anastasia's family in an email that he knew he was a suspect, and he admitted during his own testimony in court that he knew he was a suspect. For reference please go here (http://www.stasia.org/case_aga... and here (http://www.stasia.org/case_aga...

However, "suspect" and "defendant" are not the same thing, and a prosecution required more evidence to present to a jury. That evidence came from Kelly Moffett's eyewitness statement, and from Case's own tacit confession.

As far as why did police not arrest him, that answer was contained in the Appellate Court rejection of his first appeal. Case argued that police should not have gotten the taped conversation between him and Moffett, as they had probable cause to arrest him when Moffett came forward. The Court's reply was that "Case might be right that the police had probable cause to arrest him in September 2000. But, there 'is no constitutional right to be arrested,' and the police 'are under no constitutional duty to call a halt to a criminal investigation the moment they have the minimum evidence to establish probable cause.'



(2) Why did Case refuse to come in to speak to police when asked in 1998, telling them that he had "more important things to do"?
The "reply":
He had already told them everything he knew by 1998.


And that was HIS call to make? The police asked him to come in multiple times, and he refused. Either he was the most arrogant asshole to ever be innocent, or he was avoiding having to answer the same questions again and risk tripping up.


(3) Why did Case resist arrest? And why does his web site lie about his arrest?
The "reply":
Had he actually resisted arrested, he would have been charged with that as well.


Police testimony during the trial was that he resisted arrest. There is no grey area here. This attempt at rewriting history is again pathetic. Yeah, they had him for Murder One and Armed Criminal Action; why not slap a 30-day sentence for Resisting as well? Yeah, right.

He closed his bedroom door because he was frightened.

Why was he "frightened" of police, who were easy to recognize and were identifying themselves? Because they were there to arrest him for murder. Any normal (i.e., innocent) person would have stood there and raised their hands, and hoped for an explanation.

The description on the web site is a plain lie, probably told by Case himself. You know he was not "dragged from his bed" because he ran from the living room into his bedroom and was busy trying to push his door closed when they subdued him. He was informed as soon as he was handcuffed on what charges he was being arrested, and he was informed of his Miranda rights. He asked no questions of the officers; one of the officers said he bawled like a baby while being taken away.

Robert WitbolsFeugen might know something about resisting arrest, though.

Gotcha Aaron! God, you are such a wanker. You claim you're just a third party, but you couldn't resist standing up and exposing yourself, could you? Yeah, WitbolsFeugen has been a political activist since Anastasia's murder and has pissed off several members of the legislature. They had him arrested for "resisting arrest"; what crime was he resisting being arrested for? "Disorderly conduct"; when was he doing this "disorderly conduct"? While they were arresting him. It's a vicious circle: can't have done the first crime without the second, and can't have done the second crime without the first. This was a political arrest to shut a critic down.

But you know all about that Aaron. I've seen a few of your rants on politics, some of which are well thought out. You hate the Republicans, but you use their tactics here, always trying to misdirect. Why is that?



(4) Why, when directly asked why he killed Anastasia, did Case change the subject instead of responding with a denial? Why, after changing the subject, did he continue to advise Kelly Moffett to deal with police by saying "I don't remember"?
And an honest reply:
The telephone recording isn't something I am prepared to defend at this point.


Waiting for your buddy Byron to give you his "explanation"? Well, he didn't come up with one at trial, for all the months of preparation he had.

What you have never understood (or at least have never admitted to) is that it was never and issue of what the Prosecution didn't have against him ("No DNA!" "No weapon!" "No motive that we believe!"), but what it DID have against him, and his own words were among the most damning evidence they had.

She asked him, "[W]hy, seriously, why did you have to kill her?" He gave her silence.

She asked again, "[E]xplain to me as to why you actually felt the need to kill her," and he gave her silence again.

When she said, "I mean, was there, seriously, any reason to all of this?", his reply was "We shouldn't talk about this."

A moment later, he told her that he had "immunity" (a concept he was quite mistaken about), and then told her "I told my lawyer flat out that I didn�t -- I wasn�t going to remember things. Told the cops that, too. I was, like, 'I can�t remember things'," and then advised her to do the same whenever she spoke to them.


These were the words the jury heard, and these words more than anything else convicted him. He had numerous opportunities to protest, to tell her she was crazy for accusing him, and it was already known during his trial that he knew at the time that he was a suspect (why else would they have called Kelly in for questioning as often as they did?), and the rationalizations just do not work.


(5) Why would Anastasia, two nights before her murder, send a letter to Justin Bruton with the specific phrase that "Byron can go fuck himself"?
The "reply":
I'll answer your question with a question: If they weren't good friends, why did Anastasia send an email to Byron a month prior to her murder pleading with him for advice, saying he was the only person she could talk to?

Provide your documentation for this claim, proving that such an email actually came from Anastasia, just as I showed the path from which your "Surprise from FBC" email sprang. I've never seen this email. Case made no effort to introduce it at trial to show that they were good friends, and I suspect it's just another manufactured after the fact item.

And you still did not answer my question. Why did Anastasia write her letter only two nights before her murder, making no effort to keep it from Case's eyes, if they were such "good friends"? You can read the letter in its entirety here: "http://www.stasia.org/case_aga...".



(6) Why did Byron Case complain that, because of Anastasia, he was able to spend less time with Justin?
Provide documentation of this.

Testimony of Evelyn Case, State v. Case. It's on our web site. Byron Case was questioned about that during his own cross-examination, and he could not contradict his mother's testimony.



(7) Why did Case, only weeks before the murder, leave such a vicious message on his pager, a message that even one of his defense witnesses admitted was out of line?
Because Anastasia was obsessed with Justin Bruton and paged Byron Case often attempting to track Justin down. That would irritate just about anyone.

The actual message was "Leave a message unless this is Anastasia. Nobody is going to bother to call you back," a message that even his defense witness, Tara McDowell, admitted in testimony that she felt was far over the line and simply mean. Case used a similar defense in his testimony, but this is not the kind of message you leave for a "good friend", especially a message that all your other friends to hear.



(8) Why did Aaron Vermeulen send out an unsolicited email to members of the FBC group with personal contact information other than for the sole purpose of attempting to instigate harassment against them and/or their families?
The "reply":
8) You already know the answer to that one.

So, the answer is that you are an arrogant asshole and that you really were trying to incite harassment in a pathetic attempt at "revenge", and you now refuse to address it now because you're such a coward.

Some more:

(9) Aaron, why did you consider those times of consuming quantities of cocaine with Byron and then playing video games to be the "good old days"? Evelyn Case (on this forum, 6/14/07) blamed his cocaine use on having been "turned on to it" by someone. Was it you? Or did he get you interested in it?

(10) Evelyn also (in that same post) still insists that her son's felony conviction for stealing was reduced to a misdemeanor. This is untrue; he was identified during his trial (years after that conviction) as a prior felony offender, while he was in the courtroom, and he made no effort to argue the point. Did he forget? Is Evelyn just hallucinating? Or did Byron Case just lie to his friends and family, telling them he'd gotten it reduced?

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Posted by Frank Jung on September 15, 2008 at 4:33 PM

1) You can't be a suspect without any evidence against you. If the police believed Byron Case was a suspect, why couldn't they have made an arrest before Kelly Moffett came forward?

2) He had already told them everything he knew by 1998.

3) Had he actually resisted arrested, he would have been charged with that as well. He closed his bedroom door because he was frightened. Robert WitbolsFeugen might know something about resisting arrest, though.

4) The telephone recording isn't something I am prepared to defend at this point.

5) I'll answer your question with a question: If they weren't good friends, why did Anastasia send an email to Byron a month prior to her murder pleading with him for advice, saying he was the only person she could talk to?

6) Provide documentation of this.

7) Because Anastasia was obsessed with Justin Bruton and paged Byron Case often attempting to track Justin down. That would irritate just about anyone.

8) You already know the answer to that one.

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Posted by A Friend on September 15, 2008 at 9:54 AM

I am not Aaron Vermeulen. I am just a reader of this blog who is interested in both sides of the story. So far, neither side has convinced me of anything outside of the fact that BOTH sides hate each other. Since you are the most vocal on here, I singled you out for being the most obvious hater.

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Posted by A Friend on September 15, 2008 at 9:31 AM

And again, they cannot answer any questions, they dodge the issues, all they do is attack the questioner.

"A Friend" is Aaron Vermeulen, again hiding behind anonymous sockpuppets and pretending to be multiple individuals. In politics, it's called a "concern troll". He is accusing me of making "personal attacks" against "people on this message board", which is to say he can dish it out but can't take it.

The Hate was started by the FBC group. The FBC group is the one whose attacks against members of the victim's family were baseless and slanderous. The FBC group engaged in deliberate acts of stalking and attempts at harassment. The FBC group has made their attacks anonymous, claiming a fear of the very kinds of attacks in which they've engaged. They've shown themselves to be universally cowardly, and when truthful responses were made against them they retreated and now are begging me to stop, while accusing me of having all their own evil motives.

Karma really is a bitch, isn't it Aaron? It's come back to bite you squarely in the ass.

I still have eight questions out there. No one wants to answer them, but only to attack me. What does that say for them? It says they know that they are wrong and that the only thing they can do to mask it is to attack me and run from the issues. Yeah, Karl Rove MUST be a Byron Case supporter.

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Posted by Frank Jung on September 13, 2008 at 11:33 AM

Frank Jung, I don't support Byron Case. But I do think that you do your cause a severe and major disservice by posting such personal attacks against people on this message board. You come off as exactly what I suspect you are: a man who is simply full of hate and using this as an outlet for that hate. Let go, dude or in the alternative, at least shut the fuck up for awhile.

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Posted by A Friend on September 13, 2008 at 9:22 AM

From here on out, you are not "A Friend" or "Anonymous", but "A Coward" or "A Total Wanker". You who play this high-school game of ring and run, anonymously hiding behind your sockpuppets, are all cowards. I will not answer any of you directly, but I will continue to respond to your obsessions. You never actually defend your beliefs here, you just try to change the subject. As long as you are still here, I'll come back.

As far as your "advice" to "stop hating and let it go", you should direct that advice at Aaron Vermeullen and Evelyn Case. Evelyn still stalks the father of her son's victim, and Aaron tries to incite harassment against members of the victim's family.

Here are some questions for you:

If Byron Case had been such a totally innocent man:

(1) Why has he consistently tried to hide the fact that he knew all along that he was a suspect?

(2) Why did he refuse to come in to speak to police when asked in 1998, telling them that he had "more important things to do"?

(3) Why did he resist arrest? And why does his web site lie about his arrest?

(4) Why, when directly asked why he killed Anastasia, did Case change the subject instead of responding with a denial? Why, after changing the subject, did he continue to advise Kelly Moffett to deal with police by saying "I don't remember"?

If Byron Case was such a good friend to Anastasia:

(5) Why would Anastasia, two nights before her murder, send a letter to Justin Bruton with the specific phrase that "Byron can go fuck himself"?

(6) Why did Byron Case complain that, because of Anastasia, he was able to spend less time with Justin?

(7) Why did Case, only weeks before the murder, leave such a vicious message on his pager, a message that even one of his defense witnesses admitted was out of line?

Here are seven questions. My guess is that you won't come up with a reasonable, rational, or believable answer to a single one. The pattern so far has been to avoid the question entirely by attacking the questioner, by changing the subject, or by otherwise parsing words and playing games with the answer. Is Karl Rove writing your material?

I put these up here to document for all the fact that it is the Byron Case side who has been so obsessive and full of hate all along, and that it is the Byron Case side that cannot answer direct questions honestly or rationally.

Here's a bonus eighth question:

(8) Why did Aaron Vermeulen send out an unsolicited email to members of the FBC group with personal contact information on Kelly Moffett and Patrick Rock, other than for the sole purpose of attempting to instigate harassment against them and/or their families? Aaron promised to answer that one almost two months ago, but has so far avoided it. The act itself, attacking a member of the victim's family, seems itself to be an act of obsession.

You are all cowards. Obsessive, immature, hateful cowards at that. I don't hate you, I just don't respect you.

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Posted by FKJ on September 12, 2008 at 8:42 AM

I agree. All Frank Jung does is come on here and tell people who don't agree with him to fuck off. Some spokesperson for the memory of a murder victim! He reminds me of John Mark Byers (the stepfather of victim Christopher Byers in the West Memphis Three case).

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Posted by Anonymous on September 12, 2008 at 7:31 AM

Frank K. Jung, so full of hate, so unable to find some useful outlet for his anger. Hate is a terrible thing and will ultimately consume you. Stop hating and learn to let go.

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Posted by A Friend on September 8, 2008 at 4:16 PM

First, please understand that you are no "friend" of mine, and that I seek no peace or solace from any of you. As I said in my last post (and as you apparently failed to understand then), I'm not trying to convince any of you; I'm posting rebuttals so that any person who stumbles on this site and sees all the lies written in the name of B. Case can see the other side as well. You don't like me here because you don't like to see any evidence that refutes your claims.

When you have lost a loved one to a violent crime, then and ONLY then are you qualified to give such advice as you so condescendingly offer to me.

Hey, let's try this:

Byron Case is in prison for life without any chance of parole. He will never get out. He will die behind those walls. Get over it. Take a deep breath and let it go. There is more to life than obsessing on some jailbird who's been there for seven years now and will be till he dies. There's more to life than spewing hatred towards the family of his victim and towards the witness who turned in the killer. Just let it go.

Now, read that last paragraph again a few times. Didn't that feel condescending to you? It's exactly how anything you say comes out to me. You want to argue that Case is alive and Anastasia is not? He killed her, so yes we still have a bit of a grudge about that. You want to argue that Case is innocent? No he is not. He has not proven that to any appeals court, and your "evidence" has not moved that debate any further.

I hate to have to repeat this point again, but apparently you all are slow learners.

I came on to this blog because I was sick and tired of Aaron Vermeulen sending out his threats that he was going to produce some "real dirt" on people, accusing Anastasia's family of things he could not prove, and laughing like a nasty little boy. When he sent out an email to his friends on FBC with Patrick Rock's and Kelly Moffett's personal contact info with an implied invitation to all to harass them, I've called him on that a number of times and he has never yet had the guts to explain it, or even apologize for it. In his last post here, he said he'd explain his letter, but that was in mid-July. He's been in hiding since.

We are fully aware that the anonymous attacks against Patrick and against Anastasia's father are "courtesy" of Evelyn Case, who continues to stalk Robert WitbolsFeugen to this day. Several months ago, she called Robert's house to ask his wife if they were divorcing. She was apparently disappointed at the negative reply, but it didn't stop her from ranting for over 20 minutes about her darling boy. They recorded part of the conversation and reported it to the Victim's Liaison with the Jackson County Prosecutor's Office. She tried to call the police anonymously and accuse Patrick of molestation. We all know it was you, Evelyn, and you're more likely a molester than Patrick. You let your son be molested and never dealt with it.

I don't monitor this blog, but my search engine keeps pulling it up whenever someone posts some new, obsessive comment. The search engine just reports when any site containing Anastasia's name gets updated, and there are over 200 comments on this blog, the vast majority of them vicious attacks from you people.

I do not obsess about Anastasia. I help Patrick maintain her memorial in order to keep alive the memory of a good person who died long before her time. What's your excuse? You believe Case is innocent? Then prove it, dammit. Show me proof consistent with the facts already known. Show me that Justin Bruton killed Anastasia in a scenario that matches evidence. Aaron claims Robert WitbolsFeugen did it, but cannot present a scenario in which he COULD have done so.

Case has already been convicted and has lost two (actually three) appeals, and his web site has never bothered to tell you that bad news (hard to raise funds when there's no appeal; guess he's just using the money for cigarettes and pay per view now). This case is past the time of trying to reintroduce old issues that were taken care and disposed of in pre-trial, trial, or appeal. If you have nothing new, then you have nothing at all.

And so, "A Friend", I don't hate anyone on here, I just don't respect anyone here. I disrespect Aaron because he's spread so many lies and exaggerations, and seems to enjoy the masturbatory schadenfreude he gets from attacking others in his obscene game of ring and run. I disrespect Evelyn Case because of all her anonymous spamming of our memorial site's guest book, the fact that she cannot admit the shitty job she did creating that monster. I have no respect for the rest of you because you're all so willing to accept and believe Case's lies, so much that you completely ignore any evidence that disagrees with those lies.

If you'd like me to "let go", here's the way: take your whiny complaints about what a raw deal Byron Case got onto your Facebook site, or just put new posts in the FBC guestbook, or JUST TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE PRIVATE. If you want to make public comments on a space like this, where everyone has the opportunity to reply, I promise I will reply. Otherwise, fuck off.

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Posted by Frank Jung on September 6, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Frank K. Jung, please try to get over it already. Go out someplace. Have a drink. Have sex. Read a book. Join a social group. Do something, anything outside of obsessing over a girl who has been dead for years and the man who is now in prison for life for her murder.

Everything is as you want it now. Just take a deep breath. Let go. There is more to life than just going on and on about something that you have no control over anymore. The people that you hate on here are not going to give you the sort of peace that you are seeking, that is for sure. All you are doing is feeding your own hate and theirs. Can't you see that you are not going to change anyone's mind or that neither are they going to change yours?

Let go.

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Posted by A Friend on September 4, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Jamie, I thought I'd give it a day to see if you or anyone else from FBC wanted to distance yourself from "Uncle" here, but it's apparent that you do not or cannot. I'm guessing this clown thought it would be hilarious to turn your regular "ring and run" game into something even more juvenile, insulting the memory of a murder victim and anyone associated with her. He/she must have expected to enrage me, but has failed in that attempt. "uncle" only serves to confirm what I've said all along about the majority of this group: they are pathetic.

The fact that no one on your side has ever repudiated such actions just paints you with the same brush that "uncle" uses. It's infantile, and it does nothing to help the object of your concern.

I will not try to match "uncle"'s attempts at bad poetry, but instead inject a taste of reality: Byron Case has already failed in his first two appeals, and they were his big guns. He might be able to concoct another one or two appeals, but they will be increasingly desperate and will be proportionately bigger failures. Byron Case will spend the rest of his life in prison, and he will die within those walls. If any of you believed differently, you wouldn't waste your time on activities like "uncle" has. The fact that any of you resort to such childish behavior shows how hopeless your cause is.

And he deserves to be there. You keep harping on what they didn't produce at his trial, but won't own up to what they DID produce: in effect, he confessed to the murder in his conversation with Kelly Moffett by his specific refusal to talk about it.

Jamie, while I disagree with your perspective, I respect your right to have it. However, if you cast your lot with creeps like "Uncle" here (and you are known by the company you keep), then I have no respect for you at all.

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Posted by Frank Jung on August 15, 2008 at 3:58 PM

There once was a girl named Stasia
Whose face got blown off with gun

Her creepy cousin went nuts
And now to get his rocks off
He uses the Plog as a soapbox

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Posted by Uncle David on August 14, 2008 at 3:03 PM

"Nicole", if you're going to be a sockpuppet for Aaron, at least you could try to sound different than him. Instead of addressing the issues, you simply attack those who disagree with your view of reality. Are you all sure you're not the Bush Administration?

The Don Rand "third party" is an example of cherry picking, as it's obvious from both his statements to police and his cross-examination that he did not see anyone arguing or looking upset, and it's also obvious that he saw an eastbound vehicle on the south side of the road and not a westbound one on the north side. By carefully avoiding that, and going only with his discredited direct testimony (the stuff that he had to admit on cross was false), you cherry-picked that information.

By ignoring Byron Case's tacit admission, you cling to the claim that Kelly Moffett's testimony was the only thing used to convict Case. That is cherry-picking.

You keep claiming that Kelly Moffett was an "embittered ex-girlfriend" who would put herself through the hell of testifying in a murder trial just as "revenge" for Case breaking up with her, yet ignore the fact that Moffett broke up with Case (not the other way around), and that it was nearly two years before she talked to prosecutors. By carefully misstating the facts, you make it sound like it all happened in a period of weeks. Cherry picking.

By ignoring Byron Case's August 1998 phone conversation with the detective, the one in which he refused to come in for an interview and said he "had better things to do", you claim that Case had no idea he was a suspect and that he cooperated with police.

Even though you already knew the facts of Robert WitbolsFeugen's life insurance policies (took them out on his entire family, and only when a salesman called), you still present it like important evidence. The only evidence it presents is to show just how far you will go to misinterpret facts to your own advantage. Cherry picking.

By putting on the FBC website an absolutely false statement about Case's arrest, you make it sound like he was "disappeared" by the Secret Police, that he was "dragged from his bed" and that his pleas of "why?" were met with silence. The fact was (according to official reports that he did not challenge in court) that Police came to his house wearing uniforms that could not be mistaken. Case saw them, turned, ran, and tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He was subdued, handcuffed, informed that he was under arrest for the murder of Anastasia WitbolsFeugen, and read his rights. Your story is not even cherry picking, it's just making shit up.

And "Nicole", just in case you're not Aaron and are just another pathetic sycophant of Case's, my advice is to look in a mirror before you throw stones. I don't expect you to "beleive" my "story", as (A) mine is not the "story" here; I'm just rebutting the falsehoods put out by Aaron and the FBC circle jerk, and (B) you are nothing but a True Believer, and you will believe black is white no matter what proof otherwise is shown you. I wouldn't try to make you believe anything else any more than I'd try to convert a Jehovah's Witness. Just isn't worth expending the breath.

And I'm comfortable with my life and my career, and I don't hide my name, unlike those of you who have to hide your identities behind aliases and sockpuppets. I'm just not comfortable with ignorant people insulting Anastasia's memory by telling so many lies to make her killer seem "innocent". This blog's original writer was correct: Byron Case is a sociopath.

I'm not trying to convince YOU, I'm putting this out to protect any innocent bystanders who might stumble across this and actually believe the paranoiac rants of a convicted murderer's fan club if there was no rebuttal.

Aaron and Evelyn made a point of slandering people with false information, so I responded with facts about them and about their boy, facts that they are not comfortable with. They put up claims about the murder and investigation, I put up facts to rebut those claims.

Got anything constructive to add to the debate? Something other than mindless attacks? No? Then you're just wasting bandwidth, which is what you seem to do best.

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Posted by F K Jung on August 14, 2008 at 9:05 AM

FKJ .. ok .. first of all i think the only reason you are on here is (1) you dont have a happy life ( that shit is obvious) go get layed or something ..(2) i seriously think you are on here to confuse everyone into beleiveing your story .. "you cherry pick small items you think will "prove" your assertions" -FKJ .. you talk about yourself and don't even realize it.

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Posted by Nicole on August 13, 2008 at 9:52 PM

Jamie,

FJK... FKJ??


It's the latter. Frank K. Jung. BTW, Jung was Anastasia's maternal grandfather's name as well. We're all distantly related to the psychiatrist Carl Jung.

Anyway, Yes... I was snitched on by a guy.


I did not mention your criminal past to embarrass you, so the confession was not really necessary. I apologize if it came over that way. Besides, I already knew your record. I brought it up because Byron Case wants us all to believe that he is a victim of (1) a vindictive and pathological liar of an eyewitness, (2) corrupt police, (3) a ruthlessly ambitious prosecutor, (4) an easily misled jury, (5) an incompetent defense attorney, and (6) a lazy and indifferent judge, and I asked you (in so many words) as someone with that kind of experience, whether you honestly believe from all your experiences that every single one of those misfortunes happened to him, as it requires all six for him to be as lily-white innocent as you believe and still be convicted, according to his official story.

I doubt you have the depth of character to hack it in a place like that though


You're probably right, I lack so much "depth of character" that I've never gotten in trouble with the law outside of a traffic ticket. At the same age where you were doing all your self-described "dumb stuff", and Byron Case was doing cocaine and playing video games with friends, I was working my way through college, earning a Bachelors and Masters . . . sorry that I'm so comparatively shallow. I now work in a private criminalistics lab. And just as you do, I work hard and I earned everything I own. And having seen so many lives destroyed or damaged by crime, I have an acute appreciation for life, just as you do, if for different reasons.

Now, if we're finished trading insults, let's actually discuss the case.

well, I did get to read a lot you know, the state is required to furnish any and all evidence . . . A lot of discussions.


In the course of this forum you stated that I seem to remember reading in the transcript (for one source) about how the forensic investigator (who was an intern filling in while the "main man" was away on vacation) (June 4, 2007), when the "main man" (Jackson County Medical Examiner) DID perform the autopsy, while the DEPUTY Jackson County Medical Examiner testified when he was unavailable, and contrary to your belief from your reading, no "intern" was involved. For all that reading and discussion, your interpretations are selective, almost as if you read and interpreted things through the filter of Byron Case. I don't think you're now capable of removing the filter to view the evidence without the bias of your friendship.

One of your last comment involved your personal (and IMO baseless) speculation that Kelly Moffett could have been threatened by prosecutors to get her to testify, which is a change from the original party line of "she did it for the money" or "she did it for revenge". This is the second reason I mentioned your time in the pen; my job sometimes requires working closely with ex-cons, and while I have no problem with guys (and women) who have served their time, owned up to their mistakes, and are now on the straight and narrow, I have noted that many if not most of them casually accept the concept that ANY con who makes such a claim is to automatically be believed. But stories like that involve snitches with prior records trying to avoid hard time. Kelly Moffett had no prior record, and had been the one to approach the Prosecutor's office. And besides, you've deviating from Official Party Line. Most ex-cons who have done hard time also claim to have a sixth sense for telling whether someone is lying or not, yet in practice have no such ability. They make mistakes and trust the wrong people as much as anyone without prison time, if not more.

but I can say I was never in fear of Byron Case at any moment, ever. He's not a murderer... doesn't have it in him.


And I'm sure that it's possible he doesn't "have it in him". . . at least not now. I'm sure he didn't have it in him byt the time he was arrested in 2001, having gotten his desire to kill out in 1997. You didn't meet Case until he had a reason to appear benign and harmless, when he needed help from all. You make a poor character reference, if only because you never saw the arrogance and general manipulativeness of the cocaine-using high school dropout when he hung around Kansas City's coffeehouses. The third reason I brought up your background is that I have never met a single person who admitted to a crime who believed they would or could get caught for their crime at the time they committed it. This goes from shoplifting all the way up to murder. Byron Case, whether or not he ever admits to the murder, did not believe he'd be caught for it. That's why he was so uncomfortable talking directly about the murder to Kelly Moffett on that tape, yet had no problem a minute later advising her to tell police that she "couldn't remember" if they asked her any hard questions. "Doesn't have it in him"? Well, you weren't crowding out his time with his best friend (a best friend who occasionally bought him drugs and gave him a place to crash) as Anastasia did, you didn't see through and challenge his bullshit the way Anastasia did, and he was living in a tightly controlled and monitored world with consequences for his actions when you knew him, something that was not true when he killed Anastasia. There are at least two Byron Cases here (probably more): the one who lived off of friends and family, told lies about himself and his family, and thought himself immune to the consequences of his actions, and the one who got caught. That second one still tells lies, but he's more careful about them.

And this note to all: I really am not attmpting to change your mind. If you believe this, you believe it, and no amount of counter argument will sway you. But if you all plan to go on a public board like this and repeat false and/or unverifiable claims, I will challenge them. If you keep bringing up arguments that you wouldn't dare use in court for lack of evidence (or for the equally important reason that the court has already considered the argument and disagreed), I will challenge that. If you try to answer reasonable arguments with personal attacks, remember that it is a double-edged sword, and you may cut yourselves if you draw it again.

I'm still waiting for Aaron to return and "explain" the email he passed around to members of FBC with Rock's and Moffett's personal contact information, to explain how it was anything but an incitement to harass them, and exactly how he thought such an action would help Byron Case's claims of innocence. I'm also waiting for him to explain his "98% true" claim that he made at that time.

I'm also still waiting for the FBC site to explain how Byron Case could have been arrested and not told why without a Miranda objection being raised at his trial. I'm waiting for them to explain exactly which "prosecution witnesses" Kelly Moffett's testimony was at odds with, and exactly which of the "very laws of physics" did her testimony defy. I'm still waiting for them to prove that Don Rand saw anything that "vouched for Byron case's innocence" without having to stretch the laws of physics themselves.

You can make all the unverifiable and false claims you want on behalf of Byron Case, but they ARE lies, and you all know it. And if you know they're lies, then you know he's guilty.

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Posted by Frank Jung on August 8, 2008 at 10:25 AM

FJK... FKJ?? Anyway, Yes... I was snitched on by a guy. He had once been a really good friend, but he wanted to get to my girlfriend, and took me out by telling the cops about burglaries we had done together. Yep... did 'em all. The prosecutor was fair, and the judge was just. I was guilty and plead so as well... I knew it was wrong also!! Imagine that. I just did dumb stuff when I was young and got a 14 year prison sentance out of stealing about 3,000 dollars. Seemd fair to the state of Missouri... I did my time for my wrongs against society, and a professional board of people who work for the state of Missouri deemed my time fair and just and decided to release me back out into society. I'm sorry they didn't contact you regarding this, but hey, you are of little matter to anyone anyways, right? So, nowadays I work and earn everything I have and have a real appreciation for life and not wasting it... sound like you could learn a thing or two from a "stint". I doubt you have the depth of character to hack it in a place like that though, so you might be better off. All that time spent with Byron however, living in a cell with him 24 hours a day... well, I did get to read a lot you know, the state is required to furnish any and all evidence against an accused TO the accused. A lot of discussions. Strange thing is, I've spent a lot of time with murderers and such... but I can say I was never in fear of Byron Case at any moment, ever. He's not a murderer... doesn't have it in him.

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Posted by Jamie Jessop on August 7, 2008 at 9:36 PM

Aaron, I'm all for "tactful" and "compassionate" if you're game to try it. However, I really DO expect a rational explanation for your having sent out that email last year. Since you refrained from name-calling in your last post, I will also.

We already have the letter you quoted from Byron Case. You sent it to Patrick in 2002, among the emails you sent out. It quotes the police report that you already mentioned in your other post. Again, on the day that report was made, it was absolutely obvious where Anastasia's body had fallen (I've seen photos that Robert shot of the area from that day), though perhaps not the exact angle, and her father was in an understandably agitated state. It should also be noted that the officer who made that report (Epperson) later testified for the prosecution in Case's trial. The only cross-examination he got was whether or not he could tell if the act "was committed by a stranger or an acquaintance of the victim". He had an opportunity to ask about Robert WitbolsFeugen and did not.

And before you fall back on the tired old "incompetent lawyer" argument, it should be noted that Byron Case has already run that appeal through the courts and didn't blame his attorney for that "mistake". You have to expect that he had a hand in his own defense strategy, since he had him offer evidence of the distance from the Amoco to Inland Drive, when that never came up in court otherwise. In addition, Case already lost his appeal on "Ineffective Counsel", an appellate court having ruled against him in February and the Missouri Supreme Court refused to consider it in May, so his arguments about an "incompetent lawyer" are over and done with as far as appeals go. If you're trying to free your guy from prison, arguing issues that the court has already ruled upon (and which cannot be used any further as a basis for appeal) is a waste of time.

You seem to be depending a lot on the idea that if there's not a document declaring Robert WitbolsFeugen innocent, he must still be under suspicion. In debate, that is called an "argument from ignorance" (argumentum ad ignorantiam): if you cannot prove me wrong, then I must be right, regardless of whether I have any evidence myself.

It doesn't work that way. Cops don't make reports saying "I have checked this suspect out and he/she is clean". As many times as Robert WitbolsFeugen requested interviews with Sgt. Kilgore, and as hostile as they had been toward each other, if he had been considered even the slightest bit suspect, Kilgore would have run him down with a tank and grilled him at least one time when he had the opportunity. He didn't do so.

You keep wanting to cast aspersions, but you could call Sgt. Kilgore at the Sheriff's Department today and ask him whether or not he suspected Robert. You don't do that. It seems you'd rather keep false suspicion alive than have it confirmed or refuted. You're more interested in the issue than its resolution.

As for the insurance policy, Case wrote his letter to you BEFORE you wrote your letter to Patrick apologizing for having put up such "crazy questions". I am assuming that this issue is closed for good now, and that you understand that Robert took policies out on his entire family, NOT just Anastasia.

And I asked earlier for you to show DELIBERATE intent to mislead on Robert's part, as opposed to a distraught father battling with a frustratingly slow police investigation, and I've seen nothing there.

I've answered your latest issues, and I'm still waiting for you to respond to the issue of the tacit admission, with something other than what the jury already heard and rejected.

Do your own research!


We did, and I do not consider a letter from the convicted killer trying to cast aspersions and suspicion upon others in the case for which he was convicted to be much research in itself.

Take your time if you wish, I'm busy with other stuff for the weekend and the next day or two afterward.

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Posted by Frank Jung on July 18, 2008 at 9:40 AM

Working on a post. Didn't want to write something down in a hurry. Wanted to be tactful and show a little more compassion and sympathy. On my upcoming post I will discuss several things, including my reasoning for my e-mail, which was in fact 98% true.



In the mean time, I will share
this letter that Byron sent me six years ago, before I started researching the case for myself. Do your own research!
AV out. :)




September 17th, 2002



Dear Aaron,


Oh man, you would have to ask me for specifics about the Sheriff's Department investigation! It's cool, though; I needed to get back into that pile of paperwork for a little refresher course, anyway.



The report I mentioned in which Robert WitbolsFeugen made his weird appearance in Lincoln cemetery was written by Deputy David Epperson (the officer who originally found Anastasia' S body) and is dated October 24th, 1997. In it, Epperson writes that he and Deputies Montgomery and Ebert went to Lincoln Cemetery. He writes: "Upon approaching the circle drive I observed Mr. WitbolsFeugen to be standing with his hands on his hips standing directly over the exact location where I had found Anastasials body on 10-23-97. Mr. WitbolsFeugen was looking at the ground for approximately five seconds before turning around and seeing me. Upon seeing me he appeared startled and turned around walking very quickly towards my police vehicle with his left hand tucked firmly in his pocket. Mr. WitbolsFeugen approached me and asked �Am I close?� referring to where the body was found. I again advised Mr. WitbolsFeugen that he should contact the detective unit for specific information and he spontaneously stated �what are you guys doing following me? 1�m not the bad guy. You guys should be out looking for the bad guy!� I then attempted to calm him down by advising him that we were there to check his closure to his grief."
This same report makes mention of Robert w.� s claim that he was in the vicinity at about 11: 30 on the evening of the 22nd when he heard a gunshot. The report reads: "I observed Mr. WitbolsFeugen's demeanor change when he began talking about the gunshot and describe his actions upon hearing [it]. He appeared to switch from grieving parent to excited and colorful, describing in detail his emotion upon hearing the gunshot."




The life insurance policies Robert W. had on Anastasia both named him as sole beneficiary and were through Cuna Insurance Company (a $20,000 policy taken out in February of 1992) and J.e. Penny Insurance Company (a $12,000 policy taken out on 10-20-97). I'm not entirely sure if the Penny�s policy paid out or not because, around July of '98, WitbolsFeugen filed a complaint with the company. A Penny's representative told Sergeant Killgore (who was in charge of the investigation) that the only reason they hadn't paid the death benefit was because WitbolsFeugen refused to sign their Indemnity and Hold Harmless Agreement forms. Whatever the hell this was all about, I have no idea.



As far as WitbolsFeugen giving false information goes, there were so many instances of this, I don't know where to begin. The most obvious and blatant example of this was his story about: having seen my white '90 Pontiac 6000LE on Truman Road that night (impossible, because it was at Burch Engine Service for a bad water pump at that time). He changed this story many times. Later versions mention a long procession of cars moving away from the direction of Lincoln Cemetery and my red Merkur XR4Ti (which I didn't even own until July of �98) being one of them. He even went so far as to compile detailed lists of the cars� colors and license plate numbers, which he swore were accurate despite ten months having passed since the night in question. There were more details added to the story as time went on, but he maintained that he saw me racing down the road �white as a sheet".

WitbolsFeugen also lied to police about when he got off work that night, first claiming that he was working until 9:00, then saying he was at a friend's house, then claimed to have been at a meeting after leaving work. I don't know that his alibis were ever actually investigated. There's nothing in the discovery about it, anyway.



Sigh. I think that covers all your questions from that last letter. As always, let me know if you've got more. For right now I'm going to end so I can get this out in the morning mail. More soon, I promise.



Byron

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Posted by Aaron Vermeulen on July 17, 2008 at 8:35 PM

Ooh, you got me. Wait, no, you missed again.

"obsessed crazy man"


Okay, but why are you describing Aaron? He's the one obsessing on Patrick Rock, Robert WitbolsFeugen, and Kelly Moffett, and has been doing so for over six years now. Aaron is the crazy one who makes up stories about his own life.

"spewing venom and personally attacking anyone and everyone that you can"


That's Aaron again, who has actually used the word "hate" to describe his feelings toward those people, and to myself as well. I've only gone after two people, both of whom have constantly soiled themselves with hateful attacks against Anastasia's family, and my "venom" against Aaron has been to bust him on his lies. My "venom" against Evelyn Case (who has never had the courage to put her name to a single slander of hers) has only been to repeat stories that her son told about her. Either Evelyn's a slut and a truly bad parent, or Byron was lying through his teeth. Which is it?

"honor Anastasia? By focusing on your hate?"


Is THIS how you defend Byron Case, by slanderously attacking others? You're all hypocrites.

Anastasia's 29th birthday should have been yesterday, and not a single one of you has the moral right to speak of "honoring" Anastasia.

As for "hate", see the above. You guys already tried this kind of crap on Thoughts.com, trying to claim that Anastasia wouldn't want me to do this. Well, my response, to quote "Mrs. Vermeulen" (I honestly thought that was referring to Aaron's mother when I first saw it), Fuck off. None of you knew her, none of you know what would be in her heart, none of you have even read the letter she wrote two days before her murder that said specifically "Byron can go fuck himself for all I care". As is stated on our website,
she still speaks for us all.

The hatred that has spewed from the FBC group has gone unabated for six years, and this whining that it does now is just proof that they can dish it out, but they can't take it. I have a lot more things I can say about both Aaron and Evelyn, but I made the point so that they know what the golden rule is. THEY'VE been doing to others (and have been lying while at it), so they shouldn't feel so surprised that others might do to them. The other point I made is the one that you're all still afraid to address.

ONE MORE TIME: All you can do is attack, and there's no one listening except yourselves. What you fail to do is honestly defend against the charges raised.

Case made a tacit confession that helped convict him.

Don Rand saw nothing that helped Byron Case's alibi.

When Aaron casts suspicion on Robert WitbolsFeugen, he is just making shit up, deliberately misinterpreting information to assert his "theory", and is using arguments he plainly knows to be false.

Every time you try to change the subject, you are in effect admitting you can't answer the charges, and that the charges are true.

BTW, Aaron, WHY did you send out that email with Rock's and Moffett's personal contact information on it? I say it was an attempt at harassment. What's your excuse? What's that? Silence? "We shouldn't talk about this"? That's a familiar response.

I don't hate any of you, not even Aaron, who's too pathetic to hate. I do, however think that you are all fools and/or liars.

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Posted by Frank Jung on July 15, 2008 at 2:10 PM

FKJ: You do your cause absolutely no good by coming on this forum and acting a like an obsessed crazy person, spewing venom and personally attacking anyone and everyone that you can.

Is this how you have chosen to honor Anastasia? By focusing on your hate?

If so, you have some serious issues.

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Posted by Anonymous on July 15, 2008 at 7:27 AM

Thanks again for using a sockpuppet, Aaron, and showing anyone who sees it your cowardice. You just can't defend yourself, so you create new diversions to further cloud the issue.

And you have NEVER addressed the issues I raised as to Byron Case's guilt, so we have to assume you're accepting them. You've been caught on several incorrect statements and outright lies. You won't address them. You just keep attacking me, hoping no one will remember that Byron Case is really guilty, that the proof is out there, and that you can't rebut it.

And Aaron/John, YOU are the ones with the guerilla tactics. Don Buchwalter is NOT a member of our "camp", just a defector from yours. Other than apologizing to the family for his earlier actions, he has had no contact with us. The truth is, you've all been hiding for a long time before Mr. Buchwalter defected, and a long time before I started calling you on your lies.

Serving legal papers is "stalking"??? Well, welcome to AaronWorld, everyone. A PI took all of 5 minutes to run your name through a police search (she got more information off his criminal record than anywhere else), and it took that much time just to confirm that you hadn't been missed somewhere when he only showed up at his parent's house. But when you've made up such a fake life for yourself, have a real possibility of being directly responsible for your friends' little "social" group being taken down, AND you've spent so much time denying reality, yeah, I guess you can redefine a well-understood legal principal to say that you DON'T stalk but that everyone who doesn't like you DOES stalk.

Stalk you? Don't need to. I live more than a state apart from you, and you still live with your parents. And about a year ago, the FBC web site USED to ask for money, for legal advice, AND . . . wait for it . . . A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR!! For what purpose was YOUR side wanting a P.I.? Don't worry, we ALL know, though I'll bet you weren't worried about already being stalked by someone like Aaron.

You're all hypocrites. You were going to use a P.I. for the same reason you do anything, to hurt people. You're not trying to uncover evidence that will exonerate Case, you just want to harm others.

Just remember, YOU started it. I have copies of all of those crazy emails you wrote to Patrick, making wild accusations, apologizing and then having a nutty again within the same message. We have a history of all the threats you've made, and a list of the people you've stated you hate. We have the complete canon of wild ramblings that Evelyn Case used to anonymously vandalize our guest book. We know it was her who anonymously called police to make accusations against Patrick.

Man, if we ever stooped to YOUR level of attacks, you'd REALLY be crying.

When you can explain rationally why you sent out the email with Patrick's address, only THEN will you be able to discuss "stalking" without everyone laughing at you. Glass houses, asshole. You're nothing but a hypocrite. All you're able to do now is hide behind sockpuppets and accuse me of being a big meanie. I have shown you that we have the proof of your incitement to harass, and you just keep changing the subject when we all know you're lying. As your friend Byron about how well that kind of tactic worked for him.

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Posted by Frank Jung on July 10, 2008 at 5:26 PM

The Missouri Department of Corrections has no business concerning themselves with the actions of private citizens in a public forum. Byron Case doesn't even read things like this, much less have any involvement, either directly or indirectly, with comments made. He's not some great puppet master orchestrating attacks from a correctional center. The fact of the matter is that he doesn't even like to discuss these things.

We "hide" behind aliases because your camp has proven itself to be both malicious and obsessive. Hiring a private investigator for the purpose of locating an address where papers can be served is superfluous and equivalent to stalking. How many people would want to volunteer any identification to you after you admit that you HIRED someone to stalk someone?

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Posted by John Smith on July 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM

FYI, Aaron, I don't live in Missouri, and neither do you. If you DID live in Missouri, where you say internet harassment is a crime, then Patrick Rock and Robert WitbolsFeugen would both have already had your wanker ass in jail and facing civil suit by now. You are the one engaging in harassment, not anyone else.

And BTW, slander and libel are crimes in EVERY state. If you were as brave as you claim, you wouldn't hide behind the internet with your false accusations. You'd put it out there with your signature on it and take your chances, but we all know that you're coward.

Your FBC wankfest has been made up almost entirely of cowards who hide behind anonymous sockpuppets. Actually, it's been mostly made up by you.

Your paranoia, thinking I'm Patrick (when he long ago gave up on engaging any of you) is no different than when you were posting behind sockpuppets on Thoughts.com. You've redefined the word "obsession" again to exclude your apparent need to stalk two middle-aged men and one 20-something woman.

Isn't it ironic that when one a member of the FBC Circle Jerk attacks the family of a murder victim while hiding behind a sockpuppet, you think it's amusing and for a good cause, but when someone from the victim's family, giving their name, does much less to you in response, you want to whine and call it harassment? Go find a lawyer, at least one who could use a laugh. And speaking of internet harassment . . .


Say, Aaron, does THIS look familiar to you?



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Greetings!

This is Aaron Vermeulen,

I've been cleaning out my external hardrive and have a real treat for you .....motherfuckers...

Sorry, I love to cuss.

Those that know me best, know that I'm straight up ruthless! Except no imitations!
Hey when in Rome right? Cheers! :0

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The GIF file attached to your little love-letter was a scan of a hand-written piece of paper which had Patrick Rock's home phone number, along with the name of his company and its phone, cell phone, and his work email. It also contained Kelly Moffett's home address and phone number, along with her workplace info.

So the question remains, Aaron, WHY DID YOU SEND THIS OUT? What reason, other than wanting to incite harassment against these individuals, did you have?

You can deny it if you wish, but we both know it was from you, and we'll both know you're a liar. You won't admit to having done it because you can offer no rational reason for it.

And for someone as busy as you claim to be, you've been posting a buttload of sockppupets today and yesterday. You have a lot of imaginary friends, and even have to get your imaginary wife to defend you. Do you let "her" kiss your "kids" goodnight with that mouth of "hers"? Addressing "her" words to YOU, "You need a hobby and you chose ranting in a free magazine's plog to fulfill that."

You still haven't addressed any of the points I made about your (deliberately) faulty memory, so I'm going to assume you will admit by your silence that you withdraw your claim about Robert WitbolsFeugen's insurance policies. Even though you admitted six years ago that you understood that WitbolsFeugen had taken the policy out on his ENTIRE family, you left the insurance policies up on the site. The reason? Because you always intended to make the same claims again, hoping it would be forgotten.

This is no different than the denials and avoidance that you and others did on Thoughts.com. You all kept changing the subject, attacking me, doing everything EXCEPT address the issues. Why? Because you have no answer for them. Byron Case made a tacit admission of guilt on tape before his arrest, he told an investigator a year after the murder he "had better things to do" than talk to him, he made threats to sue Anastasia's family without grounds (hoping to bluff them), restisted arrest, and gave three variations of his alibi. When no one could answer those questions, you took down the entire blog to avoid letting others read the inconvenient questions that FBC couldn't answer. The difference here is that you can't take the comments down here. Anyone outside your own Wankfest will be able to read just how guilty Case is, and how you just can't explain the holes in his defense. They'll see what a complete loser you are, and how truly guilty Byron Case is.

I think I'll suggest to the family that they point MODOC to THIS blog, ESPECIALLY since you can't take back any of your statements, with the point that most of this is coming from that "social" group you guys have. Do you think any of your internet buddies on FBC will still talk to you when the MySpace group gets kicked off again, just because you can't keep it in your pants?

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Posted by Frank Jung on July 10, 2008 at 7:36 AM

Get an eye full you dumb bastard!!!! My husband is not the liar you claim he is, No not even close. He is a wonderful father, provider, and yes HUSBAND, something you will never compare to in your pathedic life. Once again FUCK OFF! You need a hobby and you chose ranting in a free magazine's plog to fulfill that, but none the less don't fuck with my family. Get a good look at HAPPINESS cause it will be private soon.

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Posted by Mrs. Vermeulen on July 10, 2008 at 12:39 AM

Ha ha ha. You got me! You got the tater! Listen, anyone that knows me and is my friend, has been over to my residence and has met my family. I feel really bad for the absence of purpose in your life.
I'll dig deep and put together something special for you Mr. Rock.

More soon. Your friend,

Aaron Charles Vermeulen

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Posted by Aaron Vermeulen on July 9, 2008 at 9:12 PM
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