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Balloon boy is only one of many UFO hoaxers. In fact I am waiting for someone that knows anything at all about UFOs. It is a way to make money. The folks who might know something are not stepping up to the podium but their anecdotal evidence would not be less than faked pictures and videos. It is time to put a group of Joe Blows on the stage to tell their individual sighting stories and or telepathic conversations. That would not at this time be less credible than anything else that is being said. Not to me. Joe Blows that don't stand to make money from sharing their stories. The average person that is talking to the average person about what they have seen and/or experienced is much more likely to be the truth. The other thing is there might IMHO be a lot of PSTD among people who are reporting abductions and such. They may be reliving a past that is not the present. I don't want highly traumatized people on the anecdotal stage either. Give me Joe Blow the college professor or Joan Blow farm wife and well those are the stories I would like to listen to. I don't want any stories from anyone that has written a book or made a film or is otherwise cashing in on UFOs. Well I like the artisans that make UFO art. MB

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Posted by Obamasurfs2009 on 03/19/2011 at 9:44 AM

Stan is a phony. The use of Fallow by the witness, the air force and him proves it.

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Posted by Dave on 02/01/2010 at 5:48 PM

Why do you not believe in me? Haven't you seen the pictures? Your government wants you to believe that I do not exist, but I do. Please believe in me.

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Posted by KansasVoter on 01/05/2010 at 10:26 AM

Alian child, you needz 2 write sum bookz.

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Posted by Ainos on 01/05/2010 at 8:35 AM

I have bin fallowed by UFO's sense I was a young boy. I am pretty sure my mother was made pregnut by an alian and I was the offspring of that lovemaking. It has not bin an easy life.

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Posted by Alian Child on 01/03/2010 at 1:43 PM

I don't think Lisa Romanek's good at reading for comprehension.

Or at hoaxing, either.

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Posted by Leddi on 12/31/2009 at 1:59 PM

My guess is Romanek has had a few legitimate experiences onto which he has added some embroidery for good measure.

Let's face it, calling a press conference to announce he would only show the entire footage in an upcoming movie was not a good beginning.


>>PS

To the so-called skeptics here, my goodness you have a lot to learn! A truly rude awakening awaits you...

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Posted by Eric on 12/29/2009 at 2:01 AM

["How does the organization guarantee that its investigators prize reason over wishing?"]

Oh, probably the same way the police guarantee their investigators and officers will be critical thinking, just individuals who will not be swayed by their personal beliefs or opinions.




Oh wait...

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Posted by Deirdre on 12/28/2009 at 11:53 PM

Congrats on your investigative piece and the results it achieved. There probably is intelligent life on other planets, but I doubt any has visited here. UFO beliefs are spread by nuts, conspiracy theorists, and frauds. I hope I see more articles in the Pitch exposing irrational and fraudulent beliefs.

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Posted by giantslor on 12/28/2009 at 8:29 PM

How is it silly to believe in extra-terrestrial life? I think it's naive to believe we are the only intelligent life forms in this infinite universe. The Drake Equation suggests that there are other advanced life forms in the milky way galaxy alone, much less throughout the universe. How is that at all comparable to an invisible, all knowing, all seeing, controller of all existence? And his enemy, the monster who lives in the fires below, who's only purpose is to be evil and eat your soul? Stan Romanek is a douche. And an obvious phony. And an easily spottable phony, from miles away. Just because a person believes in UFO's or ET's, doesn't mean they're going to swallow every story they read or hear regarding the subject. Every ET believer that I know, approaches every UFO related story or video or photo, or any other supposed evidence with even more skepticism than a neutral party.

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Posted by Taylor on 12/28/2009 at 7:26 PM

I absolutely believe in UFO's because I have seen them. However , Stan Romanek strikes me as a huge fake. His video of the Alien looking in the window is too good to be true. if they can fly here across the galaxy, why the hell would they get out and look in someone's window. It just cant be real. That is the same problem I have with Roswell. They are too smart to fly all the way here and then crash.

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Posted by pharmakos on 12/28/2009 at 2:36 PM

Nice comment John P. O'Hara. Why did you spell follow incorrectly? It is one of the major issues Mr. Carrion has with Stan's case... follow/fallow. You are now a figment of Stan's creativity... according to Carrion. Anyone who misspells follow, will need to show James Carrion thier ID in the form of a drivers liscense to prove you are"really you." Please use spell check if it was an honest error. If it was done to make a your comment stand out,and create a chuckle don't be a chump, this is not a game.

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Posted by Lisa Romanek on 12/28/2009 at 2:36 PM

Good fallow up on this story. I�m glad you left it unseeded for awhile so it could recover its natural fertility. This story, although inactive for a long period, has the possibility of activity or use in the future.
As Far As I Can Throw You, JPO

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Posted by John P. O'Hara on 12/28/2009 at 1:45 PM

Lisa has a declaration from the "alleged" anonymous source who allegedly wrote a report 8 years ago? That proves as much as a signed affadavit from a monkey's ass.

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Posted by Shaky on 12/28/2009 at 1:18 PM

awesome critical information about the lies behind this new american religion called UFOism.

I can only hope more media would focus on debunking frauds

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Posted by homeskooled on 12/28/2009 at 12:43 PM

Dear Mr. Scherstuhl,

First, let me say "thank you" for not only taking the time to broach the UFO subject, but to do so with pith and substance; as you are undoubtedly aware, this is a rarity with the mainstream media.

That said, I got a kick out of the title of your latest piece; certainly grabs the reader's attention, albeit an exaggeration.

A minor correction: Rick Nelson "isn't with The UFO Chronicles"; we published James Carrion's OPED, "Lost in Space," and in fairness to all sides concerned we published Mr. Nelson's rebuttal (and have continued to publish both sides of the debate).

Finally, we've recently published an OPED by Lisa Romanek (currently at the top of The UFO Chronicles site); in it, Lisa names the "fourth," previously anonymous poster to NUFORC, and includes a declaration allegedly from him.

Respectfully,
Frank Warren
Publisher/Editor
The UFO Chronicles

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Posted by Frank Warren on 12/28/2009 at 12:12 PM

Unfortunately, you are correct, this discussion is not over yet and I am sure this comment will be construed as ME being defensive again, but I feel it is important to share a few details that were left out of this article.
James Carrion continues to search for the "truth" or at least what he will accept as the "truth" by making accusations that I am a liar, and about Stan making up these reports himself, and other such unsubstantiated claims as well. I have not witnessed James Carrion doing any investigation into anything concerning this case. He IS writing a lot of blogs, starting a lot of arguments, calling names and making accusations, and not only against Stan, but others (Open minds forum) and others as well, but he is not doing anything else!!! Why is that?
I have tried in the past few months to provide James with an explanation for why these NUFORC reports had the misspelled word follow/fallow in them. He didn't want to listen then nor does he want to listen to them now!!! WHY?
Stan assisted two of the individuals with typing the reports; even Peter Davenport from the National UFO Reporting Center (http://www.nuforc.org/) credited Stan for his assisting other witnesses with submitting their reports back in 2001.
I have posted these reports and statements from each of the authors of the reports...the witnesses to the sightings here:
http://www.theufochronicles.co...
My hope is that this will bring a close to at least this issue. I wish I could explain all of the misspellings of follow as fallow, but I just can�t do it. I am thinking that bloggers, who posted the comments in question, left a trail back to themselves via their IP addresses, so why hasn�t James demanded that the site owners of the blogs in questions release the IP addresses to him, for his scrutiny? INVESTIGATE! If he wanted to find John Mannon, couldn�t he? If he wanted to trace the anonymous posters couldn�t he? Why isn�t he doing it then? Perhaps it is better for HIM to instill doubt about Stan�s evidence, and stay in the public eye as the �truth seeker�� but wouldn�t it be better for him to alleviate doubt ( accept the truth) about Stan�s claims and be the real �truth seeker� that he claims to be?
I would like to point out that you named the author of this statement from the Rense site www.rense.com..."I have been enthralled with the Romanek case for some time now it is a great story. As I fallow his adventures on your site, I see something that others have missed."I believe it was authored by someone claiming to be John Mannon not Steve Coe. Mr. Carrion has taken issue with this poster publically demanding that "The real John Mannon please stand up." He puts his demand out as a challenge or a threat of some kind, WHY? (He is so clever)
Your comment... Maybe even more hilarious is this line, which is at least spelled right: "But Mr. Romanek is smart and stubborn and has a good support system." He's also a dreamboat!
I am glad you personally added the dreamboat part, which made me laugh.
This statement:
He (James Carrion) also discusses Romanek's failure to allow third-party investigation of his video and photographic evidence on the November 22 edition of Gene Steinberg and Davide Biedny's excellent Paracast podcast.
James really shouldn�t discuss what he doesn�t know about! He does not know what has been done or not done with any evidence, by whom, or where... and in his not knowing the details, apparently it has resulted in Stan's "failure to allow third-party investigations" WHAT???!
It seems that James is having a hard time discerning between "blatant lies" and "true facts" Even when presented with proof of truth, he can�t or won�t see it����..WHY?
My question is, Why has James taken Stan's case so personally, and why Now after refusing to help (this is the "blatant lie" I am accused of�That James spent 5 hours at our house and said MUFON would not get involved! Not a lie, it is a fact!!!) a few years ago?
Until he began questioning this �follow/fallow �misspelling, and trashing on Stan and the evidence, very few people knew who James Carrion was, even as International Director of MUFON� now everyone knows his name. And yet, does anyone know who James Carrion really is...? It made me laugh when I visit his site, and he gives his information and encourages anyone to check him out, as our right �Freedom of Information Act, and we are allowed to any information that is �allowed� to be released�due to his Army intelligence rank, they will only allow basic details about him to be released�but he looks like is being open and honest... A real �Truth Seeker� because he puts out that offer to show his military records. I find that openess Hilarious.

Blessings to all,
Lisa

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Posted by Lisa Romanek on 12/28/2009 at 12:03 PM

Dear Alan Scherstuhl,
I was one of the person who felt what James did was wrong. The problem is he received the document and never notified Romanek about the post he was about to publish on it. He got the document through back channels. I agree with his take on the evidence though there are some very serious questions around this case. I know there were MUFON investagators involved in this case I wonder how they missed all this.
I let Raomanek know at the 40th MUFON Conference I felt his book was noticeable absent of any evidence. I had a friend who knew him and swore by him, now even he is bewildered. I am going to the International UFO congress he is going to speak and I hopefully will be able to question him. I try and support the witnesses of UFOs and give them the benefit of the doubt, but there comes a time where you say "where the beef", especially when they are making money.

Joe Capp
UFO Media Matters
Non-Commercial Blog

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Posted by Joseph Capp on 12/28/2009 at 11:14 AM

Try using the same criteria for proof of god that you would use for proof of ET and you will soon see there just isn't any real proof. And BTW the "divine intervention" card which is used to explain everything about religion that is ridiculous, just doesn't hold any water!

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Posted by Anonymous on 12/28/2009 at 10:39 AM

There are those who do have authentic experiences but for some reason decide to expand and create more than has actually occurred.Or some(very few) decide they like the attention and adrenaline rush that comes with the experiences and decide to keep them going.The second these people take this route it discredits any real experiences they may have had no matter the evidence.My advice,keep it real!

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Posted by GodlessPeace on 12/28/2009 at 10:35 AM

Why is it that people can plainly see that it's silly to believe in alien UFO's but they don't use that same reasoning to see that organized religion is just as silly. The last line of this article can just as easily be applied to religion as it can to belief in aliens.

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Posted by KansasVoter on 12/28/2009 at 10:35 AM

Thanks for the update; I had forgotten about this story.

I think it's fascinating just how badly people want to believe in things they can't see, then tear each other apart when another's belief doesn't manifest itself in the same way as theirs.

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Posted by jjskck on 12/28/2009 at 9:11 AM
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