It's election day, and I don't want to feed any conspiracy theories like the douche lords running the Star's Prime Buzz blog. But here's my voting experience on the west side of downtown at a seniors' building where little old ladies sell baked goodies and make sure you get your "I voted" sticker before you leave.
Around 8:30, I walked over to the polling place. In the yard were signs for Sen. Jolie Justus and Jackson County Legislator Henry Rizzo. I didn't bust out my tape measure, but I'm guessing they were 25 feet from the building's door -- as Missouri law requires. I wasn't about to call bullshit, even if it bordered on illegal.
But on the way in, three people from three different camps
handed me fliers. There was Justus' smiling face and a card listing La
Raza's slate of candidates like items on a takeout menu. Then a
hippie-looking woman handed me a card for Shaheer Ahktab and
instructed me where to find him on the Democratic ballot. Fine,
whatever. I got the feeling she would have followed me into the polling
place and point to Ahktab's name on my ballot if I would have let her.
Didn't need any help, so I blew her off and went inside to vote. I
picked my ballot (so many options, all color-coded -- i.e., pink for
issues, white for Democrats, etc.).
Diebold be damned, I cast
my vote electronically and headed off with a voting sticker (but no
sweets). On my way out, Ahktab's worker interrupted my departure. "Did
you vote for Shaheer?" she asked.
A little stunned by her exit
polling, I laughed uncomfortably and said, "I can't tell you that," then
walked away. I dug Ahktab's flier out of my pocket and re-read it.
"Proven grassroots organizer." Yep, he's definitely got this grassroots
thing working.
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Does your city commission hold rallies and protests to spread racist literature and speech? Didn't think so.
So why does LRP harbor xenophobes and allow this kind of behavior in its name? The answer is obvious.
And Mr. Cook, you're part of the problem.
Why is every member of my local City Commission white? Ridiculous argument, Dave. You have lost all credibility.
I was at the Levee too, Greg. Were you part of every single conversation there? Rather doubt that. Care to address any of my points instead of deflecting like all the other Ron Paul robots from LRP?
Why is every member of LRP white?
Why are members permitted to preach hate when publicly representing LRP?
Or maybe explain why LRP defends these racists by hiding behind the first amendment?
If Liberty Restoration Project had any credibility left, they'd have already announced a house cleaning and kicked out the bigots. Before you give a dime to these people, know it's only going to serve white interests.
I was at the Levee too, Greg. Were you part of every single conversation there? Rather doubt that. Care to address any of my points instead of deflecting like all the other Ron Paul robots from LRP?
Why is every member of LRP white?
Why are members permitted to preach hate when publicly representing LRP?
Or maybe explain why LRP defends these racists by hiding behind the first amendment?
If Liberty Restoration Project had any credibility left, they'd have already announced a house cleaning and kicked out the bigots. Before you give a dime to these people, know it's only going to serve white interests.
I am responding to dave b I was at the LRP watch party last night and you are a liar and you are spreading disinfo there was not one word about the jews or any thing you say in your post and by the way i am the white guy that came in with the two Mexicans you are a liar i would love to call you a liar to your face you are nothing but a disinformation agent who do you work for the FEDs
People, pay careful attention to the way Andrew responds to my comments. He doesn't address the issue of LRP members using LRP logos, protests and sponsored events as a convenient cover to spread hate. He dodges that topic because he knows it's true and there's simply no way to spin it otherwise.
The fact is, Liberty Restoration Project turns a blind eye when members preach racist, pro-segregation hate speech. When anyone questions this, they claim that no one can tell another person what to say, citing the first amendment. This is completely ignoring the point... because we realize that sensible people do not publicly associate with vocal racists. That is doubly true for people pushing political platforms and "libertarian" candidates.
Yes, Andrew, I know racists in my neighborhood. The difference here is they don't wear my name and they don't represent me when they speak. We (normal, non-racist folk) make a point to actively shun these people because they are the ones who divide and destroy communities. They are the people who hate based on skin color or ethnicity. They are the people who turn neighbor against neighbor for political gain.
We don't need more of this garbage in Missouri. LRP needs to clean house.
Dave,
I did not say they were not members at all, I suggested the possibility. I have no idea who you spoke to because it doesn't sound like anyone I know.
Regardless, would you rather suggest forcing people to wear muzzles? Xenophobic trash are entitled to their opinions as are you. Nobody can control how anyone else represents themselves, short of trademark infringement, so it is up to people like you to think rationally and objectively, lest we fall victim to such remarks as, "All Democrats are socialists," or, "All Republicans hate poor people," or, my favorite, "All women can't drive."
"We know what you're really about..."
What "We" are you referring to? I'm pretty sure you have some bigots in your ranks.
The two I spoke to last night are definitely members of Liberty Restoration Project, and they were present and apparently quite close to more prominent members during the previous protests of red light cameras and the Federal Reserve. I know these people personally and attended LRP-organized protests with them as well. Now I'm ashamed that I spent any of my time and money helping LRP.
They used those protests and info-bombs as opportunities to hand out literature (complete with LRP's name and lantern logo) or speak to passersby, espousing the racist ideas I mentioned above. This is why so many people think you're bigots - because you allow xenophobic trash to speak on your behalf.
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. I know racists and xenophobes within LRP, who use LRP as a springboard to spread hate. You deflect my observation by saying they're not members at all or they're among the fringe who do not represent your ideas... except they are the public face of your organization. They wear your shirts, they go to your meetings and they represent you when they speak under your name. It's too late to spin it in your favor. We know what you're really about and the kind of people you count as members.
Dave B,
I appreciate your time for actually laying out a commentary stronger than mere name calling.
However, with that said, the basis of the statement, no matter how well written, has not been my experience.
Every organization, from law enforcement to the Boy Scouts, will have fringe elements, who do not speak for the whole. If these individuals you cite have made such comments, they are on behalf of themselves, not the Liberty Restoration Project.
Dave,
Your attitude doesn't sound much better than the two individuals you claim to have spoken to.
But how do you know those individuals were LRP members? They don't sound like any in LRP that I know. There were many people from different organizations and persuasions at the Levee. All are welcome in the common pursuit of freedom. Sounds like you struck up a conversation with some random folks, were offended by their opinions, and then assumed they represented LRP as a whole.
Perhaps you should take an afternoon to attend an actual LRP meeting, talk with actual LRP members, before making broad sweeping generalizations about entire groups of people based on one or two individuals.
Why is every member of Liberty Restoration Project white? Why does LRP count outspoken racists like those clowns above as members? These are important questions.
I'll admit that I was lured into attending some of their get togethers and red light protests earlier this year, but all the talk about Jews running the Federal Reserve and bankrupting good white folks left a bad taste in my mouth. Oh, and then there were the nonsense rants about black supremacists and Jews trying to put white activists into FEMA labor camps.
I should have known better, but I thought I'd give it one last try. So I went to the Levee last night and again met several LRP members who had no qualms sharing their bigoted views and racist conspiracy theories. Two of them specifically denounced the concept of multiculturalism as a threat to the family unit. Both went on to suggest that forced desegregation destroyed the United States. I'm sorry... what? Ya'll sound like that closeted xenophobe Rand Paul more and more each day.
LRP, you all remind me of reverse George Wallace, who infamously called for "Segregation now. Segregation tomorrow. Segregation forever!". He later wrote that he should have said, "States' rights now. States' rights tomorrow. States' rights forever!" Drop the facade already.
You will never gain the respect of the public if you allow these people in your midst. The first amendment is not a shield for cowards and bigots, but LRP continues to abuse it that way. It's sickening.
Peace,
Dave B.
I can't believe that someone that would disagree with you, Brian, would having nothing more to say than "I am a fucking retard" and sign it with your name. I wonder if they even have an opinion? ha. Good job, Brian
In regards to the comment posted under my name, at 11:27 AM:
That is not mine, as one could reasonably assume.
However, the individual responsible for the false post clearly is defined by the proper definition of the word "retarded," as they are clearly held back in their maturity, and likely have a difficult time following the discussion at hand.
Brian Hagen
I am shocked, if not disgusted, by above comments that have been posted in the good name of the LRP. I am a longtime Libertarian, and a supporter of the work LRP is committed to accomplishing, and will not stand for such
ludicrous posturing in their name.
I am certain, good sirs, who slander under the guise of representing this great group, that you hold none of their values. I am hesitant to even believe that you hold true to the comments you have posted; instead, it is with near certainly, that you wish only to defame their work for your as yet undisclosed personal agenda.
I take great pride in saying the accomplishment of LRP speak loudly on their own, and will not be affected with your vile, false comments.
Good day, dear fools.
Brian Hagen
We have never once spoke about elevating the race or taking back out land from non-white interests. We've only focused on issues, mainly local ones.
Liberty Restoration Project is compromised of a politically diverse group of concerned citizens who have decided to break down the arbitrary barriers (such as political parties) that divide us and work together as sovereign beings to focus on issues at the local, county, and state level. We believe in the principle of subsidiary; that power should be vested in the nearest locality. Our local representatives are much more accountable to us than are those over a thousand miles away in the District of Columbia.
We hold no prejudices. We believe in content of character. That is all.
Yo Jim, I'm a Libertarian. That means I have principles and selling my soul to La Raza, ACORN, Sarah Palin, or some nutjob who thinks white people should rule America because of their skin color ain't an option. My ancestors came from Germany after the Civil War, settled in mid-Missouri, lost the farm in the Great Depression, and got it back. I've worked in companies where work was outsourced to India, but you know what? My talents kept my job from going overseas, and besides, it wasn't my company to run in the first place. I'm guessing you're probably one of those guys who hollers about property rights, yet wants to keep Muslims from building a cultural center a couple blocks from Ground Zero. Principles mean something, platitudes don't.
I think LRP should be encouraged by the fact that opposition trolls intentionally confuse and convolute Tracy's and LRP's positions with racist tones. You know you've scared some moonbat into a towering, frothing frenzy when they just start propagating libel in an anonymous forum.
I'm with Martin all the way. Who the hell are you people? Probably liberal plants trying to screw everything up just like the false flag neocons who hijacked the Tea Party. It's so disappointing to see the Liberty Restoration Project fall apart after all this hard work.
Goodnight, LRP. What happened to all that talk of elevating the race? Taking back our land from non-white interests? This is just great, ONE MORE hope for true freedom crushed by Obama's secret police. Sissy and John, what's La Raza or ACORN paying for your eternal souls?
OUR people laid the foundation at Bannister Mall and look what happened when it was handed over to minorities. OUR people built Swope Park and the handout seekers ruined it. OUR people fought to defend our property and good white people like me do time for BS weapons charges. OUR people founded this nation and now you sellouts are letting them roll over us again. Traitors!
14 Words.
Live it, learn it, love it. Stop hiding. This is what we're really about.
We don't condone anybody because of their race, color, creed, or nationality. We're for individual liberties and freedoms for all, adherence to the constitution, and educating to make a difference on a more local level.
Martin, follow that link I posted and let me know just how liberal and socialist I must be. I've followed the LRP a bit and I don't think they buy into your nationalist claptrap.
John, only a liberal, socialist sympathizer harboring white guilt would say something so foolish. I'll bet you drink fluoridated water too.
The Liberty Restoration Project is spearheading Missouri's push to take back our rights. As the results will show tonight, today we stood tall to reclaim the constitution that has been torn to shreds with sweetheart deals for special interest groups. Civil rights, my tush! More like handouts for the lazy.
I'm a proud LRP supporter and your hate speech will never slow us down. Other proud patriots can join us tonight at The Levee on 43rd St. and help us celebrate another blow against tyranny and the multicultural insurgency.
Martin, I'm guessing that your forefathers didn't always live in the nation's heartland and they sure as heck weren't white if they did. Thankfully folks were kinder to my German ancestors than you are to today's new arrivals.
Why all these "multicultural" candidates in our nation's heartland? We need to protect the white heritage of our founding fathers and remind the minorities that they can't steal the fruits of our labor. I'm thinking pink and voting Tracy Ward for city council in the upcoming election.
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