The prayer rally that Texas Gov. Rick Perry is leading in Houston on Saturday is looking more like a cautionary tale than a great awakening. Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback, the one governor who planned to attend the arena-sized day of fasting and prayer, now appears to be waffling in his commitment to the event -- perhaps out of recognition that it's creepy with homophobes.
One of the sponsors of "the Response" is the American Family Association, an organization whose views are so obnoxious that it's listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Bryan Fischer, the American Family Association's director of issue analysis for government and public policy, has stated that homosexuality "gave us Adolph Hitler, and homosexuals in the military gave us the Brown Shirts, the Nazi war machine and six million dead Jews." Fischer's Holocaust origin story is hardly the only stupid idea that has been promoted by the ministers who have attached themselves to the Response. One of the preachers who's an official "endorser" of the event attributed a rash of bird deaths in Arkansas to the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. In fact, the public face of the Response is so freakish that even Perry seems to want to keep a distance. A few weeks ago, a spokesman for the American Family Association intimated that Perry may not speak on Saturday. Now we learn that Brownback, too, appears to having second thoughts about attending a prayer rally that might make the 1992 Republican National Convention seem tame. From the Lawrence Journal-World:
In June, Brownback's office said the Republican governor had accepted an invitation from Texas Gov. Rick Perry, also a Republican and possible presidential candidate, to attend the event which is being dubbed "a call to prayer for a nation in crisis." Brownback's office said he would be going at his own expense. Since then, however, Brownback's office has been quiet on the subject. In recent days, the governor's office would not confirm his plans, only to say that Brownback would be on vacation during that time.The Journal-World story featured the comments of Thomas Witt, the chairman of the Kansas Equality Coalition, a gay rights group. Witt is appalled that Brownback is still a soft "yes" to attend the Response. "These aren't groups who just don't want gays to get married," Witt told the paper. "... [T]his is about showing support for organizations that would rather see us dead."
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In 2005 when we moved down here, we saw a bike at Austin Harley that was owned by Perry and it had all the living medal of Honor recipiants signitures on it. It was supposed to be raffled off with money going to charity. It was sold on Ebay and nobody knows where the money went.
I ahve studied the book of lies, myths and fairytales as my paternal grandfather in the 1920s and 30s was a baptist preacher in the Ozarks around Eldon, Tuscumbia and Noel, Mo. and also an athiest/con man. We used to laugh at the idiots who believed every word he said while he was taking their money. The prophesies in religeon are all so vague that any of them can be said to have come true. Even I can make that kind of prediction, "In the coming days war will come to man, the likes which we have never seen before. We will fight these wars in ways that are new to man. Watch and see." We are about to go to war in economics and anyone can see that. Kinda vague isn't it. If we are to fix our country, we need to tax the churches fairly instead of letting religeon have a free hand in scams against those stupid enough to fall for it. ( why do you think Grandpa got into that? No income tax!) Kinda like being told not to pay attention to all the scientists behind the curtain ( Wizard of Oz) who say the earth is millions of years old because we are supposed to believe the bible thumpers story that the earth is only 4000 years old. And all those prophesies were not written down because very few could read or write. They were stories passed down from idiot to idiot until Martin Luther wrote them all down. Check your world history. In the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve are the only humans, then had Cain and Abel. Well where did their wives come from? Along with all those people outside of Eden? Sounds like incest to me! Like Noah and his family were supposed to be the only ones left after the great flood covered the entire earth to restart the the human population. More incest. Like the Ark of Covenant that nobody but god could touch. Anybody knows that if you construct it like the bible's description, it will be a static electric generator. The story about the moon coming to be the color of blood and now we all know that happens anytime a lunar eclipse happens after a large volcanis eruption because of all the stuff in the air. Religeon is only popular because a lot of people cannot understand that when we die, we are dead and it scares them so they believe that crap. The light we are supposed to see just before we die? I've seen it three times as I have died three times due to being crushed by a building collapse, motorcycle accident and being hit by a drunk driver while working an car accident. It's called O2 deprivation to the brain. Luckily I had good emergency medical help and firefighter friends who would not give up on me. If we were to start taxing the church and make ALL CLERGY pay taxes, churches sooner or later become extinct.
Jeff....Seriously? Ever heard of spell check?
I live in Tx, and it surprises me that Governor Goodhair is not promoting this event as he once was. I guess he has figured out that...like my mama always said: "You are know by the company you keep". I guess now that he wants to be POTUS, he will need to back away from being publicly associated with these extreme points of view. Not that he has changed, mind you....he just hopes nobody will remember a year from now.Know your enemy, people....
When people say they went to the school of hard knocks they are just making an excuse for the fact that they remain uneducated. Many of us that have bothered with college ALSO went to the school of hard knocks., so stop with that holier-than-thou shit when it is just a cover-up for your mouth-breathing ignorance on display.
Wrong, the Bible was written thousands of years ago by several authors, separately, yet it does not contradict itself. One simple message, Salvation has come to us sinful men through the Messiah, Jesus Christ. Read it, research it. God is not afraid of you looking into it.
Reliability of the Bible include that there are more than 24,000 partial and complete manuscript copies of the New Testament. These manuscript copies are very ancient and they are available for inspection now. No other ancient book comes close, yet we have no trouble believing what Socrates and Plato wrote.
Don't you owe it to yourself to at least research the Bible? I challenge you to read the Bible and see if you can resist the love of the only Savior of the World, Jesus Christ.
There is no other book that has hundreds of prophecies, all fulfilled except for those that will be happening in the future. See if any of the psychics for the National Enquirer can even come close to 50% accuracy? While the Bible boasts of 100%.
I didn't know that the Bible has hundreds of written prophecies about Jesus the Messiah. Specific prophecies about where he was going to be born (Bethlehem of Judea...not Atlanta, GA or Athens, Greece), how he was going to die (crucified), that he would make the blind see, that he would be born of a virgin and resurrect (physically) on the 3rd day with hundreds of eyewitnesses seeing Him after His resurrection, etc. All those prophecies were written hundreds of years before Jesus came (so they could not be changed, it was already written). I was especially moved when I read that the Bible prophecied Jesus was going to be crucified, but that prophecy of his way of dying was written hundreds of years before crucifixion was even invented. It is enough information to at least make you want to look into the Bible. Don't believe when people say it is just another book, at least read it for yourself and research the historical accuracy of the prophecies and make your own decision. If the prophecies are true, then everything else the Bible says is true.
Start with the book of John, read the whole thing, a chapter a day. As you read, ask the God you don't believe, pray with a sincere heart: "Jesus, if you are real, help me to know You."
What do you have to lose? If He doesn't exist or you are not sincere in your praying, you won't know the difference.
Most people don't really believe in tolerance. It is tolerance for everyone except for true Bible believing Christians.
Unfortunately they have never taken the time to read the Bible (the whole Bible) and not take things out of context. Sadly they are staking their eternity on what others have said.
I challenge you to read the Bible and see if you can resist the love of the only Savior of the World, Jesus Christ.
I didn't know that the Bible has hundreds of written prophecies about Jesus the Messiah. Specific prophecies about where he was going to be born (Bethlehem of Judea...not Atlanta, GA or Athens, Greece), how he was going to die (crucified), that he would make the blind see, that he would be born of a virgin and resurrect (physically) on the 3rd day with hundreds of eyewitnesses seeing Him after His resurrection, etc. All those prophecies were written hundreds of years before Jesus came (so they could not be changed, it was already written). I was especially moved when I read that the Bible prophecied Jesus was going to be crucified, but that prophecy of his way of dying was written hundreds of years before crucifixion was even invented. It is enough information to at least make you want to look into the Bible. Don't believe when people say it is just another book, at least read it for yourself and research the historical accuracy of the prophecies and make your own decision. If the prophecies are true, then everything else the Bible says is true.
Start with the book of John, read the whole thing, a chapter a day. As you read, ask the God you don't believe, pray with a sincere heart: "Jesus, if you are real, help me to know You."
What do you have to lose? If He doesn't exist or you are not sincere in your praying, you won't know the difference.
I like that story in their Book of fables about the old man taking his two daughters into a cave and having sex with them to have children. Isn't that just marvelous. Let's make a movie of that staring "Charlaton Hesston", "Michelle Backman" and "Sarah IMpailin"
SOMEONE THAT GETS IT!!!!!! WE ARE ALL HUMEN WE ALL HAVE BASIC RIGHTS AS HUMENBEINGS SUPPORT YOUR FELLOW HUMENBEINGS BECAUSE THERE"S A FORCE OUT THERE THAT WANTS TO DESTROY US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!
You aren't comprehending my point. I completely agree that it is "their" right to assemble peacefully and pray, sing, sway, jump around, lie down, whatever. Absolutely constitutional, and I am 100% in favor of it. However, in doing so in this instance they are also 100% in opposition to the most basic tenets of Christianity by combining their politics with their religion. Jesus wasn't a Republican. In fact, the main thing that got him killed was his opposition to the incestuous relationship between the politics and religion of his time. People seem to forget that. Any clearer now?
We as a people need to stand againest opresion. Ask youself this who are the one's that are doing this to all people? Who is spreading the lie's the word of hate, againest all the people of the world look back at history take a step out of the goverment box and the teachings that the goverment has told you to beleive. We have minds use your mind to seek the truth its is out there waiting on you to embrace it.
You go and organize your group to pray its your right as an American its also the peoples right down in Texas do it. This is not about a religen its about the rights as a free people to to gather as long as no one gets hurt peacful assembly its ok under ower constition.
They are just doing what they have a right to do under the constition everybody has the right to peaceful assembly.
Its there right just like its is your right to hold a prayer meeting and pray for whatever
Talk about being bigot boy what hate you have in your heart. I did not say anything about gay marriage it will be up to you defend that. I do not wish death on you because of the way you beleive, I will defend you and your consitutionl right to free speech to my death if I have to again this is my duty AS A AMERICAN PATRIOT!!!
This is my right to offend you as it is yours to offend me we are protected by the same constition.
I'm sorry about telling the truth but its better than the lie's that are being told about the bible.Its also about our constitionle rights to be happy and be free to pick the life styles that make us happy no matter what sex we want lay to in bed with this is America. And as a rightwing Beleiver my job is not to judge gays and lesbens my job is to pray for them and I do none stop. I love all mankind. It is up to God to judge not man.
As a American Patriot its my job to protect and fight against those that would harm or oppress all that have the God given rights inclueding gays and lesbons right to free speech I will protect them wih same viger as any other American as I do the people down in Texas its my duty as a American.
Spelling they say its learning disabily My education stands as sound as anyones mostly school of hard knoxs graduaterd with honers. LOL
The big mouths who endlessly whine about "intolerance" and "bigotry" spew their own venomous intolerance and bigotry against those who have opposing veiwpoints and beliefs!
What then do you expect from self-described descendents of baboons?
PROFILE: The Outlandish Beliefs Of Rick Perry’s Prayer Rally Endorsers
Oprah is a sign of the Apocalypse: In his channel on GOD TV, Mike Bickle called Oprah a “forerunner to the harlot movement.” Bickle also warned that traditional “marriage will be…defiled” as the “gay marriage agenda, which is rooted in the depths of Hell,” progresses.
– Blackbirds are dying because of gay soldiers: Dr. Cindy Jacobs recorded a video declaring a connection between the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and the sudden death of blackbirds in Beebee, Arkansas as a divine punishment. She also called “girl-on-girl kissing” a “plague on society” and asked divine forgiveness for the violation of a woman’s “natural use.”
– The Statue of Liberty is a “demonic idol”: In various sermons, John Benefiel called the Statue of Liberty a “demonic idol.” He also expressed a belief that homosexuality is a plot contrived by the Illuminati “to limit the world population.”
– Hurricane Katrina was divine retribution for the city’s “sin”: John Hagee said residents of New Orleans were at fault for Hurricane Katrina: “I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that.” Hagee has also insinuated that “the Holocaust…was the fault of Jews themselves” and Hitler acted as a “hunter” corralling the Jews into Israel.
http://thinkprogress.org/polit...
The bible, you religeous asshole, was not written down until 840 years ago by a monk named Martin Luther, as a the collection of stories passed down from person to person. And you know every time a story is told, it's changed somewhat by the person telling it. Then about 300 years ago it was printed for the first time by a guy named Gutteburg. All religeon is nothing but the world's oldest con and used by the powerful as a tool against the ignorant as fear. Just about everything in that book of lies, myths and fairytales has been disproved to the intelligent person. Just think back the time of the crusades. The "christians" were raping, pillaging, plundering and killing all those who disagreed with them in the name of god. When a human cannot find the answer to a question, they always have the old " It's Gods Design!" to fall back on like "where did the sun come from? " God put it there because it's in the book of lies, myths and faireytales you call the bible. I have nothing against the Gay and Lesbian community and straight. What I DO have a problem with is all you moronic bible thumpers trying to push your tired and lame ignorance off as something a rational, intelligent person came up with instead you just thinking what yo're told to think by some arrogant biblethumping asshole. Because I hate snow and I ride several Harleys, I made the mistake of moving to Texas when I retired from the K.C.K.F.D.! You people seem to practice non-selective inbreeding down here.
Praying is a lot like masturbation, both are weird when done is public; in fact many people deny doing it at all. However, both are perfectly acceptable when done at home.
Perry's last prayer session for rain got us in the worst drought and heat wave known! Please don't pray for anything that will affect me and the state. I can't imagine what more harm they can do that has already been done by these sheepish followers.
While reading through the comments trying desperately to find intellectual discourse, I find myself wondering what on earth!?!?!? I am curious to know why it is ok for gays/gay rights supporters to attack and debase another human being for being illiterate while spouting that it is not ok for another group to attack and debase other human beings for being gay. Hello, Pot, this is kettle calling.... I happen to support whole-heartedly gay rights, it pisses me off that people are treated as though they are not quite human enough to have equal rights. What I do not support is ANY person of ANY belief lambasting another HUMAN being for their faults as well. It is NOT ok to treat people in the manner which you are opposing for anyone else.
guys.... this is someone baiting us... i don't think this is legit!!! however???????????
No one is against prayer. Duh. We're against the group that is sponsoring this call to prayer, a group that has said incredibly hateful and demonstrably false things about Muslims, gays, and other folks. As a Christian, I'm offended by their misusing the gospel to promote hate speech against groups they want to suppress.
Surely this is satire. Otherwise, you just made this way too easy. Your opinion matches your level of education.
*illegal
*an opinion (not "a oppion")
*that's
*government
Question mark should follow government, and the next sentence begin with a capitalized letter
*it's
*gays
*lesbians
*married?
*Sounds
*Holy
*they don't
*believe
...Oh, never mind.
Surely this is satire. Otherwise, you just made this way to easy.
*illegal
*an opinion (not "a oppion")
*that's
*government
Question mark should follow government, and the next sentence begin with a capitalized letter
*it's
*gays
*lesbians
*married?
*Sounds
*Holy
*they don't
*believe
...Oh, never mind.
Don't anyone think about organizing a prayer day! See what happens to someone these dorks don't like. First time I ever saw a group of dipshits stand up and find a sinister side to prayer!
Jeff, instead of going to church and reading the Holly Bible, perhaps you should go to school and learn how to spell. with this letter, I doubt that you can even read the bible and understand the big words!
It is fine to pray for our nation. I would be willing to bet that they will have a collection that will then be given to the politicians or the GOP which really violates separation of church and state.
Here's the info page for the picket of the Perry/AFA prayer/hate event: http://www.facebook.com/event.... There will also be anti-Perry/AFA prayer/hate event rallies in Austin and in Dallas.
If the argument here is that these folks want gays dead, and are therefore dangerous, then don't you hurt your own argument by wanting bigots dead? Not much tolerence displayed there. Just an observation from an innocent bystander...
Can I meet this Holly Bible chick? I hear these 'rightwing' chicks are pretty easy so... ya know.
jeff-you uneducated bigot-the bible actually doesnt say anything about gay marriage-such an imbecile-please die off
It never ceases to amaze me how many people can't comprehend the difference between 'prayer is creepy' and 'this prayer meeting is creepy.'
I gotta agree with Zeemanb on this one. I'm pretty sure that Jesus guy had something negative to say about public prayer. "But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
I am deeply offended by your poor spelling and grammar. You do your cause a great injustice by fulfilling the right-wing, evangelical christian stereotype. Here is your spelling list for the week; Illegal, Country, Opinion, Government, Lesbians, Married, Believe, Holy, Abomination and Rewrite. As I said, your spelling is offensive.
Prayer's not creepy. The people who have lined up behind this particular event are.
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