By CHRIS RASMUSSEN
Last week I wrote about Royals' fans delusional belief that the Cardinals are our rivals. Here's a concurring a post from the talented Andrea Reiher, who blogs for Bugs and Cranks, Zap2It and Ladies... After the jump, she provides the Cardinal fan's perspective on the I-70 Series.
"The St. Louis Cardinals and the Kansas City Royals bookend the state of Missouri, but the state is not divided evenly, with fervent fans of both teams meeting in Columbia to rumble like the Sharks and the Jets. If that were to happen, it'd be more like six rabid Royals fans show up with their switchblades and all the thousands of Cardinals fans stay home to watch the Cardinals game.
I'll confess: I'm not from Missouri. I grew up a Cardinals fan in Iowa, but I did spend my college years in the Show-Me State and I have to say … there is a more smack-talking, fanatical rivalry between the Cubs and Cardinals fans in the state of Iowa (where neither team resides) than there is between the Royals and Cardinals fans in the state of Missouri.
Yes, yes… the 1985 World Series. I don't remember it. I was four. Most of the Cardinals fans don't remember it either. We're over it. We've had tremendous success since then and we just can't get all fired up about playing the Royals. It's kind of like playing your little brother, who is significantly younger than you, legally blind and has a limp.
Was it embarrassing to drop three in a row to aforementioned lil' bro at home? Sure. But it would've been equally embarrassing if it had been the Mariners or Padres. It's not the fact that it's the Royals that make it a problem, it's the fact that it's a bad team. Fortunately, we then marched into Fenway and gave the Red Sox the business, and I guarantee Cardinals fans and players were looking ahead to that series before the Royals even came to Busch.
In fact, there are a lot of teams I would say we have rivalries with before the Royals: The Red Sox (for 2004), the Astros (for 2005), the Mets (for 2006), the Tigers (for 2006), the Padres (for every NLDS), the Yankees (because everybody hates the Yankees), the Cubs (for every season since the dawn of time), and the Phillies (for Scott Rolen).
Sorry, Kansas City. We just don't care that much about you."
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Shes not hot, shes chubby, sorta masculine (think female softball player, which she was...what do they generally look like?). She also enjoys sleeping with married men.
Shes not hot, shes chubby, sorta masculine (think female softball player, which she was...what do they generally look like?). She also enjoys sleeping with married men.
Not a rivalry, hmmm... It seems there are some facts that may dispute your opinion.
Attendance
@ St. Louis (Season Average - 41,899)
Game one: 43,793
Game Two: 43,810
Game Three: 44,277
@ KC (Season Average - 20,370)
Game one: 36,360
Game Two: 37,537
Game Three: 31,803
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Kansas_City_Royals_season#June
As you can see, attendance was above average for the games at both venues.
St. Louis posted an average attendance increase of 2057 over the three game series.
The games in KC show a substantial increase in attendance of 14,000, well over the season average.
What demographic was the most likely cause of the rise in ST. Louis? Royals fans.
More importantly what demographic was the most likely cause of the increased attendance in KC... Not Royals fans, but our cross state "RIVALS".
Furthermore, I do not need attendance figures to prove the fact that St. Louis fans consider the Royals a rival; the sea of red at Kauffman stadium was enough evidence to prove that ST. Louis fans consider the Royals a very real rival.
Opinion is one thing, facts are another. Next time try backing your opinion up with some real facts, otherwise... shhhhhhhhhh!
So she was using time and situational rivalries to insult the Royals and prove that their past rivalry due to time and situation no longer exists? Oh man, do I feel stupid now.
The Red Sox and Tigers? The Phillies because of a guy now playing in Canada? So what you're saying is that if this was the mid-1980s there would be no reason for this article? Of if they Royals moved instead of the Brewers? Basically what you're saying is that MLB baseball rivalries are all based on timing and situations.
You obviously completely missed the point. She was using rivalries from the last 5 or so years (save the Cubs) to illustrate how little regard St. Louis has for the Royals "rivalry." She wasn't saying at all that rivalries depend on timing and situations. It was a joke and it sailed a mile over your head.
Claire, it's not that I didn't find the post to be funny. I just found the reasoning to be hilarious.
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They were actually up 2 games to none and 3 games to one. I actually agree with you concerning the 85' WS (championship teams don't unravel like that in the 9th inning of Game 6-- the passed ball, the Clark dropped popup-- not to mention Game 7).
Cardinal fans I know, though? After they won the championship two years back, they don't care as much. Before then, particularly a decade back? YIKES.
Chimpo, it sounds very much like you DO care. Also, have you heard about such things as "humor" and "sarcasm" and "hyperbole for the sake of being funny?"
Pitch commenters are as bad as Yahoo commenters. Or those Barbaro loonies.
Umm, excuse me she may be a Cardinal fan but she shouldn�t be for the City of Saint Louis and its citizens. I lived in "The Lou� from 1999-2004. Every single time I meet someone they would ask 2 questions. "Where did I go to high school?" (Don�t even get me started on how they think they have a monopoly on that question.) And the next would be Where ya from?" Every time I told them �Kansas City�, they would start to bitch, whine, and moan about how they were "robed" in '85. I would then retort, �Hey, you were up 3 games to none. All you had to do was win one more game. But you couldn�t so you suck�. I would then agree that it is and was the worst call in the history of baseball. But too bad if your players were any good or had any talent then you would have won one more game.
She may be a Cardinal fan and she may have let it go but, the Citizens of Saint Louis never have let it go and never will.
So fuck them, and fuck St. Louis
I would expect there to be a lot of smack talk going on in Iowa, what with all of the shit else left to do in the state. While neither team is in the state of Iowa, both the Cubs and Cards have minor league affiliates in the state. And let's not forget that the Cubs and Cardinals had about an 80 year head start on the Royals for attracting fans in the region.
There are three actual rivalries in the history of baseball. One hardly exists anymore (Giants/Dodgers), one only exists for fans of the teams (Cubs/Cards) and one is shoved down our throats every year by ESPN (Yanks/Sox).
The Red Sox and Tigers? The Phillies because of a guy now playing in Canada? So what you're saying is that if this was the mid-1980s there would be no reason for this article? Of if they Royals moved instead of the Brewers? Basically what you're saying is that MLB baseball rivalries are all based on timing and situations.
As a Royal fan, I'll keep calling this a rivalry. As a Royal fan, I encourage the Cards to keep looking past us as we help them lose the division. As a Royal fan, we just don't care that much for you.
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