Wednesday, September 15, 2010

Kris Kobach's Pennsylvania anti-immigration bill struck down by federal court

Posted by Ben Palosaari on Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:00 AM

click to enlarge Kobach's precious laws are beginning to tumble in court.
  • Kobach's precious laws are beginning to tumble in court.

Kansas Secretary of State candidate and check-cashing anti-immigration superhero Kris Kobach's nationwide journey to oust illegal aliens hit a road block late last week when a federal appeals court voided a law he wrote for Hazleton, Pennsylvania.

The Illegal Immigration Relief Act, which Kobach lovingly crafted for the town of around 30,000 in eastern Pennsylvania in 2006, was intended to fine landlords who rent to undocumented immigrants and deny permits to companies that hire them. The ACLU sued saying that cities can't infringe on immigration enforcement because it's a federal matter. Because, you know, they're doing an amazing job of it.



The three-judge panel agreed, saying, "It is ... not our job to sit in

judgment of whether state and local

frustration about federal immigration policy is warranted. We are,

however, required to intervene when states and localities directly

undermine the federal objectives embodied in statutes enacted by

Congress."

The law has been nothing but a four-year-long pain

the ass for the town. A federal judge shot the law down once before in 2007, but

pesky Mayor Lou Barletta says his hamlet is going to fight all

the way to the Supreme Court. Unfortunately for Barletta and all

Hazletonians, Kobach The Righteous' services don't come cheap, and laws

that violate federal law are expensive to defend. Media Matters calculates

that the city has spent $2.4 million arguing for the law in court and

paying Kobach. The town eventually ran out of cash to defend the law

and took up a donation for to pay the bills. But the $1,000 fines for

renting to an illegal will totally make up that once the high court

vindicates them. Totally.

Kobach, in full campaign mode (i.e.

full of it), told the Associated Press, "It's going to be difficult for

this opinion to stand. The court really

had to stretch to find a way to agree with the ACLU." He has also announced that he's going to have a press conference in Topeka today and unveil "a new policy that will effect the roll [sic] of the secretary of

state." No word on exactly what Kobach will be talking about, but the brief press release notes his involvement in S.B. 1070, the infamous Arizona immigration bill he co-wrote.

Smack talk

aside, Kobach laws are failing in other parts of the country, too. Before it went into effect, S.B, 1070 was partially blocked by a judge earlier

this summer, and a Fremont, Nebraska, law similar to Hazleton's faces its own

court challenges. But Fremont's City Council apparently is much

brighter than Hazleton's. They've suspended

their Kobach law to avoid spending a crap-ton of cash they don't have to defend it.

It's good to see a few people are thinking logically about immigration bills, even if it's only to

cover their asses financially.

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As an employee, you'll be able to get itemized deductions on your job-related expenses, within limits. You can claim tax relief by filing Form 1040, Schedule a. If you want more info about this you can examine out the instructions given on the form.

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Posted by Michale Jahns on 10/10/2010 at 11:15 PM

The Declaration of Independence, Article IV, Section 4.

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion, and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence."

If I invade your home and hurt your family members, you'd have me arrested pronto.

Illegals are invading my country and commiting countless crimes against my fellow citizens.

Here is the liberal stance: let's encourage them and reward them with housing and welfare.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome.

Don't demonize Kobach just because he has the decency, courage and integrity to uphold the law.

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Posted by TparTQueen on 09/16/2010 at 8:18 AM

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Posted by State Tax on 09/16/2010 at 4:38 AM

I'm not sure if Fremont's city council is smarter than Hazelton's council. Simply because something is to expensive to defend and a group backs away from it doesn't mean that it is the "smart" or "best" action to take. Just because an action is the right thing to do doesn't mean it can be done.

Our country is bankrupt, and yet the government continues to spend what we don't have. Now that is not smart.

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Posted by Anonymous on 09/15/2010 at 7:45 PM

You should try dealing in the facts and discussing the issues instead of imputing motives and attacking your opponant's character

You mean like the "Saul Alinsky School for Radicals" - that sort of dealing in the facts and discussing the issues? Sure sounds more like imputing motives and attacking character to me. You ever heard that old saying about the pot calling the kettle black?

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Posted by Realist on 09/15/2010 at 2:46 PM

It is interesting the wording "check-cashing". Kobach does have a right to earn money to pay his own bills doesn't he? What about the lawyers at AILA do they work for free? From AILA job posting: "Salary Information: Depends on annual billings, experience, and future potential revenue generation" In other words, illegal immigration attorneys make money by representing LOTS of illegals.

Kobach makes money on behalf of the constitution and AMERICAN CITIZENS. I'm on his side.

Regarding that illegals are paying more than you think...

they do not pay social security, employment,or FICA taxes: 15.30% taxes

they do not pay income tax

they do not pay any taxes that support child care, medicare, medicaid, education.

Yet they use all of those services while contributing NOTHING! Just facts.

We need more Kris Kobach's in office who defend the constitution (greatest document ever penned) and America citizens.

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Posted by FoundingFathers on 09/15/2010 at 12:08 PM

All of this makes me want to ILLEGALLY cross the fence (fence jump) to Mexico and protest the MEXICAN immigration laws, .. as I am an AMERICAN citizen. .... I have that right, don't I? (blantant sarcasm)

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Posted by Truth Teller on 09/15/2010 at 11:41 AM

I see you have labeled (libeled) Kobach a check-cashing anti-immigration superhero, Kobach the Righteous, in full campaign mode (I guess to imply he is disingenuous). Did you learn how to write "smack talk" at the Saul Alinsky School for Radicals? It is an old stale dead ineffectvie tactic that doesn't work any more. You should try dealing in the facts and discussing the issues instead of imputing motives and attacking your opponant's character.

Chris Kobach is in fact a Patriot who realizes there is an illegal immigration problem in this country and has decided to use his expertise, the law, to change it to make it more effective.

Clearly illegal immigration is having a negative effect on our country and needs to be dealt with. Criminal activity, like drug trafficking, human trafficking in the sex trade, identity theft, gang violence (kidnapping, rape, murder, etc.), DUIs, driving without a license/insurance, and the basic lack of respect for our laws is cause enough for concern. When the federal government repeatedly fails to fulfill its responsibility, a reasonable person would try to address the problem at the state, county or city level. This is what Chris is doing. He understands that there has never been a country that has survived that has failed to control its borders and enforce its laws.

I have met Chris and I support his efforts and personally admire his integrity. To imply that he does this for the money says more about you (who apparently will compromise the few principles you may have to make a buck) than about him.

What is your suggestion for dealing with illegal immigration? Amnesty.

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Posted by Dave on 09/15/2010 at 11:23 AM

Que Buenoo guay

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Posted by david on 09/15/2010 at 11:06 AM

If the laws fail, we could just force the fence jumpers back across the river with guns.

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Posted by Duke Nukem on 09/15/2010 at 9:09 AM

Truth (relatively speaking) really depends on how the FACTS are twisted to prove a point, rather than gathering evidence and coming up with a conclusion.(according to FACTS)
Much of what is written above is true but twisted and so much is left out... is there room for a book to be written and posted here?
Much like the Declaration of Independence has been maligned into an economic crisis, so has illegal immigration...
Those against AZ SB 1070 always seem to leave out the moral portions... the human trafficking, drug trafficking, and violence that it all presents.
Sure, lost jobs are an issue� and taxes.. Don�t forget those taxes... the demorats holy grail... but when TRUTH is known, illegals rarely register their vehicles which they drive illegally without proper licensing / insurance, etc. What is the economic AND social impact attributable to that?
Phoenix is the kidnapping capital of the world, or close to it. Where are our young children being taken? I would encourage those who want the whole Truth to check out www.CWFA.org and see what is happening to those who disappear... the vans that are loaded with illegals coming north are NOT empty when headed south. Check out http://www.legion.org/document... for a concise booklet by the American Legion on this subject.
What about the millions of dollars that are being sent south every year� NOT being spent to strengthen our domestic economy???
Divide and conquer... an unsuspecting people will fall for this nonsense, but those who want to be informed will check out all the facts and realize FACTS has not done his / her homework... only propagandized.
I am not going to write a book, but just to let those interested in TRUTH know, Kris Kobach is a champion for the innocent hard-working American Citizens and should be cloned for all 50 states.
And enough with the name calling.

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Posted by Constitutional Conservative on 09/15/2010 at 8:42 AM

Kobach makes the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ while the BRAINLESS Republicans & Supporters stand in line for Welfare, Disability, & Social Security.
STOP BLAMING THE POOR MIGRANTS FOR YOUR FAILURES.
Look at FACTS NOT SPIN POLITICS. USE YOUR BRAIN, Not your BIASED EMOTIONS.

Before you Scream and show Ignorance and Hate at least read the Immigration Law regarding Undocumented Immigrants. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/...


The Undocumented immigrants paying more taxes than you think!!

http://www.cfr.org/content/pub...

http://www.immigrationpolicy.o...

http://www.immigrationpolicy.o...

Eight million Undocumented immigrants pay Social Security, Medicare and income taxes. Denying public services to people who pay their taxes is an affront to America�s bedrock belief in fairness. But many �pull-up-the-drawbridge� politicians want to do just that when it comes to Undocumented immigrants.

The fact that Undocumented immigrants pay taxes at all will come as news to many Americans. A stunning two thirds of Undocumented immigrants pay Medicare, Social Security and personal income taxes.

Yet, nativists like Congressman Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., have popularized the notion that illegal aliens are a colossal drain on the nation�s hospitals, schools and welfare programs � consuming services that they don�t pay for.

In reality, the 1996 welfare reform bill disqualified Undocumented immigrants from nearly all means tested government programs including food stamps, housing assistance, Medicaid and Medicare-funded hospitalization.

The only services that illegals can still get are emergency medical care and K-12 education. Nevertheless, Tancredo and his ilk pushed a bill through the House criminalizing all aid to illegal aliens � even private acts of charity by priests, nurses and social workers.

Potentially, any soup kitchen that offers so much as a free lunch to an illegal could face up to five years in prison and seizure of assets. The Senate bill that recently collapsed would have tempered these draconian measures against private aid.

But no one � Democrat or Republican � seems to oppose the idea of withholding public services. Earlier this year, Congress passed a law that requires everyone who gets Medicaid � the government-funded health care program for the poor � to offer proof of U.S. citizenship so we can avoid �theft of these benefits by illegal aliens,� as Rep. Charlie Norwood, R-Ga., puts it. But, immigrants aren�t flocking to the United States to mooch off the government.

According to a study by the Urban Institute, the 1996 welfare reform effort dramatically reduced the use of welfare by undocumented immigrant households, exactly as intended. And another vital thing happened in 1996: the Internal Revenue Service began issuing identification numbers to enable illegal immigrants who don�t have Social Security numbers to file taxes.

One might have imagined that those fearing deportation or confronting the prospect of paying for their safety net through their own meager wages would take a pass on the IRS� scheme. Not so. Close to 8 million of the 12 million or so illegal aliens in the country today file personal income taxes using these numbers, contributing billions to federal coffers.

No doubt they hope that this will one day help them acquire legal status � a plaintive expression of their desire to play by the rules and come out of the shadows. What�s more, aliens who are not self-employed have Social Security and Medicare taxes automatically withheld from their paychecks.

Since undocumented workers have only fake numbers, they�ll never be able to collect the benefits these taxes are meant to pay for. Last year, the revenues from these fake numbers � that the Social Security administration stashes in the �earnings suspense file� � added up to 10 percent of the Social Security surplus.

The file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year. Beyond federal taxes, all illegals automatically pay state sales taxes that contribute toward the upkeep of public facilities such as roads that they use, and property taxes through their rent that contribute toward the schooling of their children.

The non-partisan National Research Council found that when the taxes paid by the children of low-skilled immigrant families � most of whom are illegal � are factored in, they contribute on average $80,000 more to federal coffers than they consume. Yes, many illegal migrants impose a strain on border communities on whose doorstep they first arrive, broke and unemployed.

To solve this problem equitably, these communities ought to receive the surplus taxes that federal government collects from immigrants. But the real reason border communities are strained is the lack of a guest worker program.

Such a program would match willing workers with willing employers in advance so that they wouldn�t be stuck for long periods where they disembark while searching for jobs. The cost of undocumented aliens is an issue that immigrant bashers have created to whip up indignation against people they don�t want here in the first place.

With the Senate having just returned from yet another vacation and promising to revisit the stalled immigration bill, politicians ought to set the record straight: Illegals are not milking the government. If anything, it is the other way around.


The Undocumented Immigrants pay the exact same amount of taxes like you and me when they buy Things, rent a house, fill up gas, drink a beer or wine, buy appliances, play the states lottery and mega millions . Below are the links to just a few sites that will show you exactly how much tax you or the Undocumented Immigrant pays , so you see they are NOT FREELOADERS, THEY PAY TAXES AND TOLLS Exactly the same as you, Now if you take out 10% from your states /city Budget what will your city/state look like financially ?

Stop your folly thinking , you are wise USE YOUR WISDOM to see the reality. They pay more taxes than you think, Including FEDERAL INCOME TAX using a ITN Number that is given to them by the IRS, Social Security Taxes and State taxes that are withheld form their paychecks automatically.

Taxes, paid by You & the Undocumented are the same in each state check your state : http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/ra...

GAS Taxes paid by you & the Undocumented are the same. Go to and check out your states tax; http://www.gaspricewatch.com/u...

Cigarette Taxes paid by you & the Undocumented are the same, check this out in : http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/ra...

Clothing Sales Taxes, are the same paid by you & the Undocumented Immigrant; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

City Taxes, are the same paid by you or the Undocumented, since he pays rent and the LANDLORD pays the city : http://www.town-usa.com/statet...

Beer Taxes, are the same paid by you or the Undocumented: http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/ra...

TAX DATA : http://www.taxfoundation.org/t...

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Posted by Facts on 09/15/2010 at 6:44 AM

http://wildcat.arizona.edu/per...
Gov. Jan Brewer, who signed S.B. 1070 into law, and the legislation�s principal architect, Russell Pearce, both have extensive financial ties to the private prison industry powerhouse Corrections Corporation of America, a company which stands to profit in the sum of millions if Arizona�s �papers please� legislation is enacted.

CCA, one of the leading providers of detention and correction services in the country, holds the contract to imprison all federal detainees in the state of Arizona. S.B. 1070 would lead to more arrests on federal immigration charges, causing money to pour into the gargantuan coffers of the private prison industry and directly into the bank accounts of those who are financially tied to it.

Republican state senator Pearce submitted a draft version of S.B. 1070 to the American Legislative Exchange Council for revision months before the bill was introduced to the floor of the Arizona Senate. Pearce is one of 35 Arizona legislators who belong to this organization.

Two years prior, ALEC was the recipient of millions of dollars in contributions from CCA and Geo Group, two of the largest private prison companies in the state.

Pearce�s financial records also indicate that the political action committees funded by both CCA and Geo Group have donated the maximum amount allowable to his campaign.

Gov. Jan Brewer�s deputy chief of staff, Paul Senseman, is a former CCA lobbyist. His wife Kathryn Senseman currently lobbies the state legislature on behalf of the company.

Still more damning is the fact that the governor�s leading policy advisor, J. Charles �Chuck� Coughlin, is the president of Highground Consulting, the lobbying firm which represents CCA�s interests in Arizona.

CCA also contributed a total of $10,000 dollars to the Prop 100 campaign earlier this year, an initiative, along with S.B. 1070, which set the stage for Brewer�s reelection bid.

Phoenix CBS affiliate KPHO was among the first to report on this glaring conflict of interest. In retaliation, the Brewer campaign pulled ll advertisements from the network.


The economics of immigration, Stephen C. Goss, the chief actuary of the Social Security Administration and someone who enjoys bipartisan support for his straightforwardness, said that by 2007, the Social Security trust fund had received a net benefit of somewhere between $120 billion and $240 billion from unauthorized immigrants.

That represented an astounding 5.4 percent to 10.7 percent of the trust fund's total assets of $2.24 trillion that year. The cumulative contribution is surely higher now. Unauthorized immigrants paid a net contribution of $12 billion in 2007 alone, Goss said.

Previous estimates circulating publicly and in Congress had placed the annual contributions at roughly half of Goss's 2007 figure and listed the cumulative benefit on the order of $50 billion.

The Social Security trust fund faces a solvency crisis that would be even more pressing were it not for these payments.

Adding to the Social Security irony is that the restrictionists are mostly OLDER AND RETIRED WHITES from longtime American families. The very people, in other words, who benefit most from the Social Security payments by unauthorized immigrants.


THE FACTS ARE THAT JAN BREWER AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOING THIS TO GET REELECTED, HERE ARE FACTS.

1, HOW MUCH MONEY $$$$$$$ IS ALLOCATED TO ENFORCE THIS LAW?? NONE.

2, HOW MANY NEW POLICEMEN / WOMEN SHES HIRED TO HOLD AND PROCESS THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS? NONE.

3, HOW MANY NEW IMMIGRATION JUDGES SHES HIRED TO PROCESS THE THOUSANDS OF DEPORTATION CASES?? NONE.

4, HOW MANY NEW JAILS SHES BUILT TO HOLD THE THOUSANDS OF UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS? NONE.

5, HOW MANY BUSES / PLANES SHES BROUGHT TO DEPORT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF THOSE WHO ARE ORDERED BY THE IMMIGRATION JUDGES TO BE DEPORTED?? NONE.

CAN ANYONE ANSWER THESE FACTS? THE REPUBLICAN STATES ARE TRYING TO MAKE THIS THEIR PLATFORM, THEY WILL LOSE BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG TIME.
ALL ARE GODS CHILDREN. NO HUMAN IS ABOVE ANOTHER. ALL ARE CREATED BY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD WHO LOVES ALL HIS CHILDREN.
I AM NOT SAYING DON'T CLOSE THE BORDERS I AM SAYING STOP THE FOOLISH HATE AND IGNORANCE.



Moments after signing Arizona's tough new immigration law in April, Gov. Jan Brewer was asked WHAT A ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT LOOKS LIKE????

The question, posed during a news conference that was broadcast live on TV, seemed to catch Brewer off guard. After a long pause, she said, "I DON'T KNOW WHAT A ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT LOOKS LIKE. I can tell you that there are people in Arizona that ASS-U-ME they know what an illegal immigrant looks like. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY KNOW THAT FOR A FACT OR NOT."

Her answer cut to the very heart of the controversy surrounding the law, which takes effect July 29. Although there are many people who assume they know what an illegal immigrant looks like, the fact is, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to tell a person's immigration status by appearance, experts say.

So despite assurances to the contrary, some civil-rights groups and others fear that enforcement of the law will lead to racial profiling. Several lawsuits already raise worries of civil-rights violations, and a group of Arizona law professors concluded the law authorizes enforcement based on ethnicity. That, they allege, would mean officers would end up harassing and possibly detaining people who aren't illegal immigrants.

The vast majority of illegal immigrants are Hispanic. But most Hispanics in Arizona are not illegal immigrants - they are legal residents or U.S. citizens, many with roots dating back generations.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizo...




What both these Republicans FORGOT to Mention in their SPIN POLITICS is that

It�s all about economics! Removing undocumented workers from the U.S. would total a loss of $1.8 trillion in annual spending and $651.5 billion in annual economic output, according to a study by the economic analysis firm The Perryman Group. It would cost about $28 billion per year to apprehend illegal immigrants, $6 billion a year to detain them, $500 million for extra beds, $2 million to judicially process them and $1.6 billion to transport them home. $230 Billion is the estimated amount it would cost over the next five years to enact the scenario of the mass-deportation caucus and deport the undocumented population, according to a report by the Center for American Progress. Legalization of undocumented immigrants would significantly expand the economy�by a cumulative $1.5 trillion in gross domestic product over 10 years. A deportation approach, by contrast, would have the cumulative effect of draining $2.5 trillion over 10 years from the U.S. economy. Illegal immigrants are paying their share of taxes, they pay the same taxes as you and me when they purchase anything, They don't carry a card that says Undocumented Immigrant, DON'T CHARGE TAXES
Start looking at FACTS & NUMBERS.

Who�s behind these laws?

FOLLOW THE MONEY$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Many may want them gone, but illegal immigrants in Oklahoma can be good business.

So say county officials who handle the purse strings of some sheriff's departments in the state. Millions in revenue for transporting and detaining immigrants for the federal government have financed jobs, departments and, in some cases, entire jails.

"It's a good business plan,� said Tim Albin, chief of the services division that oversees the budget for the Tulsa County Sheriffs Department. "It allows us to bank and put money back and carry over for other things.�

Read more: http://newsok.com/jailing-immi...

The Immigration Reform Law Institute, or IRLI, the legal arm of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, or FAIR, drafted the Arizona law and most of the copycat bills. The Southern Poverty Law Center designated FAIR a hate group because of its founder�s writings, its repeated participation with white nationalist groups, and its receipt of major funding from a racist organization.

Copycat laws frequently rely on the work of attorney Kris Kobach, who works for IRLI. Kobach�s lawyering has cost localities who have hired him millions of dollars while the laws have been found unconstitutional. The Arizona law was brought forth by State Senator Russell Pearce, who the Arizona press has described as having a history of associating with neo-Nazis and sending anti-Semitic emails.

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Posted by Facts on 09/15/2010 at 6:39 AM

Easy to see why Kobach isn't running for Attorney General.

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Posted by Realist on 09/15/2010 at 6:35 AM
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