For 43 minutes Monday night, MSNBC will give us a deeper look into the murder of Wichita abortion provider George Tiller. A special edition of The Rachel Maddow Show called The Assassination of Dr. Tiller will air at 8 p.m. on the progressive cable news network.
This is must-see TV for anyone interested in Kansas' abortion politics.
The Maddow-narrated doc features interviews with Sedgwick County District Attorney Nola Foulston, who prosecuted Scott Roeder; the lead attorney on Roeder's defense team, Mark Rudy; former patients of Dr. Tiller; and abortion opponents Randall Terry, Troy Newman and Mark Geitzen.
Also, a never-before-seen interview with Tiller following a 1993 attempt on his life. "There was never any question in my mind that I was going to go back to work the next day," Tiller says. "I was going to work -- hell or high water. I'm not going to be run over, and I'm not going to be run out. It's just that simple."
The Topeka Capital-Journal says Tiller's colleagues appear to think Roeder didn't act alone.
"The ones who don't carry guns definitely incite the ones who do haveOperation Rescue leader Troy Newman argues: "It's the furthest thing from the truth that we were in any wayguns," says physician Shelly Sella, with Joan Armentrout, Tiller's
office administrator, adding: "They gather all these people up. They
fill them with hate, and then they stand back when the least imbalanced
among them does something, they stand back and say they didn't have
anything to do with it."
involved in George Tiller's murder. We were shocked and horrified by it,
just like everybody else."
The Star reports that in a "chilling" scene from Tiller's March 2009 trial on 19 misdemeanor charges related to his practice, Roeder is "seated next to the leader of anti-abortion group Operation Rescue."
At the time of his arrest, murderer Roeder had a note in his car with the phone number of Cheryl Sullenger, Operation
Rescue's senior policy adviser, who in 1988 was convicted of
conspiring to bomb a California abortion clinic. Sullenger later told the Star that she helped Roeder track Tiller's court dates.
I haven't seen the documentary, but I'll definitely be watching tonight.
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I applaud you for standing by your convictions. Your wife, on the other hand, seems to have been planning a surreptitious (and dishones) termination of a life that both of you created. She, however, was selfish enough to consider her needs only. She would have been cared for, obviously, and was under no threat from the pregnancy. Frankly, I think you are better off without her. She sounds like a cold, callous individual and I'd have to wonder if/when I might become too much trouble as well.
I am not a liberal and I care very much about both babies and puppies. People want to see it as either or.
It's interesting to me that so many people cry and weep for the poor female who might actually have to accept responsibility for becoming pregnant and carry a baby to term. Without sounding vindictive, what is wrong with accepting responsibility for your acts. Why is a helpless baby the only one whose life apparently means nothing? Tell me one other aspects of life that we screw up have such a tragic Get Out Of Jail Free Card (paid for by the baby) to erase all evidence we didn't act responsibly. Those receiving abortion are more often than not repeat customers. I cannot fathom what has possessed us all to turn our backs on the most helpless, these babies, and to throw out their little bodies as medical waste.
Can I go out and gamble and lose the money I need to pay my bills and then expect someone else pick up the tab.
How is it we provide attorneys to everyone charged with a crime, even to confessed killers, confessed serial killers, so that they have someone looking out for their interests, advocating for them in court when a little baby who has absolutely no way, no means to speak on his own behalf let alone get an advocate who will plead for his life?
My mind rebels at the obvious disparity in the concern and advocacy for certain human beings. What in the world is wrong with us, my God, I have seen pictures of these little babies. They have faces, eyes and a nose, hands with fingers. Those whose lifes are extinguished by partial birth abortions, their little hands are moving, clutching, trying to hold on to life right up until the time his executioner severs his spinal cord, plunges an instrument into his brain and then proceeds to suction his brains out of his head.
WTF is the matter with people. If I ever give in to the overwhelming feelings I have of sadness, if I start crying, I will never stop. It is hard for me not to cry, it is hard for me not to despair. And yet, for all the compassion I have for the children who have no advocates, all my viewpoints garner me is hatred, accusations of being a busy-body who should mind her own business.
There is so much pain in the world today, I do not see us ever recovering from the moral decay that will eventually destroy us.
I despair, inside I cry and am only second away from giving in to the overwhelming need and urge to cry, but for what? No one cares about the reason for my tears. The reason for my tears is also a reason for people to hate me, to spit on me, to threaten me.
No one seems to understand how this is not about my desire to control someone else, all I ask is that they be willing to give 7 months of their life, long enough for the baby to grow to term and then he will be out - gone if she desires. Why is 7 months of the life of someone who played a part in her condition too much to ask. Why is an innocent babies life viewed as disposable in comparison to 7 months of her life which is apparently too much to ask for.
This is so sad, so overwhelming, and no one sees what is happening. People turn their minds off to what abortion is because fallible human beings in black robes declared that infants have no rights. The most violent, hateful, disturbed, homicidal sociopaths have rights but baby has none. My mind screams at the thought, omg, what can we be thinking, please God tell me why?
I just wanted anyone�s opinion on if I was in the wrong here, and what any of you guys would have done in this situation. So my wife is quite liberal and I�m more on the conservative side, and she�s about 3 months pregnant. She can�t work right now, so I�ve been forced to support her as of late. The thing is that about a week ago she started asking me if she could borrow $400, and being pretty secretive about the reason why. I soon found out that $400 was the average cost of a back alley abortion, which is ridiculous considering that she knows how vehemently pro-life I am. After refusing to give her the money and the countless hours of arguing that ensued, I ended up making a comment about how if she wanted to do something liberal with $400, she should take advantage of Obummer�s � ARRA,� so that �instead of murdering our kid, he can have satellite internet at a smashing price!� (I linked it so you can actually see it�s about $400 in taxpayer money that our President chose to waste on this s**t, aren�t I so funny hah). The messed up part is that she went and told her dad, who happens to be just as liberal as her, and who also happens to own the house that we�re renting. To make a long story short, my tenancy has been �suspended� from his house (I�m now staying at my buddy�s place until this thing blows over) and he gave her the money to get the abortion. I haven�t talked to her in almost a week, so it�s pretty safe to say that she has already gone through with it. So my question is, do you think I was being inappropriate for mocking my wife and father in law�s political ideologies, or do you think I�m being unfairly persecuted because of my relative conservatism, and the Obummer joke I made has little to nothing to do with this? I�m thinking the latter.
I just wanted anyone�s opinion on if I was in the wrong here, and what any of you guys would have done in this situation. So my wife is quite liberal and I�m more on the conservative side, and she�s about 3 months pregnant. She can�t work right now, so I�ve been forced to support her as of late. The thing is that about a week ago she started asking me if she could borrow $400, and being pretty secretive about the reason why. I soon found out that $400 was the average cost of a back alley abortion, which is ridiculous considering that she knows how vehemently pro-life I am. After refusing to give her the money and the countless hours of arguing that ensued, I ended up making a comment about how if she wanted to do something liberal with $400, she should take advantage of Obummer�s � ARRA,� so that �instead of murdering our kid, he can have satellite internet at a smashing price!� (I linked it so you can actually see it�s about $400 in taxpayer money that our President chose to waste on this s**t, aren�t I so funny hah). The messed up part is that she went and told her dad, who happens to be just as liberal as her, and who also happens to own the house that we�re renting. To make a long story short, my tenancy has been �suspended� from his house (I�m now staying at my buddy�s place until this thing blows over) and he gave her the money to get the abortion. I haven�t talked to her in almost a week, so it�s pretty safe to say that she has already gone through with it. So my question is, do you think I was being inappropriate for mocking my wife and father in law�s political ideologies, or do you think I�m being unfairly persecuted because of my relative conservatism, and the Obummer joke I made has little to nothing to do with this? I�m thinking the latter.
More precisely, the righteous execution of Dr Tiller is the way I would phrase it.
Imagine how many babies have survived because this one evil man, Dr Tiller, is gone!
Point being:
Most liberals are more likely to give a shit about a puppy, and not the human counterpart, a baby.
@Viewpoint
You are dangerous and mislead. If Roeder shot a puppy mill operator he should have the same fate as shooting any person.
You probably agree with Roeder when he said something along lines, "No man has the right to take human life, that is why I had to kill Roeder." I don't know if that was verbatim or not, but right along that line of thought; which is so fucking hypocritical and sociopathic that it makes me chuckle every time I think about it.
Roeder is pussy bitch for trying to plead innocent. Fucking coward got hyped up to be the matyr of the century then didn't want to go to Federal Fuck-Me-In-The-Ass Prison.
Kill yourself, I doubt you follow the word of the Lord to the T either.
@Viewpoint, so...your perspective somehow uses an animal breeder as a stand-in for a woman's health provider? I'm gonna guess that any "distressed woman who may live next to" you is probably grateful that your tunnel vision doesn't permit you to see her as a person, since she doesn't need any kind of attention you'd offer.
You know there are more people (in MO) who give a shit about a puppy in cage than the possibility of actual human life in the distressed woman who may live next to them. A little perspective is what we need.
Think of it this way. If Roeder had shot a puppy mill operator, would we be having this conversation at all?
Where's my gun, I'll take out the abortion provider ...eeh .. I mean puppy mill operator today!
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