Not many people can count a convicted killer on their MySpace buddies list, but there are at least 32 people who have Byron Case.
Case is serving a life sentence in Cameron for the 1997 murder of Anastasia WitbolsFeugen. But he has, for the most part, the average profile of any Hot Topic-wearing, Cure-loving goth kid. His MySpace page, titled Monochrome, indicates that he likes David Lynch films, listens to Skinny Puppy and reads Philip K. Dick. He must get cable TV in his cell, because he's a fan of The Colbert Report and Mythbusters, both shows that hit the airwaves after his May 2002 conviction.
It's Case's MySpace blog that makes his profile interesting.
Before his conviction, he posted what we described in our 2002 profile of Case as "a series of bizarre, Victorian-style letters to an imaginary 'Mr. White.'" It's easy to see his newest blog items as a follow-up. Since launching his MySpace profile in February, he's posted four entries that provide some insights into Case's prison life. Take the posting 'Lunch' for example. (Case seems to favor one-word titles.) Here, Case shuts up a couple of older cons who were joking about another convict serving life for murder:
"Stabbed her thirty, forty times, I think," adds Lee, looking wide-eyed through those Coke bottle glasses. He chuckles a little. My stomach turns.'"Well, I heard he shot her," Mack says.
"Yeah, well he admits to that," I answer, half in his defense. "He's just trying to get it out what she'd been doing to the kids."
You would think a guy who's always maintained his innocence would shy away from defending the admitted murderers. Incidentally, his last two appeals have been shot down.
The rest of the blog includes sprawling, melancholy descriptions of prison sites, sounds and smells: "Standing there like this, my cellmate silently breathing in his sleep a couple of feet away, I see the crystals at the crest of the drift one facet at a time as each momentarily casts the morning rays." Then there's memories of the days he haunted Kansas City coffee shops: "Oblivious, never recognizing the implications of that until the night she broke me over her knee like kindling." There's a certain detachment in the way these things are written, as if after almost five years in prison, Case identifies just as little with the fellow inmates as he did with most people when he was driving around with a chicken carcass impaled on the hood of his car. Maybe it's a case study of a man's removal from himself to survive the tragic injustice of his incarceration. Or he could just be a sociopath. - Peter Rugg
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I came upon this rather bizzare site during a web search for items pertaining to my now deceased daughter. It is, to an outsider, a rather strange and sad place to visit. Way too much arguing, accusations and, quite frankly, silliness about something that has been decided a decade ago and, if revisited, will be decided by a court of law and not arguments on a blog.
BTW, I am not really interested in the case and have no opinions as to it's eventual outcome.
Yes, the truth is still the truth.
It is true that when Byron Case was directly accused by Kelly Moffett of Anastasia's murder, he went silent and changed the subject, after which he coached her on how to avoid admitting anything to police. The truth is that this is NOT the behavior of an innocent man.
It is true that Kelly Moffett was sober when she witnessed Byron Case shoot Anastasia WitbolsFeugen. It is also true that Moffett was sober when she testified to that fact in court on April 29, 2002. And the truth is still the truth.
It is true that Kelly Moffett broke up with Byron Case in December 1998 or January '99. Case did not break up with her, and the breakup was more than a year and a half before she named him as the killer. The characterization of Kelly Moffett as an "embittered ex-girlfriend" is a fable.
It is true that Byron Case knew from the start that he was a suspect in the murder of Anastasia WitbolsFeugen. He admitted this to her family, and he admitted the same under oath in court. It is true that he did everything he could to avoid talking to the police after having given them his first statement. It is true that he was rude and boorish with Anastasia's family in the months following the murder.
It is true that Don Rand, called by the defense as a witness and STILL touted by Case apologists, did not see Justin Bruton's car. It is true that he saw a car on the opposite side of the road and heading in the opposite direction that Bruton's car would have been going. It is true that he told investigators that he could not tell at all whether the woman he saw getting out of that car was upset in any way. It is true that his testimony did nothing to help Case's defense. It is true that Case and his supporters are fully aware of these facts, yet continue to perpetrate the lie.
It is true that Byron Case was convicted by a jury of his peers based upon (1) Kelly Moffett's eyewitness testimony, (2) his own tacit admission of the murder, and (3) his lack of a believable alibi. It is true that his performance on the stand, as well of those of at least three of his friends, was viewed suspiciously by jurors, and that those factors added to their certainty of his guilt.
It is true that Aaron Vermuelen liked to brag to friends about the "good old days" with Byron Case, when they would snort cocaine and play video games. It is true that Byron Case had a worse drug habit and more mental health issues BEFORE Anastasia's murder than Kelly Moffett did AFTER the murder.
It's true that Evelyn Case had no idea during the summer of '97 whether her son was living with her or staying for weeks at a time at Jutin's. It is true that she accepted as gospel everything he told her. It is true that Evelyn Case is now reduced to slandering and stalking people who lost a loved one to her son's actions. It is true that her concept of the "truth" is what her son says is the truth.
It is true that Byron Case murdered Anastasia WitbolsFeugen without conscience, and that he manipulated his girlfriend to lie on his behalf. It is true that Byron Case is in prison for life, and that his appeals with the best chance of success have already been reviewed and rejected by the courts. It is true that he will die behind bars. It is true that he deserves his fate. And that truth is still the truth.
And BTW, Evelyn (and yes, we know those last two posts were yours), I don't answer questions for someone too cowardly to identify themselves. Enough with this "Anonymous" crap. And that's more truth than you can handle, lady.
Frank
when EXACTLY did you meet this leader in person?
Infamous or famous
This reads like a tabloid.
The truth is still the truth, and nothing has changed.
Sorry I've been gone for so long, as we have an election recount going on up here. I knew there were comments (search engine still works), but I've had some higher priorities.
I expected I'd find a couple more goofy comments from another Aaron sockpuppet or three. Imagine my surprise to find only one Aaron sockpuppet, and one in support.
Guys, is it one of you from work? If so, no fair, I can do this myself, though I will say your comments were on the mark.
If it's not a coworker of mine, it's definitely not family, as we almost never refer to Case as "Byron", but by his last name; he's done nothing to earn the respect of being called anything else. Perhaps I should just refer to him as "Inmate 328416". No, I won't, but I don't call him by his first name. I call my friends by their first names, and he is definitely not that.
One correction:
"regardless if he was suffering from a high fever from strep throat"
Case was suffering from a low-grade fever (101 F), not a "high fever", as he claimed. His doctor's evaluation shows that, and you can tell from the tape of his conversation with Kelly Moffett that he was not delerious and had not just woken up. He was sick, no doubt, but delerious? Just another lie/exaggeration by B.C. Case.
As for Vermeulen's (yeah, I'll stop calling HIM by his first name as well; from now on, he's the Wanker) "gothical" post, it's the same old argument, misstatement, and slander as before. Kelly Moffett was neither drunk nor a crack head on the night she witnessed Anastasia's murder; she was neither drunk nor a crack head when she testified in court about that night. And Case was not convicted "solely" on that basis. There was the matter of a bad and unbelievable alibi, and oh yeah, that tacit confession.
You always seem to forget that, don't you, Wanker? Case in effect confessed to the crime, and his alibi violated all logic. Next thing, you'll be going back to Don Rand. How'd that work out for you last time?
At first glance it appears that Byron was convicted largely on the testimony of a single witness. However, there is one rather glaring problem that really stands out, the so-called "tacit admission" of guilt by Byron.
When asked by Kelley Moffett during a taped telephone conversation, " Why did you have to kill her? . . . Could you explain that to me? . . . I mean if you could seriously explain to me as to why you actually felt the need to kill her, then that would really help me feel better about the whole fucking thing," Bryon didn't say, "Look, you are nuts. You know I didn't kill her. Why are you saying this? Go away and leave me alone, I'm sick" or something to that effect. Instead, he rather cryptically replied, "We shouldn't talk about this."
It really bothers me that Byron didn't say something more forceful to Kelley if he was in fact innocent, regardless if he was suffering from a high fever from strep throat. I know that even if I was on my death bed, I could muster up the strength to forcefully deny an accusation of murder from someone. That he didn't do that is very troubling.
And when Kelly asked Byron what she should tell the police, who were questioning her about the murder, Byron said to her, "I mean the only advice that I can give is start everything with 'I think,' or 'the best I can remember is' . . . there."
If the story of what happened to Anastasia occurred the way that Byron has always said it did, then why didn't Bryon simply tell Kelley to just tell the police the truth?
I'm sorry, but it really appears to even the casual observer that something is not quite right with that whole picture. "We shouldn't talk about this" sounds like a person who may have been smart enough to know that the conversation was possibly being recorded.
Byron needs a new trial. Being convicted solely on the testimony of a drunken crack head is just plain wrong, and scary, too.
We should all be scared to death if that is what it takes to send someone to prison for the rest of their life.
You should know all about Karma, Aaron. Just ask your "wife" and "A Friend" about it. Trash talking while hiding behind sockpuppets and stalking people you've never met is the way to prove your friend's "innocence", right? You've been hiding behind aliases for the last three months, and have yet to honor your promise in your last signed post to explain your reasoning for your email last year trying to incite harassment against others. We're still waiting for that, and you've had all that time as well to come up with an alibi for the tacit admission that got Case convicted.
But instead of playing games with you, I'm just going to give you something from our FAQ.
What were the details of Byron Case's alibi?
Byron Case and his supporters have long maintained that he was always consistent with his alibi of the night of the murder. This is not entirely true, as there were significant variations between what he on some important details.
The Basic Story
The basics of Case's alibi are that he, Justin Bruton, and Kelly Moffett picked up Anastasia at the Dairy Queen at Highway 24 and Brookside in Independence, Missouri, a little before 7 PM on October 22, 1997, much later than had been planned. There are differences and inconsistencies in events and intentions before that, but this discussion is about the alibi regarding what Case claimed transpired between then and her alleged exit from Justin's car.
According to Case's most basic alibi, they picked Anastasia up at the Dairy Queen, drove into Mt. Washington Cemetery, stopped briefly at the William Rockhill Nelson Mausoleum, then left the cemetery when spotted by the caretaker; they exited the cemetery, drove south along its eastern wall, and turned west on Truman Road. At the stoplight near Truman and I-435, Anastasia became angry with Justin, got out of the car, announced she was walking home, and proceeded to walk east on Truman Road. Bruton, Case, and Moffett then drove back to Justin's condo, while Anastasia's actions remain a mystery.
Inconsistencies
In Case's first statement to police on October 24, 1997, he mentioned that after picking up Anastasia, they decided to "follow through with the original plan" and return to the original meeting spot, which was the Nelson Mausoleum in Mt. Washington Cemetery; when he told Anastasia's family about the same event via email, he described it as if they had been "looking for a place to park the car". In his second police interview on July 29, 1999, he described the drive to the Nelson as if they simply drove around and decided at the spur of the moment to stop there.
In Case's first interview with police on October 24, 1997, he told police that Anastasia got out of Justin Bruton's car at the traffic light at Truman Road and I-435 after announcing she was going to do so, that she and Justin argued about her leaving, that she slammed his door closed and walked off, and that neither he nor Justin nor Kelly Moffett considered it unusual, as she had walked out of Justin's condo during arguments many times before. When he described this to Anastasia's family two months later, he changed his story to say that "none of us expected her to get out of the car". Less than a week after that, he added the detail of Justin telling Anastasia he didn't really love her being the remark that set her off. In his second interview with police, 21 months after the murder, he added details of Anastasia's and Justin's conversation that he didn't seem to remember two days after the event. In his testimony at trial, he left out the detail of Justin and Anastasia arguing briefly once she got out of the car.
Also of interest is the testimony of John Bruton, Justin Bruton's step-father. Mr. Bruton testified that Case told him that the drive had been the result of a "double date", and that Anastasia had exited the car at a stop sign. While Bruton's testimony can be regarded as second-hand, it is significant that a friend of Case's, Allie Conrad, came forward to the family in late 1998 to tell them that Case had talked to her the day after the murder and told her that Anastasia had exited Justin's car at the stop sign at Blue Ridge and Truman Road, near the entrance of Lincoln Cemetery, not a dissimilar story to the one Case had told Bruton. Allie's place in this murder investigation is told elsewhere.
Problems with Veracity
One of the key components of Case's alibi was that Anastasia's alleged behavior (angrily storming away from Justin's car and attempting to walk home along a dangerous part of town) was "not unusual behavior," trying to equate it to times Anastasia had walked out of Justin's condo in the Plaza and walked around the block a few times to cool off. Anastasia's family considered this description to have been extremely inconsistent with her normal behavior from the very start, and Case once tried to justify his claim by telling the family via email that "Justin and Stasia argued a lot, but never as fiercely as they did that night". A major part of his alibi required that Anastasia be so upset as to take actions categorically at odds with her personality and previous behavior. Case only attempted to redefine such actions as being "normal" for Anastasia.
Case's alibi also required by its nature that Anastasia was murdered at Lincoln Cemetery by a complete stranger, a scenario of which has already been disposed. Forensic evidence made it clear that Anastasia had not been abducted, that she had not struggled with an assailant, and had not even tried to shield herself from the fatal shot; along with other clues, and the extreme unlikeliness of an assailant lying in wait at that time and place, made the scenario difficult if not impossible to believe.
The jury did not find Byron Case's alibi believable.
Go to http://www.stasia.org/case_aga... to see all references.
Dude how long has it been since my last post? Seriously? Wow! You are truly a work of art. I started a post and have since put it on the back burner from months ago. I will put it all together over the next couple of weeks. Please feel free to rant daily until then! :0 By the way how is Robert WitbolsFeugen's police charges coming along? Isn't he due back at court on FRIDAY, OCTOBER 17, 2008 at Location:DIVISION 28 Jackson - Independence 9:00am. Tell him I send my blessing. Karma follows us all, no mater who we are, or how powerful and exalted we have become. :)
AV out!
Oh, boy, you're REALLY being a funny, creative troll, aren't you, Aaron, posting fraudulent messages under someone else's name? Well, no, you're not. You're still just dropping your pants and playing with yourself in front of anyone you can find nearby. Maybe it comes from living behind a cemetery.
Everyone knows that it is you, Aaron. As you continue to lie about it, you STILL know you're a liar. You can't come back with your own name, because you'd have to admit your cowardice of hiding behind sockpuppets all this time. God, what a wanker. I just don't know for sure whether it's because you are just a coward, or because you're a pathological liar.
And you still can't answer the questions. You left the question about Case's tacit admission of murder with the reply that it "isn't something I'm prepared to defend at this point". Well, when will you be able to respond?
The responses you DID make to other questions were pretty much non-answers that avoided the issue or attempted misdirection. Two questions: 1. Were you on Sarah Palin's debate prep team? 2. Are you ever going to attempt to make a real answer to them, or can we all assume that you've acknowledged Case's guilt by your failure to respond?
And exactly how are you "proving" Byron Case's "innocence" with trolling behavior? How does this inability to admit the truth of your own behavior give you the least credibility if you were to actually make an argument?
Now, just to state the bloody obvious here, the "Frank K. Jung" posts on 9/26 after 10 PM were made by the same worthless piece of crud who has posted here under the monikers "A Friend", "Not Your Friend", �Anonymous� (at least since June), "Frank�s Mom", "FYI,FKJ", "Uncle David", "Nicole", "John Smith", "Hehe", "Beasley", "Dear Idiot", "Mrs. Vermeulen", and of course, "Aaron Vermeulen". Most of those rants were posted from Aaron's parents' attic on Berry, where he has lived his entire adult life and has obsessively stalked people for the last six years.
I've said this before, Aaron, the first time I responded to you: Get a life. Your current one sucks.
Byron Case is guilty, and will remain in prison for the rest of his and your lives, and I wish him a long, long life. How's THAT feel, Aaron?
Frank asked: "So tell us, "A Friend", just how did you manage to stumble onto this? What were you searching for to land here?"
I was searching for your mailing address. I wanted to send you the phone number for a good therapist who can help you deal with your hate issues.
I was also searching for a way to understand why people like you are so filled with hate. I'd ask you, but all you would do is accuse me of being some guy named Aaron, the second greatest object of your hate outside of Byron Case.
Who else is on your hate list?
For the record, I just want everyone to know that I really don't think that Byron Case is guilty and that I now believe that he should be released from prison.
Also, I would like to publically apologize to anyone who has read my words on here whom I may have offended. Thank you.
For the record, I just want everyone to know that I really don't think that Byron Case is guilty and that I now believe that he should be released from prison.
Also, I would like to publically apologize to anyone who has read my words on here whom I may have offended. Thank you.
Someone at my office noticed this while I was posting at lunch and mentioned this. I'd missed it:
"I am just a guy who stumbled onto this page"
God, sometimes I hate it when I'm right. Yep, Aaron is back, and all he could do was play with himself in front of us all. He has nothing substantive to offer.
This is the best you can do?
"A Friend" proved he was Aaron when, after claiming not to be a supporter of Byron Case, he started (badly) defending Case in one of his "replies" (9/15), and made the confimation absolute by taking a shot at Robert WitbolsFeugen, something that is 100% Aaron and nothing but Aaron. It helps the identification that "A Friend" throws exactly the same kind of temper tantrum that Aaron does in his named posts. All that plus the fact that "A Friend" has frequently posted here from the same IP address that "Aaron Vermeulen" uses. God, you're stupid, Aaron. Don't you think some of these things can be traced?
You're doing this because you can't come back as Aaron. "Aaron" dropped out rather unceremoniously back in July after having been stuck for an answer about his attempts at internet harassment. You'd think that being outed for lies about your personal life would be enough, but it took having to own up to possibly felonious acts that scared off his only true ID. But you just can't stay away, can you Aaron?
Bottom line is that Byron Case really did murder Anastasia WitbolsFeugen and is rightfully doing a life sentence in a max security prison for his crime.
Bottom line is that he will be there FOR THE REST OF HIS MISERABLE LIFE.
Bottom line is that the evidence supports his conviction.
Bottom line is that Aaron is a pathetic wanker who has no real life, and that his attempts at using sockpuppets and not get caught has degenerated into an ugly clusterfuck.
Bottom line is that Aaron CANNOT make a legitimate, rational, and believable answer ANY of the questions I've posted.
Update for ya, Aaron, since you're so obsessed with Robert WitbolsFeugen: I heard from one of his daughters this week, and learned Jackson County has decided to postpone his "trial" till after the election, and word is that they will not pick it up any time soon, having such a weak-ass case against him. Sorry to disappoint you. Wait, no, I'm actually laughing at your disappointment.
Get help soon, Aaron, before you hurt someone.
You know, I miss arguing with Jamie. His arguments were only marginally better than yours (I'd hope he's still a bit embarrassed about his "depth of character" remark), but he at least didn't start his arguments from some fantasy world. He just believed that "prosecutors are trained to be sociopaths" and that a public defender draws "his paycheck from the same source as the prosecutor does" (an attitude and belief that are drawn from his own past), but he had less of the stink of True Believer than you do.
I note that, possibly in response to my statements here, the FBC website has now announced that the MySpace circle jerk has been closed by its administrator, so as to work on "other promotional endeavors". Nice save effort, Sylvia. If you really want to get anywhere, you should remove all the taint that the association with Aaron still leaves on the site. But of course, there wouldn't be much left afterward.
Frank, can you also set your search engine to notify you every time that I scratch my balls? Seriously, you don't think that you are angry and obsessed? You should see yourself the way outsiders see you. And you have ZERO proof that I am this Aaron character outside of your own narrow-minded insistance that I am.
I am not Aaron and I do not support either side of this argument. I am just a guy who stumbled onto this page, started reading, and was amazed by how angry this Frank character is! I mean seriously, it is just simply incredible.
Niether side of this argument does anything to further their cause, I can tell you that!
And "Frank" is the worst of the lot.
I'm just going to have to set the search engine to check weekly. Aaron just can't leave it alone. And he just thinks it so clever when he uses sockpuppets and denies that it's him. Aaron, don't you think you should be at least posting from a different IP address, where it's less simple to trace you? Yes, I have that capacity, and have been able to identify you for some time now.
Write all you want this weekend, Aaron. We know you won't use your real name, and that no one else is posting, and we know you can't actually write anything of substance, that all you can do is shout "Nyah nyah" and "Sez you". You will not defend Case's innocence anymore because you cannot, and bullshit is the only weapon you have left. Sling away.
Aaron, I will now assume that the fact that you made one feeble effort to answer my questions and have gone back to attacking me anonymously means that you have no answer for any of the questions and that you have conceded the points.
Byron Case made a tacit admission of murder, and you have made a tacit admission that you can't really answer the questions, and can no longer defend him.
So the facts as tacitly agreed upon so far:
1 & 2. Case knew from the start that he was a suspect. He prepared himself for his interview with police, and steadfastly refused to talk to them again face to face until they offered him limited immunity, a condition that he later misinterpreted as his "get out of jail free" card, thinking it was a blanket immunity for any statement he made. He rehearsed Kelly Moffett for each interview she did, but stayed away from them himself. The reason he avoided talking to police was that he was afraid of being tripped up if he had to answer the questions too many times.
3. Byron Case resisted arrest because he knew the jig was up when he saw the police and he panicked. He had lied for so long about his having murdered Anastasia that he had lost the ability to admit to it.
4. When directly accused of murder by someone who was with him on the night of the murder, Case clammed up and then simply tried to change the subject. He already had been talking about the fact police wanted to talk to Kelly Moffett, and after changing the subject away from his own guilt, he started advising her how to avoid telling the truth to police. There is only one conclusion to explain his behavior, the same conclusion the jury came to: he murdered Anastasia WitbolsFeugen in cold blood, after cool reflection.
5. Anastasia and Case had been friends at several points of their acquaintance, but by summer/autumn of 1997, they disliked each other strongly. Anastasia resented Case stirring up problems between her and Justin, and Case resented the demands she made on Justin's time. Case had put out an insult on his pager announcement to her, one that actually offended some mutual friends, and two nights before the murder, Anastasia had left word with Justin that "Byron can go fuck himself". A witness from the night of the murder, Dawn Wright, testified that she had seen Anastasia angrily arguing with Case ("the guy in the long black trench coat"). They were NOT friends at the time he killed her.
6 & 7. Evelyn Case testified (page 877) that her son had complained frequently how little he saw of Justin because of his relationship with Anastasia (this while testifying on his behalf), and Case could not deny that he had made such complaints. As already shown in Anastasia's letter to Justin, Case had interfered in their relationship.
8. Aaron is an asshole who has consistently hidden behind the internet to make libelous accusations, and has on a number of occasions threatened to "dig up dirt" on a variety of persons. He has stalked Kelly Moffett practically ever since Case was convicted, but has never found anything except that she has been pretty messed up ever since that day she witnessed Anastasia's murder. Aaron probably can't pronounce "Schadenfreude", much less define it, but it's one of his defining characteristics. He's a bully, and like all bullies is a base coward and only attacks when he can duck behind his sockpuppet identity. He has few if any friends, and is fiercely loyal to Byron Case because Case has made him believe that they're true friends. Case has little respect for Aaron's intellect; he was a good person to hang out and do drugs with, and has blind loyalty befitting a fanatic from any cult, and Case used Aaron as part of his manufactured alibi, and Aaron can't admit that now, not even to himself.
Aaron sent out his now-infamous email to others on the FBC site because he thought it would be "fun" if he could get anyone to make crank calls or commit vandalism or any kind of harassment. He never expected it would be passed to one of the objects of his hatred and obsession. If he thought that it might come back to bite him, he would have chickened out.
He has done everything he can to avoid talking about it, even after having promised to respond back in July. He never will respond, because he's too cowardly to admit to criminal actions, he can't rationalize it as any sort of innocent prank, and he's too cowardly to simply 'fess up and apologize. He still hides behind sockpuppets because he can't resurface as himself without explaining why he's afraid to answer for his assholiness.
9. Yes, Aaron and Byron Case used to think it fun to ingest cocaine and then play video games with each other. We have that on good authority, Aaron: we have it in your own words to a friend to whom you had no reason to exaggerate.
10. When Evelyn Case claimed her son's first felony conviction was reduced to a misdemeanor, she was apparently going on his telling. When she testified that Kelly Moffett had told Case that her father was a violent alchoholic, it was Case himself who made the story up for her consumption. Byron Case told lies to his mother to suit his needs, and she bought every single one of them. She helped enable his lifestyle, including being able to kill another human being.
11. The MySpace "community" is now defunct for at least the third time since this article was originally posted. I had nothing directly to do with that, but a communication from one of Anastasia's sisters informs me that MySpace was itself starting to crack down on such sites, and this one had been noted. I have no idea whether Aaron's earlier legally questionable actions had any influence, but it could not have helped.
12. The FBC website has a number of demonstrable lies on it, only one of which is the "third party witness" bullshit. They're even lying about what they do with the money.
Everybody knows who you are, Aaron. Everybody knows WHAT you are. If I had even the least bit of respect for you, perhaps I'd hate you, but no, you are the one filled with hate; you are the one hiding behind aliases and avoiding directly addressing the issues. How does that feel?
You'll be back, because just like any other exhibitionist, you'll want to jump out from behind the bushes and expose yourself. I just wish you were a bit more creative.
Not a Friend: Frank has a life. It involves posting her daily about how much he hates certain people. So there, chew on that!
I have a life, Aaron. As I mentioned before, I work for a private criminalistics lab. You're the one living with your parents at 30 and creating an imaginary wife and children.
And still, you can't offer legitimate or rational answers to the questions about Case's alleged innocence.
You know, the saddest thing about you, Aaron, is that you are and always have been Case's clueless dupe. He planned to be at your house when his friend Abraham would page him, so he could show you his best stricken, shocked look when he revealed to you that his "friend" had just been found dead. He drove over to your house that day IN THE CAR YOU KEEP CLAIMING WAS IN THE SHOP. He spent the night at his father's house, a 5-minute drive from your house, so he could get there in time for his buddy to page him.
He had Kelly tell her mother the "Anastasia got out of the car and walked home" alibi the night before, just as he fed it to his mother later the same night. He's said over and over again that "no one considered her behavior unusual", yet they both managed to make special note of it to their mothers. And he made sure someone credulous was there to witness his "shock" when he "first" heard the "news".
God, Aaron, you should have been a Bush supporter. You have such a capacity for belief that flies in the face of the facts.
BTW, there ARE now some viewers of this site. I clued some of my co-workers in on this, and they think you'd be hilarious if you weren't serious about yourself. One of them thought you'd fit the profile of a Manson Family member, with your single-minded, almost religious faith in your guy.
Again, now, WHY did you send that email with the personal contact info? Was it to plan birthday parties for its subjects? Was it to include them in your circle? Were you just doing a lot of coke that night, and forgot yourself? Or did you have criminal intent to incite harassment?
And now that the FBC Circle Jerk has expired, to any of its members still communicate with you, knowing that YOUR behavior helped shut it down?
Karma really is a bitch, and it's already taken a bite out of you, Aaron.
Poor, pathetic, cowardly Aaron Vermeulen is at it again, avoiding the issues and going on attack just to change the subject. As it is and always shall be.
Aaron, the guy who tried to incite harassment against a person who was an eyewitness in the trial of one of his favorite buddies, thinks HE has reason to be "afraid" of me.
Let me ask you this, Aaron. Do you think I would want someone as obsessed and as angry as YOU to know where I live?
QUESTION 11: What happened to your MySpace "community"? You know, the one to whose members you sent that "Surprise" email with the incitement to harass?
QUESTION 12: The FBC site STILL has the false statement about "a third party witness whose statement the day after the murder took place vouched for Byron Case's innocence" when we already know that Don Rand (the "third party" in question) testified that the car he saw was eastbound (heading toward Anastasia's home) when Case claimed that they were all heading the opposite direction. We also know that Don Rand at first testified on direct that the woman had been arguing and looked upset, but on cross-examination had to admit that he had not seen anything of the sort, that he had already told police that he could not tell whether or not the woman was upset, and that he hadn't seen her in any sort of argument. The question: Why does the FBC web site still put out this direct lie? It's almost like Sarah Palin and the Bridge to Nowhere. Why to you still continue to lie?
Byron Case lost his last appeal, and has none currently working, yet that information has never been posted on the FBC web site. Why not? Why can they not admit how poorly he's done with his appeals, and admit that all donations are currently going toward buying cigarettes?
You say I'm full of hate, but hatred has been your hallmark, hatred of Kelly Moffett and of several members of the victim's family, even hatred for the victim. You use the word "obsessed" a lot to describe everyone with whom you disagree, but what does it say about you when, SIX YEARS after your friend's conviction, you try to harass his victim's godfather? What does it say when YOU were the one thrown out of Byron Case's trial for trying to intimidate a witness on the stand?
It says that you are one sick fuck, Aaron. No one would even know your name except for the obsessive way you attack any who disagree with you. Get help. Get it now. Don't rely on your "wife" for help, because "she" is in your imagination.
Frank Jung, you say "A Friend" should have no fear of putting his name on his posts, as you have."
I think that the fact that you are extremely angry is quite obvious to anyone who reads your daily rantings and ravings on here. (I can imagine spittle flying off your lips if you were speaking).
So that you would think it odd that someone would not want to post using their real name is completely laughable!
I mean, come on, would you want someone as angry and obsessed as you are to know who you are and where you live? No thanks. I'm not ready to give some obsessed mad man any excuse to come after me.
And you scare me, dude. Get help before you end up in prison for something violent that you do.
Here's a followup on my statements and questions from yesterday:
First, we all know it's you, Aaron, behind the "A Friend" and even the "Anonymous" posts of the last week. You tried to pretend that you were just someone who was reading the posts from a neutral standpoint, going so far as to say you didn't support Byron Case. But all through it, you were a partisan in his cause, and when you took a dig at Robert WitbolsFeugen, you left absolutely no doubt as to your identity.
Be honest for a change, Aaron. You've been lying about so many things throughout this, and you're not particularly good at it; you keep getting caught in your lies, and you look worse each time. Jamie has been the only poster here other than you and me for the last couple of months, and you're the only one hiding behind an alias. Just stop it. I won't respect you less for 'fessing up. I really can't respect you much less than I already do.
As for the questions and current responses:
(1) You are attempting to redefine "suspect" as a legal concept by asserting that police would have to arrest him if he were a suspect; this is not true. Police usually make arrests only when they believe they've gathered enough evidence to bring it to trial. As long as both Byron Case and Kelly Moffett stuck to the same story, police had little to go on other than the flimsiness of their alibi.
You know the alibi, the one that required Anastasia to have been inexplicably lost, to have obliviously wandered the wrong direction uphill on an unmarked cemetery road, and to have found just at that time a waiting killer, a killer who did not want to rob or sexually assault his victim, and even didn't want to let his victim know he was there. Forensic evidence showed no sign of struggle, and even showed that Anastasia had been surprised by her killer, that she hadn't even bothered to look around or behind her until the last second of her life. You've obviously never walked through a cemetery at dark if you believe all that was possible.
Assuming for sake of argument that Case's alibi was actually true, then his attitude of non-cooperation with police, given that he was one of the last people seen with Anastasia, comes off as someone who didn't give a shit about his so-called "close friend".
Please don't play semantics with the issue. There is no doubt that he fled from officers and tried to lock his bedroom door in one desperate attempt to elude arrest. The question is "Why did he do it". Your response (ignoring the claim that he really didn't resist) is that he "was frightened". Granted that he was probably scared shitless by what was happening, but if he were innocent, turning and running would be the absolute last thing he would want to do, as that exact action has gotten more than one suspect shot. It had only been a couple of days since he'd refused to answer Kelly Moffett's question, "Why did you have to kill her?", and he ran because he knew exactly why they were there: to arrest him for the murder of Anastasia WitbolsFeugen.
The jury never got to see how arrogantly Case behaved toward Anastasia's family, making bogus threats of lawsuits, harassing one of Anastasia's best friends because she had told police about an overheard conversation in 1997 that implicated Case in the murder (just ask Tara McDowell about that one). They didn't need to see that; they got nearly the full flavor of Byron Case from that conversation.
And again, as for your claim of Anastasia's email, you'd have to produce that email with all headers visible to prove that it came from her. Even assuming it to be real, you seem to believe that everything written was absolutely honest, and that a person as vain as Byron Case would not respond to empty flattery. Of course he would do so, and Anastasia was actually brighter than case was. Please produce that email with its headers, as well as Case's reply (also with headers) to show that this was an exchange between true friends.
I'm not holding my breath.
"A Wanker" has stated that he is not Aaron Vermeulen, but he still uses the same tactics, calling me "full of hate" and telling me to "let it go", without making any effort to tell anyone else the same, and doing so behind an alias. If this were truly a disinterested third party, he'd have no fear of putting his name on his posts, as I have. Instead, he uses a sockpuppet, and his first post was an attack. What were the odds?
People on my side, who have taken little or no part in this discussion, have been attacked and libeled as pedophiles and killers; I've just reported the true facts about two of the main attackers. Since "A Wanker" has now decided to answer my questions, it is painfully obvious who he was all along. Nice try, Aaron. Actually that's not true; pathetic try, Aaron.
(1) Why has Byron Case consistently tried to hide the fact that he knew all along that he was a suspect?
The "reply":
You can't be a suspect without any evidence against you. If the police believed Byron Case was a suspect, why couldn't they have made an arrest before Kelly Moffett came forward?
He had already told them everything he knew by 1998.
Had he actually resisted arrested, he would have been charged with that as well.
He closed his bedroom door because he was frightened.
Robert WitbolsFeugen might know something about resisting arrest, though.
The telephone recording isn't something I am prepared to defend at this point.
I'll answer your question with a question: If they weren't good friends, why did Anastasia send an email to Byron a month prior to her murder pleading with him for advice, saying he was the only person she could talk to?
Provide documentation of this.
Because Anastasia was obsessed with Justin Bruton and paged Byron Case often attempting to track Justin down. That would irritate just about anyone.
8) You already know the answer to that one.
1) You can't be a suspect without any evidence against you. If the police believed Byron Case was a suspect, why couldn't they have made an arrest before Kelly Moffett came forward?
2) He had already told them everything he knew by 1998.
3) Had he actually resisted arrested, he would have been charged with that as well. He closed his bedroom door because he was frightened. Robert WitbolsFeugen might know something about resisting arrest, though.
4) The telephone recording isn't something I am prepared to defend at this point.
5) I'll answer your question with a question: If they weren't good friends, why did Anastasia send an email to Byron a month prior to her murder pleading with him for advice, saying he was the only person she could talk to?
6) Provide documentation of this.
7) Because Anastasia was obsessed with Justin Bruton and paged Byron Case often attempting to track Justin down. That would irritate just about anyone.
8) You already know the answer to that one.
I am not Aaron Vermeulen. I am just a reader of this blog who is interested in both sides of the story. So far, neither side has convinced me of anything outside of the fact that BOTH sides hate each other. Since you are the most vocal on here, I singled you out for being the most obvious hater.
And again, they cannot answer any questions, they dodge the issues, all they do is attack the questioner.
"A Friend" is Aaron Vermeulen, again hiding behind anonymous sockpuppets and pretending to be multiple individuals. In politics, it's called a "concern troll". He is accusing me of making "personal attacks" against "people on this message board", which is to say he can dish it out but can't take it.
The Hate was started by the FBC group. The FBC group is the one whose attacks against members of the victim's family were baseless and slanderous. The FBC group engaged in deliberate acts of stalking and attempts at harassment. The FBC group has made their attacks anonymous, claiming a fear of the very kinds of attacks in which they've engaged. They've shown themselves to be universally cowardly, and when truthful responses were made against them they retreated and now are begging me to stop, while accusing me of having all their own evil motives.
Karma really is a bitch, isn't it Aaron? It's come back to bite you squarely in the ass.
I still have eight questions out there. No one wants to answer them, but only to attack me. What does that say for them? It says they know that they are wrong and that the only thing they can do to mask it is to attack me and run from the issues. Yeah, Karl Rove MUST be a Byron Case supporter.
Frank Jung, I don't support Byron Case. But I do think that you do your cause a severe and major disservice by posting such personal attacks against people on this message board. You come off as exactly what I suspect you are: a man who is simply full of hate and using this as an outlet for that hate. Let go, dude or in the alternative, at least shut the fuck up for awhile.
From here on out, you are not "A Friend" or "Anonymous", but "A Coward" or "A Total Wanker". You who play this high-school game of ring and run, anonymously hiding behind your sockpuppets, are all cowards. I will not answer any of you directly, but I will continue to respond to your obsessions. You never actually defend your beliefs here, you just try to change the subject. As long as you are still here, I'll come back.
As far as your "advice" to "stop hating and let it go", you should direct that advice at Aaron Vermeullen and Evelyn Case. Evelyn still stalks the father of her son's victim, and Aaron tries to incite harassment against members of the victim's family.
Here are some questions for you:
If Byron Case had been such a totally innocent man:
(1) Why has he consistently tried to hide the fact that he knew all along that he was a suspect?
(2) Why did he refuse to come in to speak to police when asked in 1998, telling them that he had "more important things to do"?
(3) Why did he resist arrest? And why does his web site lie about his arrest?
(4) Why, when directly asked why he killed Anastasia, did Case change the subject instead of responding with a denial? Why, after changing the subject, did he continue to advise Kelly Moffett to deal with police by saying "I don't remember"?
If Byron Case was such a good friend to Anastasia:
(5) Why would Anastasia, two nights before her murder, send a letter to Justin Bruton with the specific phrase that "Byron can go fuck himself"?
(6) Why did Byron Case complain that, because of Anastasia, he was able to spend less time with Justin?
(7) Why did Case, only weeks before the murder, leave such a vicious message on his pager, a message that even one of his defense witnesses admitted was out of line?
Here are seven questions. My guess is that you won't come up with a reasonable, rational, or believable answer to a single one. The pattern so far has been to avoid the question entirely by attacking the questioner, by changing the subject, or by otherwise parsing words and playing games with the answer. Is Karl Rove writing your material?
I put these up here to document for all the fact that it is the Byron Case side who has been so obsessive and full of hate all along, and that it is the Byron Case side that cannot answer direct questions honestly or rationally.
Here's a bonus eighth question:
(8) Why did Aaron Vermeulen send out an unsolicited email to members of the FBC group with personal contact information on Kelly Moffett and Patrick Rock, other than for the sole purpose of attempting to instigate harassment against them and/or their families? Aaron promised to answer that one almost two months ago, but has so far avoided it. The act itself, attacking a member of the victim's family, seems itself to be an act of obsession.
You are all cowards. Obsessive, immature, hateful cowards at that. I don't hate you, I just don't respect you.
I agree. All Frank Jung does is come on here and tell people who don't agree with him to fuck off. Some spokesperson for the memory of a murder victim! He reminds me of John Mark Byers (the stepfather of victim Christopher Byers in the West Memphis Three case).
Frank K. Jung, so full of hate, so unable to find some useful outlet for his anger. Hate is a terrible thing and will ultimately consume you. Stop hating and learn to let go.
First, please understand that you are no "friend" of mine, and that I seek no peace or solace from any of you. As I said in my last post (and as you apparently failed to understand then), I'm not trying to convince any of you; I'm posting rebuttals so that any person who stumbles on this site and sees all the lies written in the name of B. Case can see the other side as well. You don't like me here because you don't like to see any evidence that refutes your claims.
When you have lost a loved one to a violent crime, then and ONLY then are you qualified to give such advice as you so condescendingly offer to me.
Hey, let's try this:
Byron Case is in prison for life without any chance of parole. He will never get out. He will die behind those walls. Get over it. Take a deep breath and let it go. There is more to life than obsessing on some jailbird who's been there for seven years now and will be till he dies. There's more to life than spewing hatred towards the family of his victim and towards the witness who turned in the killer. Just let it go.
Now, read that last paragraph again a few times. Didn't that feel condescending to you? It's exactly how anything you say comes out to me. You want to argue that Case is alive and Anastasia is not? He killed her, so yes we still have a bit of a grudge about that. You want to argue that Case is innocent? No he is not. He has not proven that to any appeals court, and your "evidence" has not moved that debate any further.
I hate to have to repeat this point again, but apparently you all are slow learners.
I came on to this blog because I was sick and tired of Aaron Vermeulen sending out his threats that he was going to produce some "real dirt" on people, accusing Anastasia's family of things he could not prove, and laughing like a nasty little boy. When he sent out an email to his friends on FBC with Patrick Rock's and Kelly Moffett's personal contact info with an implied invitation to all to harass them, I've called him on that a number of times and he has never yet had the guts to explain it, or even apologize for it. In his last post here, he said he'd explain his letter, but that was in mid-July. He's been in hiding since.
We are fully aware that the anonymous attacks against Patrick and against Anastasia's father are "courtesy" of Evelyn Case, who continues to stalk Robert WitbolsFeugen to this day. Several months ago, she called Robert's house to ask his wife if they were divorcing. She was apparently disappointed at the negative reply, but it didn't stop her from ranting for over 20 minutes about her darling boy. They recorded part of the conversation and reported it to the Victim's Liaison with the Jackson County Prosecutor's Office. She tried to call the police anonymously and accuse Patrick of molestation. We all know it was you, Evelyn, and you're more likely a molester than Patrick. You let your son be molested and never dealt with it.
I don't monitor this blog, but my search engine keeps pulling it up whenever someone posts some new, obsessive comment. The search engine just reports when any site containing Anastasia's name gets updated, and there are over 200 comments on this blog, the vast majority of them vicious attacks from you people.
I do not obsess about Anastasia. I help Patrick maintain her memorial in order to keep alive the memory of a good person who died long before her time. What's your excuse? You believe Case is innocent? Then prove it, dammit. Show me proof consistent with the facts already known. Show me that Justin Bruton killed Anastasia in a scenario that matches evidence. Aaron claims Robert WitbolsFeugen did it, but cannot present a scenario in which he COULD have done so.
Case has already been convicted and has lost two (actually three) appeals, and his web site has never bothered to tell you that bad news (hard to raise funds when there's no appeal; guess he's just using the money for cigarettes and pay per view now). This case is past the time of trying to reintroduce old issues that were taken care and disposed of in pre-trial, trial, or appeal. If you have nothing new, then you have nothing at all.
And so, "A Friend", I don't hate anyone on here, I just don't respect anyone here. I disrespect Aaron because he's spread so many lies and exaggerations, and seems to enjoy the masturbatory schadenfreude he gets from attacking others in his obscene game of ring and run. I disrespect Evelyn Case because of all her anonymous spamming of our memorial site's guest book, the fact that she cannot admit the shitty job she did creating that monster. I have no respect for the rest of you because you're all so willing to accept and believe Case's lies, so much that you completely ignore any evidence that disagrees with those lies.
If you'd like me to "let go", here's the way: take your whiny complaints about what a raw deal Byron Case got onto your Facebook site, or just put new posts in the FBC guestbook, or JUST TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE PRIVATE. If you want to make public comments on a space like this, where everyone has the opportunity to reply, I promise I will reply. Otherwise, fuck off.
Frank K. Jung, please try to get over it already. Go out someplace. Have a drink. Have sex. Read a book. Join a social group. Do something, anything outside of obsessing over a girl who has been dead for years and the man who is now in prison for life for her murder.
Everything is as you want it now. Just take a deep breath. Let go. There is more to life than just going on and on about something that you have no control over anymore. The people that you hate on here are not going to give you the sort of peace that you are seeking, that is for sure. All you are doing is feeding your own hate and theirs. Can't you see that you are not going to change anyone's mind or that neither are they going to change yours?
Let go.
Jamie, I thought I'd give it a day to see if you or anyone else from FBC wanted to distance yourself from "Uncle" here, but it's apparent that you do not or cannot. I'm guessing this clown thought it would be hilarious to turn your regular "ring and run" game into something even more juvenile, insulting the memory of a murder victim and anyone associated with her. He/she must have expected to enrage me, but has failed in that attempt. "uncle" only serves to confirm what I've said all along about the majority of this group: they are pathetic.
The fact that no one on your side has ever repudiated such actions just paints you with the same brush that "uncle" uses. It's infantile, and it does nothing to help the object of your concern.
I will not try to match "uncle"'s attempts at bad poetry, but instead inject a taste of reality: Byron Case has already failed in his first two appeals, and they were his big guns. He might be able to concoct another one or two appeals, but they will be increasingly desperate and will be proportionately bigger failures. Byron Case will spend the rest of his life in prison, and he will die within those walls. If any of you believed differently, you wouldn't waste your time on activities like "uncle" has. The fact that any of you resort to such childish behavior shows how hopeless your cause is.
And he deserves to be there. You keep harping on what they didn't produce at his trial, but won't own up to what they DID produce: in effect, he confessed to the murder in his conversation with Kelly Moffett by his specific refusal to talk about it.
Jamie, while I disagree with your perspective, I respect your right to have it. However, if you cast your lot with creeps like "Uncle" here (and you are known by the company you keep), then I have no respect for you at all.
There once was a girl named Stasia
Whose face got blown off with gun
Her creepy cousin went nuts
And now to get his rocks off
He uses the Plog as a soapbox
"Nicole", if you're going to be a sockpuppet for Aaron, at least you could try to sound different than him. Instead of addressing the issues, you simply attack those who disagree with your view of reality. Are you all sure you're not the Bush Administration?
The Don Rand "third party" is an example of cherry picking, as it's obvious from both his statements to police and his cross-examination that he did not see anyone arguing or looking upset, and it's also obvious that he saw an eastbound vehicle on the south side of the road and not a westbound one on the north side. By carefully avoiding that, and going only with his discredited direct testimony (the stuff that he had to admit on cross was false), you cherry-picked that information.
By ignoring Byron Case's tacit admission, you cling to the claim that Kelly Moffett's testimony was the only thing used to convict Case. That is cherry-picking.
You keep claiming that Kelly Moffett was an "embittered ex-girlfriend" who would put herself through the hell of testifying in a murder trial just as "revenge" for Case breaking up with her, yet ignore the fact that Moffett broke up with Case (not the other way around), and that it was nearly two years before she talked to prosecutors. By carefully misstating the facts, you make it sound like it all happened in a period of weeks. Cherry picking.
By ignoring Byron Case's August 1998 phone conversation with the detective, the one in which he refused to come in for an interview and said he "had better things to do", you claim that Case had no idea he was a suspect and that he cooperated with police.
Even though you already knew the facts of Robert WitbolsFeugen's life insurance policies (took them out on his entire family, and only when a salesman called), you still present it like important evidence. The only evidence it presents is to show just how far you will go to misinterpret facts to your own advantage. Cherry picking.
By putting on the FBC website an absolutely false statement about Case's arrest, you make it sound like he was "disappeared" by the Secret Police, that he was "dragged from his bed" and that his pleas of "why?" were met with silence. The fact was (according to official reports that he did not challenge in court) that Police came to his house wearing uniforms that could not be mistaken. Case saw them, turned, ran, and tried to barricade himself in his bedroom. He was subdued, handcuffed, informed that he was under arrest for the murder of Anastasia WitbolsFeugen, and read his rights. Your story is not even cherry picking, it's just making shit up.
And "Nicole", just in case you're not Aaron and are just another pathetic sycophant of Case's, my advice is to look in a mirror before you throw stones. I don't expect you to "beleive" my "story", as (A) mine is not the "story" here; I'm just rebutting the falsehoods put out by Aaron and the FBC circle jerk, and (B) you are nothing but a True Believer, and you will believe black is white no matter what proof otherwise is shown you. I wouldn't try to make you believe anything else any more than I'd try to convert a Jehovah's Witness. Just isn't worth expending the breath.
And I'm comfortable with my life and my career, and I don't hide my name, unlike those of you who have to hide your identities behind aliases and sockpuppets. I'm just not comfortable with ignorant people insulting Anastasia's memory by telling so many lies to make her killer seem "innocent". This blog's original writer was correct: Byron Case is a sociopath.
I'm not trying to convince YOU, I'm putting this out to protect any innocent bystanders who might stumble across this and actually believe the paranoiac rants of a convicted murderer's fan club if there was no rebuttal.
Aaron and Evelyn made a point of slandering people with false information, so I responded with facts about them and about their boy, facts that they are not comfortable with. They put up claims about the murder and investigation, I put up facts to rebut those claims.
Got anything constructive to add to the debate? Something other than mindless attacks? No? Then you're just wasting bandwidth, which is what you seem to do best.
FKJ .. ok .. first of all i think the only reason you are on here is (1) you dont have a happy life ( that shit is obvious) go get layed or something ..(2) i seriously think you are on here to confuse everyone into beleiveing your story .. "you cherry pick small items you think will "prove" your assertions" -FKJ .. you talk about yourself and don't even realize it.
Jamie,
FJK... FKJ??
Anyway, Yes... I was snitched on by a guy.
I doubt you have the depth of character to hack it in a place like that though
well, I did get to read a lot you know, the state is required to furnish any and all evidence . . . A lot of discussions.
but I can say I was never in fear of Byron Case at any moment, ever. He's not a murderer... doesn't have it in him.
FJK... FKJ?? Anyway, Yes... I was snitched on by a guy. He had once been a really good friend, but he wanted to get to my girlfriend, and took me out by telling the cops about burglaries we had done together. Yep... did 'em all. The prosecutor was fair, and the judge was just. I was guilty and plead so as well... I knew it was wrong also!! Imagine that. I just did dumb stuff when I was young and got a 14 year prison sentance out of stealing about 3,000 dollars. Seemd fair to the state of Missouri... I did my time for my wrongs against society, and a professional board of people who work for the state of Missouri deemed my time fair and just and decided to release me back out into society. I'm sorry they didn't contact you regarding this, but hey, you are of little matter to anyone anyways, right? So, nowadays I work and earn everything I have and have a real appreciation for life and not wasting it... sound like you could learn a thing or two from a "stint". I doubt you have the depth of character to hack it in a place like that though, so you might be better off. All that time spent with Byron however, living in a cell with him 24 hours a day... well, I did get to read a lot you know, the state is required to furnish any and all evidence against an accused TO the accused. A lot of discussions. Strange thing is, I've spent a lot of time with murderers and such... but I can say I was never in fear of Byron Case at any moment, ever. He's not a murderer... doesn't have it in him.
Aaron, I'm all for "tactful" and "compassionate" if you're game to try it. However, I really DO expect a rational explanation for your having sent out that email last year. Since you refrained from name-calling in your last post, I will also.
We already have the letter you quoted from Byron Case. You sent it to Patrick in 2002, among the emails you sent out. It quotes the police report that you already mentioned in your other post. Again, on the day that report was made, it was absolutely obvious where Anastasia's body had fallen (I've seen photos that Robert shot of the area from that day), though perhaps not the exact angle, and her father was in an understandably agitated state. It should also be noted that the officer who made that report (Epperson) later testified for the prosecution in Case's trial. The only cross-examination he got was whether or not he could tell if the act "was committed by a stranger or an acquaintance of the victim". He had an opportunity to ask about Robert WitbolsFeugen and did not.
And before you fall back on the tired old "incompetent lawyer" argument, it should be noted that Byron Case has already run that appeal through the courts and didn't blame his attorney for that "mistake". You have to expect that he had a hand in his own defense strategy, since he had him offer evidence of the distance from the Amoco to Inland Drive, when that never came up in court otherwise. In addition, Case already lost his appeal on "Ineffective Counsel", an appellate court having ruled against him in February and the Missouri Supreme Court refused to consider it in May, so his arguments about an "incompetent lawyer" are over and done with as far as appeals go. If you're trying to free your guy from prison, arguing issues that the court has already ruled upon (and which cannot be used any further as a basis for appeal) is a waste of time.
You seem to be depending a lot on the idea that if there's not a document declaring Robert WitbolsFeugen innocent, he must still be under suspicion. In debate, that is called an "argument from ignorance" (argumentum ad ignorantiam): if you cannot prove me wrong, then I must be right, regardless of whether I have any evidence myself.
It doesn't work that way. Cops don't make reports saying "I have checked this suspect out and he/she is clean". As many times as Robert WitbolsFeugen requested interviews with Sgt. Kilgore, and as hostile as they had been toward each other, if he had been considered even the slightest bit suspect, Kilgore would have run him down with a tank and grilled him at least one time when he had the opportunity. He didn't do so.
You keep wanting to cast aspersions, but you could call Sgt. Kilgore at the Sheriff's Department today and ask him whether or not he suspected Robert. You don't do that. It seems you'd rather keep false suspicion alive than have it confirmed or refuted. You're more interested in the issue than its resolution.
As for the insurance policy, Case wrote his letter to you BEFORE you wrote your letter to Patrick apologizing for having put up such "crazy questions". I am assuming that this issue is closed for good now, and that you understand that Robert took policies out on his entire family, NOT just Anastasia.
And I asked earlier for you to show DELIBERATE intent to mislead on Robert's part, as opposed to a distraught father battling with a frustratingly slow police investigation, and I've seen nothing there.
I've answered your latest issues, and I'm still waiting for you to respond to the issue of the tacit admission, with something other than what the jury already heard and rejected.
Do your own research!
Working on a post. Didn't want to write something down in a hurry. Wanted to be tactful and show a little more compassion and sympathy. On my upcoming post I will discuss several things, including my reasoning for my e-mail, which was in fact 98% true.
In the mean time, I will share
this letter that Byron sent me six years ago, before I started researching the case for myself. Do your own research!
AV out. :)
September 17th, 2002
Dear Aaron,
Oh man, you would have to ask me for specifics about the Sheriff's Department investigation! It's cool, though; I needed to get back into that pile of paperwork for a little refresher course, anyway.
The report I mentioned in which Robert WitbolsFeugen made his weird appearance in Lincoln cemetery was written by Deputy David Epperson (the officer who originally found Anastasia' S body) and is dated October 24th, 1997. In it, Epperson writes that he and Deputies Montgomery and Ebert went to Lincoln Cemetery. He writes: "Upon approaching the circle drive I observed Mr. WitbolsFeugen to be standing with his hands on his hips standing directly over the exact location where I had found Anastasials body on 10-23-97. Mr. WitbolsFeugen was looking at the ground for approximately five seconds before turning around and seeing me. Upon seeing me he appeared startled and turned around walking very quickly towards my police vehicle with his left hand tucked firmly in his pocket. Mr. WitbolsFeugen approached me and asked �Am I close?� referring to where the body was found. I again advised Mr. WitbolsFeugen that he should contact the detective unit for specific information and he spontaneously stated �what are you guys doing following me? 1�m not the bad guy. You guys should be out looking for the bad guy!� I then attempted to calm him down by advising him that we were there to check his closure to his grief."
This same report makes mention of Robert w.� s claim that he was in the vicinity at about 11: 30 on the evening of the 22nd when he heard a gunshot. The report reads: "I observed Mr. WitbolsFeugen's demeanor change when he began talking about the gunshot and describe his actions upon hearing [it]. He appeared to switch from grieving parent to excited and colorful, describing in detail his emotion upon hearing the gunshot."
The life insurance policies Robert W. had on Anastasia both named him as sole beneficiary and were through Cuna Insurance Company (a $20,000 policy taken out in February of 1992) and J.e. Penny Insurance Company (a $12,000 policy taken out on 10-20-97). I'm not entirely sure if the Penny�s policy paid out or not because, around July of '98, WitbolsFeugen filed a complaint with the company. A Penny's representative told Sergeant Killgore (who was in charge of the investigation) that the only reason they hadn't paid the death benefit was because WitbolsFeugen refused to sign their Indemnity and Hold Harmless Agreement forms. Whatever the hell this was all about, I have no idea.
As far as WitbolsFeugen giving false information goes, there were so many instances of this, I don't know where to begin. The most obvious and blatant example of this was his story about: having seen my white '90 Pontiac 6000LE on Truman Road that night (impossible, because it was at Burch Engine Service for a bad water pump at that time). He changed this story many times. Later versions mention a long procession of cars moving away from the direction of Lincoln Cemetery and my red Merkur XR4Ti (which I didn't even own until July of �98) being one of them. He even went so far as to compile detailed lists of the cars� colors and license plate numbers, which he swore were accurate despite ten months having passed since the night in question. There were more details added to the story as time went on, but he maintained that he saw me racing down the road �white as a sheet".
WitbolsFeugen also lied to police about when he got off work that night, first claiming that he was working until 9:00, then saying he was at a friend's house, then claimed to have been at a meeting after leaving work. I don't know that his alibis were ever actually investigated. There's nothing in the discovery about it, anyway.
Sigh. I think that covers all your questions from that last letter. As always, let me know if you've got more. For right now I'm going to end so I can get this out in the morning mail. More soon, I promise.
Byron
Ooh, you got me. Wait, no, you missed again.
"obsessed crazy man"
"spewing venom and personally attacking anyone and everyone that you can"
"honor Anastasia? By focusing on your hate?"
FKJ: You do your cause absolutely no good by coming on this forum and acting a like an obsessed crazy person, spewing venom and personally attacking anyone and everyone that you can.
Is this how you have chosen to honor Anastasia? By focusing on your hate?
If so, you have some serious issues.
Thanks again for using a sockpuppet, Aaron, and showing anyone who sees it your cowardice. You just can't defend yourself, so you create new diversions to further cloud the issue.
And you have NEVER addressed the issues I raised as to Byron Case's guilt, so we have to assume you're accepting them. You've been caught on several incorrect statements and outright lies. You won't address them. You just keep attacking me, hoping no one will remember that Byron Case is really guilty, that the proof is out there, and that you can't rebut it.
And Aaron/John, YOU are the ones with the guerilla tactics. Don Buchwalter is NOT a member of our "camp", just a defector from yours. Other than apologizing to the family for his earlier actions, he has had no contact with us. The truth is, you've all been hiding for a long time before Mr. Buchwalter defected, and a long time before I started calling you on your lies.
Serving legal papers is "stalking"??? Well, welcome to AaronWorld, everyone. A PI took all of 5 minutes to run your name through a police search (she got more information off his criminal record than anywhere else), and it took that much time just to confirm that you hadn't been missed somewhere when he only showed up at his parent's house. But when you've made up such a fake life for yourself, have a real possibility of being directly responsible for your friends' little "social" group being taken down, AND you've spent so much time denying reality, yeah, I guess you can redefine a well-understood legal principal to say that you DON'T stalk but that everyone who doesn't like you DOES stalk.
Stalk you? Don't need to. I live more than a state apart from you, and you still live with your parents. And about a year ago, the FBC web site USED to ask for money, for legal advice, AND . . . wait for it . . . A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR!! For what purpose was YOUR side wanting a P.I.? Don't worry, we ALL know, though I'll bet you weren't worried about already being stalked by someone like Aaron.
You're all hypocrites. You were going to use a P.I. for the same reason you do anything, to hurt people. You're not trying to uncover evidence that will exonerate Case, you just want to harm others.
Just remember, YOU started it. I have copies of all of those crazy emails you wrote to Patrick, making wild accusations, apologizing and then having a nutty again within the same message. We have a history of all the threats you've made, and a list of the people you've stated you hate. We have the complete canon of wild ramblings that Evelyn Case used to anonymously vandalize our guest book. We know it was her who anonymously called police to make accusations against Patrick.
Man, if we ever stooped to YOUR level of attacks, you'd REALLY be crying.
When you can explain rationally why you sent out the email with Patrick's address, only THEN will you be able to discuss "stalking" without everyone laughing at you. Glass houses, asshole. You're nothing but a hypocrite. All you're able to do now is hide behind sockpuppets and accuse me of being a big meanie. I have shown you that we have the proof of your incitement to harass, and you just keep changing the subject when we all know you're lying. As your friend Byron about how well that kind of tactic worked for him.
The Missouri Department of Corrections has no business concerning themselves with the actions of private citizens in a public forum. Byron Case doesn't even read things like this, much less have any involvement, either directly or indirectly, with comments made. He's not some great puppet master orchestrating attacks from a correctional center. The fact of the matter is that he doesn't even like to discuss these things.
We "hide" behind aliases because your camp has proven itself to be both malicious and obsessive. Hiring a private investigator for the purpose of locating an address where papers can be served is superfluous and equivalent to stalking. How many people would want to volunteer any identification to you after you admit that you HIRED someone to stalk someone?
FYI, Aaron, I don't live in Missouri, and neither do you. If you DID live in Missouri, where you say internet harassment is a crime, then Patrick Rock and Robert WitbolsFeugen would both have already had your wanker ass in jail and facing civil suit by now. You are the one engaging in harassment, not anyone else.
And BTW, slander and libel are crimes in EVERY state. If you were as brave as you claim, you wouldn't hide behind the internet with your false accusations. You'd put it out there with your signature on it and take your chances, but we all know that you're coward.
Your FBC wankfest has been made up almost entirely of cowards who hide behind anonymous sockpuppets. Actually, it's been mostly made up by you.
Your paranoia, thinking I'm Patrick (when he long ago gave up on engaging any of you) is no different than when you were posting behind sockpuppets on Thoughts.com. You've redefined the word "obsession" again to exclude your apparent need to stalk two middle-aged men and one 20-something woman.
Isn't it ironic that when one a member of the FBC Circle Jerk attacks the family of a murder victim while hiding behind a sockpuppet, you think it's amusing and for a good cause, but when someone from the victim's family, giving their name, does much less to you in response, you want to whine and call it harassment? Go find a lawyer, at least one who could use a laugh. And speaking of internet harassment . . .
Say, Aaron, does THIS look familiar to you?
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Greetings!
This is Aaron Vermeulen,
I've been cleaning out my external hardrive and have a real treat for you .....motherfuckers...
Sorry, I love to cuss.
Those that know me best, know that I'm straight up ruthless! Except no imitations!
Hey when in Rome right? Cheers! :0
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Get an eye full you dumb bastard!!!! My husband is not the liar you claim he is, No not even close. He is a wonderful father, provider, and yes HUSBAND, something you will never compare to in your pathedic life. Once again FUCK OFF! You need a hobby and you chose ranting in a free magazine's plog to fulfill that, but none the less don't fuck with my family. Get a good look at HAPPINESS cause it will be private soon.
Ha ha ha. You got me! You got the tater! Listen, anyone that knows me and is my friend, has been over to my residence and has met my family. I feel really bad for the absence of purpose in your life.
I'll dig deep and put together something special for you Mr. Rock.
More soon. Your friend,
Aaron Charles Vermeulen