Monday, August 29, 2011

Dead people still not voting in Kansas

Posted by Ben Palosaari on Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Dead people arent showing up to the polls in Sedgwick County
  • Dead people aren't showing up to the polls in Sedgwick County
Sedgwick County doesn't have dead voters, Bill Gale, the county's elections commissioner, says. Seriously, it's not happening. The Wichita Eagle reports that Gale recently did a thorough examination of the county's voting rolls, looking for evidence of voter fraud and of dead people still casting votes. And what he found was that while some dead people were still listed on the rolls, none of the dead folks were voting.

From the Eagle:

Gale recently cross-checked Sedgwick County voters with the Social Security Death Index, national obituary websites and other sources. Then his office deleted 141 on the voter rolls identified as deceased, including at least one who died a decade ago.

Gale said none of those people had cast votes in elections since their deaths. There was one person who appeared to have voted from the grave, so Gale sicced his staff on the old voting records to figure out what happened. And it wasn't very scandalous. The paper reports:

Gale's office found only one case where someone appeared to have cast a ballot after their recorded date of death. But when workers dug out the polling books from the county courthouse archives, they found someone had handwritten "deceased" in the signature field. Gale thinks the voter's spouse likely noticed the deceased person's name on the list and wrote that to notify election officials.

Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who advocates for stricter voting rules and has claimed in the past that dead voters were a serious problem, issued a measured response to the news. "Every deceased voter that remains on Kansas' voter rolls creates the risk of a fraudulent vote being cast," he said in a statement released to the paper.

Kobach once held a press conference to announce that he had discovered a dead man voting. The man was later found alive and raking leaves in the front yard of his Sedgwick County home.

Gale also combined 66 duplicate listings in the rolls. He said they were likely the result of people re-registering under a slightly different name.


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Gee, damn those dead people for not contacting the registrar and having their names removed from the voting rolls.

@byrdbuster - People that don't drive or own a car oddly enough frequently don't feel the need to get a driver's license. If you have to depend on public transportation (a joke in the Midwest), a taxi, or depend on others for a ride, just the process of getting a photo ID is a pretty damned big inconvenience. Add to it that these people are also far more likely to be living on fixed incomes or have limited means, and now you've added insult to injury - last time I checked, the state doesn't give away photo IDs.

How about instead of adding ridiculous requirements and added burden to the voters to eliminate a problem that's basically non-existent, maybe instead the registrar's offices should be funded well enough to do what they just did - review the voter rolls for irregularities and remove names where needed.

Oh, and david? If your paragraph is an example of what we can expect to get from people who run for office, I think I'm far more worried about who we're electing than who is voting.

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Posted by JustMyWords on 08/30/2011 at 9:35 AM

How does requiring a Photo Id create a burden on disabled and elderly voters?

That is just plain nonsense.

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Posted by byrdbuster on 08/29/2011 at 1:06 PM

So ... what county do you live in David?

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Posted by lois on 08/29/2011 at 1:06 PM

David-Not be the grammar police, but I just flashed back to when I read Bob Dylan's book, "Tarantula".

Concerned-How in the hell is making sure the dead don't vote a "curtailing of voting rights by the repubs"?

And for the record, I am a staunch independent.

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Posted by Wink Dinklemeyer on 08/29/2011 at 12:36 PM

I just wanted to let you know that my grandfather who passed away in june 1976 had voted from the grave as an absentee democratic voter in every state wide and national election until 2000 my grandmother his wife passed away in 1986 and she had also voted from the grave as an absentee voter also she was a republican voter from 1980 so both sides are equally guilty and how did i find out that they both voted well I ran for the state house in 1990 another person i know who ran for the state house in the district that he was running in and that they lived in received the voting registrar from the state of all voters in his district and he called me and asked me what my grandparents names were and i told him and he asked me if they were still alive and i told him when they both passed away. He told me then i had to see it my self that they have been voting in every election because the state actually keeps track of each voter and how they vote i went to the election office and had their names removed from the polls for the 2000 general election and what do you know they actually had already requested absentee ballots so we tracked the addresses down the people who requested the absentee ballots used their former addresses to get the ballots in the mail yes they actually did and those people were busted so yes people still vote from the grave and I hope that problem will be resolved permanently and oh by the way in 2004 and 2008 and 2010 the same people tried to get absentee ballots for both my grandparents to vote from the grave so it does happen

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Posted by david on 08/29/2011 at 11:55 AM

This is part of a GOP effort in a number of states to curtail voting rights. This goes along with requiring photo ID's which, in some instances, puts a burden on disabled and elderly voters. They're trying to create an issue where none exists.

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Posted by Concerned on 08/29/2011 at 11:43 AM
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