Kansas' progressive nature never ceases to amaze me. In a state where you still cannot buy full-strength booze at grocery and convenience stores -- 84 years after Prohibition -- you still cannot legally engage in gay sex. And to absolutely no one's surprise, Kansas lawmakers aren't about to repeal the law -- even though it's unconstitutional, the Topeka Capital-Journal reported.
Kansas' sackless leaders on the House Judiciary Committee -- both Republicans and Democrats -- reportedly are cool with letting the statute stay in Kansas' rule book, even though the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a similar law in Texas in 2003.
Reps. Lance Kinzer (R-Olathe) and Jan Pauls (D-Hutchinson) told the Cap-Journal that they thought a repeal of the sodomy statute was unnecessary because it's "unenforceable." From the Cap-Journal:
Kinzer said the sodomy statute wasn't being enforced inExcept that the existence of the law at all is a symbolic disrespect for gays and lesbians. But, hey, if it's anything besides scheduled missionary-position sex on a Saturday night, then I'm sure Kinzer disapproves.Kansas and there was no evidence homosexuals were being threatened by
police officers with arrest under the law.
"It's a tempest in a teapot," Kinzer said. "I don't think it would make
any difference. The statute is unenforceable."
"Rep. Pauls' endorsement of an unconstitutional statute that's used to threaten and discriminate against law-abiding Kansas citizens is an outrage," Witt told the paper.
Really, would anyone expect anything less in Kansas?
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The people as Westboro are so in the closet they have nothing else to do but look at the net using their homemade candles. They live in the world of the 800's, And yes I meant 800.
They are very willing to cherry pick the bible for their causes but do not bring up the rest of it where it applies to them.
But they will be judged not by the death of Christ but by the very law they choose to follow. Christ said so. God said so.
What amazes me is the those in the GLBT still vote by a large majority for Republicans who prove over and over their hatred for them except during the elections.
wow the religious right never ceases to amaze. but their uptight daughters looking to rebel sure make it worth putting up with.
The supreme court already has struck this down.
See Lawrence vs. Texas
It would cost MORE money for someone to have to fight the law in court because some idiot came along and tried to enforce an unenforceable law. It wastes the court's time. We shouldn't be passing unconstitutional laws in the first place. But when we do, we should correct the mistake as soon as possible.
The difference it makes it that, like in Texas, eventually some idiot will waste resources trying to enforce it and force some poor individual or couple to go to court over the issue, wasting the court's time and resources. Why not prevent that by getting it off the books?
That's what they said about the law in Texas, too until someone went and tried to enforce it. Why force people to go to court to defend their rights? If you know a law is unconstitutional, strike it from the books already!
sorry, my previous reply, obviously, was for darkmatter, not you.
What a angry hater you are. Why do you loathe yourself and America so much and why haven't you addressed your own same sex urges that are obviously fueling your over the top protest? Ever heard of projection? If not, see a psychologist or look it up as you seem quite disturbed. News flash, "Frisco" is not the mecca for gays it once was because there are fewer and fewer assholes like you every day and gays can live where they want and not worry about such overt hate like you seath. If you don't like gay people, you don't have to associate with them, so what's the issue and why do you protest so much? I don't go around saying we should burn hick Neanderthals like you for being so ass backwards and ignorant. I take comfort that when you say, "we", you don't speak for the vast majority of Americans and though I don't have a disease, I certainly would choose that over living with the venom you carry. If hell really does exist, you seem like a prime candidate.
When did "open minded" mean you couldn't have morals?
Laws matter whether they are enforced or not. Or would you be okay with a law that said the practicing Christianity was illegal? I'm pretty sure most people would be vitriolic in their anger over such a law, even if it wasn't being enforced?
As I said before (and I'll spell out better here), laws that have been deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, must be promptly addressed by the local, State or federal government to make them constitutional or have them repealed from the books.
Also, it's "probably" not "prolly."
yeah because your a person of real intelligence. How about you get off the internet now and go back to sucking a cock?
I've got to go with anyone one else with common sense, who gives a shit??? Can someone tell me when the last time this was enforced... prolly not. You fags need to keep you liberal shit to yourself, your not superior in any form. Sure your "open minded", but I'd rather have morals any day of the week. Just an example of how "open minded" you are, you want to force a state who has not interest or desire or REASON to support gay marriage. When this becomes an issue, when people are arrested for gay sex, please feel free to post shit like this.
So if slavery was still legal according to the lawbooks they would leave that law alone cos no one would enforce it?
Proof? How about some common fucking sense? I guess that's not good enough, huh? I mean.. the bible is real because god says so.. and god is real because the bible says so. What more proof do you need that god is real, right? The stupidity of religion ruins this earth.
Being we are not a Theocracy, your religious law does not apply here.
I am in Boston and I know that Kansas is not a southern state. It is statements like yours that makes the rest of the country assume we are a bunch of uneducated snobs.
As a Mississippian, it's a proud moment for me to be able to look down on another state for being socially backwards.
Separation. Church. State.
Your religion is not my religion. I do not have to live by your religion's rules. You do not have to live by my religion's rules. But we both have to live by the State's rules.
If it is against Bible law, which it is, it should have never been declared in any state as a legal practice to begin with. Does noone understand it is rebellion against Gods Law why we as a nation are in so much turmoil?
Thanks Darkmatter. But you were sooo much more gay friendly in the basement of the Streetside Saloon last night.
"Freedom Speech?" You're too fucking stupid to live. Please return your attention to NASCAR, dipfuck.
The issue isn't that the law is on the books, it's that it isn't being enforced. Take your faggot asses to Frisco. If we had you all corralled there like the disease-ridden animals you are, we could simply nuke the fuck out of you. Better yet, let's make some real progress by making this excellent law punishable by death via firing squad. Burn in hell, you fucking insects!
this law remains in the books simply because it's a topic that can easily stir the political fire come election time. i don't foresee overnight raids on the houses of buggering kansans anytime soon.
That is what he believes in. Don't tell him he's an idiot unless you have some kind of evidence he is wrong. His proof is the bible, which is supposedly created by a all-powerful being. What is your proof? Nothing.
simple, they should start enforcing this law. then the fags will whine, then the supreme court will strike it down. Unless you make it punishable by death upon arrest, that'll really turn some heads.
Firstly, who cares if you can't buy booze in your grocery store, that is what a liquor store is for. Secondly, some laws should just be abolished since they are not in correlation to the times. People get far too caught up in the law making system, it prevents any real progress from being achieved.
As for the difference: your hate-filled diatribe answers that.
why does anybody care? it is only a problem if people get arrested for it.
if they spent time removing it then wouldn't that cost money? i am no expert on politics but im sure it would take several people some amount of time and paperwork to remove it. and they all need to be payed. this may be a negligible amount but if everybody does this for everything then we are instantly wasting a lot of money. besides wouldn't that money be better used for a school or hospital?
Laws often become outdated and unenforceable. Local and State governments used to set aside a day every couple of years or so just to remove outdated laws. However, laws that have been deemed unconstitutional (illegal laws) should be removed immediately. In fact, having such laws on the books after final decisions by the high court simply means that the State has decided that the Constitution is not important. Kansas laws are NOT above the Constitution.
IF the law is unenforceable and is not enforced. What the hell difference does it make if it's still on the books. This is only another way for the gay community to thrust itself on the straight community. Let them suckers go back into a hole, I'm tired of this liberal bunch of bull and having to answer to all these minority groups for every little thing that comes up. This no offensiveness policy is for the birds.. Whatever happened to freedom speech .
kansas is a "northern" free state, read a history book dude.
lol, thats crazy, I guess no one has offered the lawmakers enough money yet to have it removed, that is what politics is all about you know.
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Lance needs a good gay hairdresser to help him with a life-like hair weave or just to shave his head bald. Or to give head -- Lance looks slightly homo-ish.
Problem is the law is on the books. The police & courts have the duty to enforce the law. We tell them every day, they can't pick & choose what laws to enforce.
What if a slavery law was still on the books (I know KS was a free state)?
This law needs to go now. So does any Lance.
He's another one of those Secretive Bible - Thumper Nut Jobs - with that Bible Belt Mentality, not only does he not like homo's - but clearly and evidently doesn't like Hetro sex either - and doesn't like women in General - thats why he's against Strip Clubs ! - "Kansas state Rep. Lance Kinzer" - "the same crap that "Conservative Republican" GOP - lawmakers have been pushing for years" ! Ya, and we'll Remember this come Election time too, and what they've done up in Madison Wisconsin with Workers Rights and their Retirement too ! Clearly, these "GOP Republican" - "Bible Thumpers" , and their Sick morbid ,mentality are clearly saying to the American People and its Workers & Communities across America , that they simply DO-NOT give a Rats Ass about YOU, or anything else, but Big Corporate Business and Big Bankers - The GOP- "Republi-Goon" (Republicans) are clearly stating that they are Against the American People its Workers and any rights you think you may have - and the US Constitution and Bill of Rights, for which they soon are Hell Bent on Destroying, by False Flag waving Rhetoric and ideas - The GOP "Republi-Goons" have made it very Clear now, they are nothing more than a WOLF in Sheeps Clothing and will Come prancing in, as a Gift Horse, when in Reality - they are nothing more than a "Trojan Horse" in utter Disguise !! Be-Forewarned, they are Very Dangerous - Deceptive - and outright Sneaky Creatures - what they say, how they act- compared to what they actually do, and Stand for are very Deceptive and Fraudulent & Corrupt - they'll outright Lie and "Fabricate" , all kinds of Ridlicious Mis-Conceptions and Rhetoric, to g