Jim Stanley, 57, says he went to the concert with his wife, his 14-year-old son and his 80-plus-year-old in-laws. Stanley says opening act Red Guitar was playing so loud that he had cotton stuffed in his ears. He wasn't sure how much more his octogenarian relatives could stand.
"Two songs in, it was actually making my spine shake," Stanley says.
Stanley claims that he was talking with his wife about whether it was worth staying when a security guard told them that they couldn't talk where they were standing. Stanley claims that the bullying escalated from there.
Stanley had trouble hearing the bouncer, who told him again that he and his party had to move. Stanley asked where they could talk. The bouncer pointed in the direction of some downtown skyscrapers. Stanley says he had no idea where the bouncer was pointing and asked again where he could talk with his wife.
"Do I have to show you where it is?" the bouncer asked.
"OK," Stanley replied, frustrated and angry. He says the security guard walked like he was "hot stuff." So Stanley, who stands 5 feet 4 inches, expressed his anger by imitating the way the guard walked.
"Less than 10 seconds of walking like that, there were at least two people who pushed me up against a fence and handcuffed me," Stanley says.
He says the cuffs weren't on his wrists but on his hands near his knuckles. He claims that they were too tight. He says he was put in a holding cell for about 20 minutes.
"When they found out that I wasn't drunk and I wasn't on drugs and I don't have any mental-health issues, I was just standing up for myself, they let me go," Stanley says. "They said I was trespassing, so they walked me out. I met my family where our car was."
Stanley says he spent Saturday icing his hand. Monday, he started calling Crown Center's security office.
"I don't want any money," he says. "I don't even want an apology. But I think you folks could learn something from what happened to me and teach these folks something. The next time that this happens, someone could be really, seriously hurt."
Crown Center security didn't return a call from The Pitch seeking comment.
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Good Bye Chris McGinnis, 25 years down the drain, Robert, he nodded off, Big Fuckin Deal, you had to justify your job and flex for Gary Hill, your friend Charles did this, look what happened to him, one day you will be next! Robert, just to keep your job,?how about a write up or suspension, but a termination. You deserved to be mentioned for what you did to Chris.
Victor snitched on Chris for nodding off, got him terminated after 25 dedicated years of service, Victor you are a Pussy! I hope Chris has his day with you, you coward.
Kansas City, this IS Crown Center Security, to the Pitch hope next time they deserve attention as this, you continue to give it to them
Jeff Samuelson # 365 from the keyroom is the Officer that was not named in this article, he needed to so people would know, Kepp up the great work Pitch!
Kessinger Hunter and Crown Center Security are two of the worst organizations in KC! After treating so many good employees the way they have over the past few years, serves them right that they are getting this type of attention, in life, what goes around, alway's comes around, you folks deserve this!
You have a lot of managers and supervisors at Crown Center Security that are not competent enough to get a job anywhere else. It is suprising how all of a sudden they have grown BALLS since the cinama shut down. When the kids were running the Crown Center shopping area, I swear too god that ALL of the ones still employed would not say a peep to the kids because they were scared to death. Block this C.J. Janovy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Hi everyone it is your favorite Crown Center Security Officer Ray Robbins, it has been awhile since I have been on here. Most of you are right, our director Robert has poor judgement in hiring officers, most of the guys are worthless, I will put myself in the same category, I just care about hitting on the women in the shops. Some of our supervisors are the same way, we have one that is over weight and one that is short. Please call 816-274-8488 ask for Robert or send letters and request that we all lose our jobs, ask Kessinger/Hunter to bring back some of the former officer who know how to run security.
Starlight's security is just as bad. won't ever go to a show there again, after the way I was treated at the Arcade Fire show
How does Crown Center Redevelopment stand for this? This must be embarrassing to that facility, from what I've heard this isn't the first time Crown Center Security has been in the press or local media, I do remember the issue they had with one of there Officers being a peeping tom, that was earlier this year, sounds like some major house cleaning needs to be done! Sounds rather disturbing!
Interesting.....the mayor's son can be an idiot and nothing happens to him..... hmmmm!!!
You gotta watch that Crown Center Security, they have a terrible rep in town, I had a friend that worked for them a very long time, he used to tell me about the way that Kessinger Hunter outfit that ran that operation, how they were terrible to their employees. Jim Stanley, archive Crown Center Security in the Pitch as that one post prior to mine suggests, they are indeed in here. You are a lawyer, track down some of the former Officers and staff, I'm sure they will colaborate your experience with this group, Mr. Stanley good luck, yea, but please stand up to them, from what i've heard repeatedly, they are bad news!
Wow! Crown Center Security is becoming a regular in the Pitch, remember the Ted Knox article earllier this year, you can archive them as well, May 2008, just type in "Hallmark". What's the deal Crown Center?
It surprises me how badly people can write their own language. Spelling family wrong, grammar mistakes in every sentence, capitalization on every word? I know this is just a 'comments' section and it isn't anything to gripe about - but wow.
Ok, where do I start? Well someone who spent a year and a half with Crown Center Security and a total of 17 years in the field I hope I can shed a little light on this. Crown Center had a very tough hiring practice. Three interviews, a very complex physical, and a 4 to 5 hour psychological evaluation when I was hired in 2005 and some of the best and most intense training i have had in years. Since I left they have changed the whole management department. When i was there, there was a big problem with the movie theater and teens. My outlook is they are still working the events as if everyone was a teen and they have lowered there hiring standards. Now you have young, unexpierenced Officers trying to run the events like back in the day of the movie theater. No excuse for what happened, but in my expierence there, its managment that they are following directions from trying to keep certain areas free from clutter do to incidents in the past. As far as false imprisonment, it comes down to being able to prove he was not told to leave before being detained for tresspass. Any judge would throw this out just for the fact is was a concert and the victim only has to say that he could not hear any of the Officers directions.
I Had A Sort Of The Same Problem At Clint Black Show Taking Pictures ,I Deleted Alot Of Them Because Of Blurry Pictures From One The Security Guards Would Come Up Behind Me Over My Shoulder Telling Me To Hurry Up Move Right When I Took The Picture !! They Were Doing That To Everybody That Would Try Take A Picture !!
been to crown center a couple of times in the past-- seems the guards like to pick on and puff up on older folks while the younger crowd seems to raise hell and the guards seem scared to approach them? Where do they get these sloppy ass goons they call guards at anyway? Do they just rent them off the street for these events ?-- Surely they are not full time employees ? If so I would steer clear of that place like my familey and friends did a few years back- just don't seem safe with the staff they hire.
Didnt the Pitch do a story not to long ago about some sex pervert the had working in the guard department ? Some ex cop peeper? and they hired him anyway cause he was a buddy with the guard manager ?
im going to take a wild stab in the dark and guess that this guy has ever been to a concert that didnt involve ushers, assigned seating, and intermissions. rock concerts don't work like that. they are loud sweaty your squeezed in with a bunch of sweaty loud hyped up people. and the bouncers will not bat an eyelash at making your experience terrible if you give them reason to. the best etiquette to fallow if if you can manage to shove your way into a good spot hold onto it for dear life and try not to attract any unneeded attention from the bouncers.
not that im suggesting even for a moment that five for fighting is "real rock" but from this article i surmise that it was just a guy who though he was bringing his family to a nice relaxed concert, and had no idea what he was singing up for,let along how to properly navigate a rock concert.
his own fault
It is worth it to stand up against these private security firms. They are usually not even from our city. I say unlawful imprisonment.
I agree 100% with Felix. If you don't want to sue for yourself, sue for the rest of us (even those of us, like me, who would never set foot in Crown Center)!
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